Jerry Lewis: The Total Film-Maker

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do you own a copy, strongo?

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Would buy Coleman Francis: The Total Film-Maker for a dollar.

ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

i own all the coleman francis movies, morbs. come on now.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

including the supressed directors cut of the the skydivers.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

The Day The Curly Killed

da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

francis/truffaut

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Well, anyway, the man's a stone cold genius. I prefer him to Chaplin, Keaton, Tati, who else ya got? At least seven of these are masterpieces but The Ladies Man stands as quite possibly the greatest film comedy of all-time. I grovel before him while dreaming of a 12-DVD box set of his greatest (which, as always with Jerry, also means his grossest) telethon moments.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Red Zone Nutty

ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

I prefer him to Chaplin, Keaton, Tati, who else ya got?

we part company here

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say. a lol is a lol but.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

preferring Lewis to Keaton is like preferring Blackmore's Night to Deep Purple

frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

preferring lewis to chaplin is like preferring getting punched in the nuts to eating a pizza

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

hahahaha

frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

site for jerry lewis fans: http://www.ballbustingtube.com/

don't click that btw.

frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

oh now you knew i was going to click on that

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

all the "I cannot tell a lie" GIS results had some extraneous bullshit :(

frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

jerry lewis chopped down the cherry tree with his big fucking dick

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

i don't even know what i'm talking about now. i'm so tired.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Oh pish posh. He exploited the potential of cinema much more than either Chaplin or Keaton (both of whom, yes, exploited it exceedingly well and have many masterpieces under their belts). Tati may have surpassed Lewis on that level but he lacks Lewis' grotesque personality which is essential to his life-affirming effect. I'm reminded of something Richard Barrios's disdain for Al Jolson (a key Lewis progenitor) in The Singing Fool: "Charisma, when applied this relentlessly, becomes oppressive." But yo, Richard, that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths. If I wanted an even-keeled experience, I'd knock on my neighbor's door and ask to borrow some sugar.

P.S. Pizza is stupid and boring.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

delete "something"

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

You don't strike me as the type that needs more sugar.

ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

I certainly don't need fuckin' pizza.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Bozelka, OTM itt.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

Rosenbaum:

Why are the French so crazy about Jerry Lewis? Well, for one thing, some of them see him as being very much like America: infantile, hysterical, uncontrolled, giddy, uninhibited, tacky, energetic, inarticulate, obnoxious, sentimental, overbearing, socially and sexually maladjusted, and all over the place. (By contrast, at least on the surface, Allen is adolescent, neurotic, controlled, whiny, inhibited, preppy, lethargic, articulate, cynical, wormy, socially and sexually maladjusted, and confined.) It’s not so much a matter of necessarily loving all these qualities as it is envying or admiring or identifying with some of them, and being horrified by others — a sort of compressed model of the love-hate that many French people feel toward America as a fantasy object. I suspect that what many French people experience as the overcultivated constraints of their culture finds a welcome release in Lewis’s explosiveness and ungainliness, and their taste for freewheeling fantasy is partially met by Lewis’s remoteness from realism — the sheer wildness of his ideas as a writer-director, and the deconstructive habits such as the vulgar modernism that he shares with Mel Brooks, which periodically reminds us in various self-referential ways that we’re watching a film. (At one point in the mid-1960s, Godard described Lewis as “the only free man working in Hollywood.”)

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

This is probably racist.
dongmaster2 4 months ago

buzza, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

I seriously can't watch more than a minute or two of Jerry Lewis before my flesh starts to crawl. He's like the uncanny valley of human behavior.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

dongmaster2 otm

☂ (max), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

dongmaster2 least favorite installment of the dongmaster cycle

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 29 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, bud.

third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link

judd apatow option doomed/saved this from the git-go

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

plus that photo choice

you call it trollin' i call it steamrollin' (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

On fat ladies trying to lost weight: "Who cares?"

third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Monday, 1 August 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

lose

third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Monday, 1 August 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

I am going to miss Jerry's effortless pomposity about showbiz when he's gone; he may be the best ever at it. "I don't allow people in my family to use the term 'TV'" vs there's nothing good on. Real Sammy Maudlin stuff!

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=141o_jwG7cA

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

oh, that Berle story. I was waiting for "And then Gracie Allen picked up a fork..."

Is it possible that MDA got tired of the chairman boasting about his cocksmanship in print, at his unseemly age?

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like I watch his movies and I don't understand them

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 August 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

They are personal and idiosyncratic for sure. I wish I didn't understand Apatow's.

