If mods want to delete this one, I'm cool.
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
we'll let dr. morbius decide.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
one is obviously for his best directorial effort, the other his acting. considering his skill at both, i think both threads are valid.
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
"skill"
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Seriously? Hating on Jerry is still a thing?
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
I've been a huge fan in the past and remain so currently, but recent re-watches have made me feel he's the directorial equivalent of asperger's. I could easily see myself falling out of love with this director.
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Wait. How did two Jerry Lewis polls happen on the same day? He's not dead, is he??
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Departed thread got off track
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
No, just a Morbs-related clusterfuck in The Departed thread.
(x-post)
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
i have to give it to eric though because "the total film-maker" has made me lol every time i've looked at it.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
not sure what you mean by that. would that make tati full-on autistic ?
― dell (del), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
Paul Sorvino: The Total Film-Maker
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
Coleman Francis: The Total Film-Maker
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
do you own a copy, strongo?
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Would buy Coleman Francis: The Total Film-Maker for a dollar.
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
i own all the coleman francis movies, morbs. come on now.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
including the supressed directors cut of the the skydivers.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
The Day The Curly Killed
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
francis/truffaut
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Well, anyway, the man's a stone cold genius. I prefer him to Chaplin, Keaton, Tati, who else ya got? At least seven of these are masterpieces but The Ladies Man stands as quite possibly the greatest film comedy of all-time. I grovel before him while dreaming of a 12-DVD box set of his greatest (which, as always with Jerry, also means his grossest) telethon moments.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Red Zone Nutty
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
I prefer him to Chaplin, Keaton, Tati, who else ya got?
we part company here
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i was gonna say. a lol is a lol but.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
preferring Lewis to Keaton is like preferring Blackmore's Night to Deep Purple
― frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
preferring lewis to chaplin is like preferring getting punched in the nuts to eating a pizza
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
hahahaha
― frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
site for jerry lewis fans: http://www.ballbustingtube.com/
don't click that btw.
― frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
oh now you knew i was going to click on that
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
all the "I cannot tell a lie" GIS results had some extraneous bullshit :(
― frog in a bs place (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
jerry lewis chopped down the cherry tree with his big fucking dick
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
i don't even know what i'm talking about now. i'm so tired.
Oh pish posh. He exploited the potential of cinema much more than either Chaplin or Keaton (both of whom, yes, exploited it exceedingly well and have many masterpieces under their belts). Tati may have surpassed Lewis on that level but he lacks Lewis' grotesque personality which is essential to his life-affirming effect. I'm reminded of something Richard Barrios's disdain for Al Jolson (a key Lewis progenitor) in The Singing Fool: "Charisma, when applied this relentlessly, becomes oppressive." But yo, Richard, that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths. If I wanted an even-keeled experience, I'd knock on my neighbor's door and ask to borrow some sugar.
P.S. Pizza is stupid and boring.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
delete "something"
You don't strike me as the type that needs more sugar.
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
I certainly don't need fuckin' pizza.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Bozelka, OTM itt.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
Rosenbaum:
Why are the French so crazy about Jerry Lewis? Well, for one thing, some of them see him as being very much like America: infantile, hysterical, uncontrolled, giddy, uninhibited, tacky, energetic, inarticulate, obnoxious, sentimental, overbearing, socially and sexually maladjusted, and all over the place. (By contrast, at least on the surface, Allen is adolescent, neurotic, controlled, whiny, inhibited, preppy, lethargic, articulate, cynical, wormy, socially and sexually maladjusted, and confined.) It’s not so much a matter of necessarily loving all these qualities as it is envying or admiring or identifying with some of them, and being horrified by others — a sort of compressed model of the love-hate that many French people feel toward America as a fantasy object. I suspect that what many French people experience as the overcultivated constraints of their culture finds a welcome release in Lewis’s explosiveness and ungainliness, and their taste for freewheeling fantasy is partially met by Lewis’s remoteness from realism — the sheer wildness of his ideas as a writer-director, and the deconstructive habits such as the vulgar modernism that he shares with Mel Brooks, which periodically reminds us in various self-referential ways that we’re watching a film. (At one point in the mid-1960s, Godard described Lewis as “the only free man working in Hollywood.”)
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRCsSrnz90s
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
This is probably racist.dongmaster2 4 months ago
― buzza, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
I seriously can't watch more than a minute or two of Jerry Lewis before my flesh starts to crawl. He's like the uncanny valley of human behavior.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
dongmaster2 otm
― ☂ (max), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
dongmaster2 least favorite installment of the dongmaster