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

Jerry live in NYC (w/ a documentary too) on his 86th birthday:

http://www.92y.org/tickets/production.aspx?pid=81040

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Man, I wish I could go to that. But I'm glad I got to see him live once, in Damn Yankees. He killed.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah, esp when he went offscript or did 10 minutes of his Vegas act in the middle of his big song.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

moderator: Richard Belzer

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

so, here's what happened. Coulda called it The Old Man and the Shpritz.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2012/03/the-indelicate-delinquent-in-manic-winter-an-evening-with-jerry-lewis/

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Little wonder that, in a star-studded video of birthday wishes played near the tribute's end, '50s kids Werner Herzog (wishing Lewis a future "saturated with life") and Lou Reed materialized.

!!!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for posting, Morbs. What a wonderful tribute. Wish I could've been there.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

anybody recall seeing Jerry in "Wiseguy" (the Ken Wahl tv show)?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 September 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link

Yep he was great, and even squeezed in "Very good, one in a row!"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 September 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

would've been 94 today, and I bet he's glad he's not here

have Dean & Jerry in Pardners in the house, might watch that later

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

"You should only get COVID! I hope you get COVID."

https://assets.mubi.com/images/notebook/post_images/24936/images-w1400.jpg

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

<3

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link

Pardners is unusual in that Dean Martin gets to be funny for a few bits, almost unique in their movies (vs clubs and TV). He also seems like he's auditioning for his solo career.

Agnes Moorehead (v briefly) plays Jerry's WIFE and MOTHER! JL and Dean have dual roles.

They also address the audience directly at the end to tamp down breakup rumors (utterly misleading).

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.thenationalnews.com/arts-culture/2024/01/05/jerry-lewis/

Were any ILXorz besides Morbius waiting for the donor restrictions on The Day the Clown Cried to expire? Rob Stone (LOC) on Facebook has been WTF? about this article, and as of now there are no plans for an open-to-the-public screening at LOC's Culpeper location.

Another LOC employee told me that starting at some point in 2024, the TDtCC material will be viewable by appointment at LOC premises in DC. If anyone is coming to DC to see this let me know.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 16:53 (three months ago) link

I mean, I've been hoping to see it in my lifetime, yes

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link

BTW, I know I fired this poll off in extreme bad faith against ILX, but zero votes for The Patsy is abominable

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:22 (three months ago) link

I think all of the 1960-1964 films are great in slightly different ways so The Patsy just kind of gets lost in the vote splitting among them.

Josefa, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:49 (three months ago) link

True, tho I'd extend the streak to at least Three on a Couch

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:51 (three months ago) link

(If there's a weak one in there, it's The Family Jewels)

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:52 (three months ago) link

I think i slightly prefer The Family Jewels to Three on a Couch but I can definitely see how after 1964 it gets a bit more subjective. I actually kind of like The Big Mouth too but I’m not gonna run around recommending it.

Josefa, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

Same with me with Hardly Working and Cracking Up

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:18 (three months ago) link

I was skimming around this thread and came across this, proffered seriously from an ilxor back in 2011:

that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths.

Uh, no. That's a load of bollocks wrapped in high-flown rhetoric, trying to sound profound

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:21 (three months ago) link

Hardly Working is weirdly hard to see. I’ve only seen bits of it on TV and would like to see the whole thing, especially because it was filmed in the area I grew up in.

Josefa, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:23 (three months ago) link

xp KJB does have his blind spots, but he knows more about movies than any current member of ILX in my book

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:28 (three months ago) link

OK, "as much"

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:28 (three months ago) link

I like KJB's post even if I think saying Lewis is greater than Tati is utter madness

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:22 (three months ago) link

We disagree on good Joan Crawford movies.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:34 (three months ago) link

otoh I introduced him to the negroni and that's all we drink when I visit him.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:34 (three months ago) link

Cold water continues to be thrown on the idea that there exists a complete print of TDTCC.

There seems to be a lot of buzz about that article on the unreleased Jerry Lewis film THE DAY THE CLOWN CRIED saying it's finally been screened, don't believe it! For what I heard all the LOC has is 13 cans (about 90') of unedited camera rushes without sound, that's all! Also: pic.twitter.com/umoxq6Yi9H

— Jon W. (@rarefilmm) January 8, 2024

Chris L, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:42 (three months ago) link

So we're saying Harry Shearer is a liar?

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:44 (three months ago) link

Jolly "Fats" Weehawken Airlines is till an in-joke in my family

Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:45 (three months ago) link

xp Yes. At the very least he exaggerated how much of it he saw.

Chris L, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link

that's what Lewis said: ""Harry Shearer is a liar. And I hate to say that but it's true. No one has ever seen that film except me, and I know because I have the only print of it." I can't find the orig. source for that but I followed the story when he said it, sometime early 00s I think. I think Lewis had a rough cut that he assembled when they had to cut production and leave Sweden. I think Shearer probably saw something like this. But I don't think there's an opening-to-closing-credits print in existence.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:56 (three months ago) link

"Zack Snyder--Do your stuff!"

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 22:10 (three months ago) link

xp except Lewis didn’t have a “print” of it?

bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 23:01 (three months ago) link


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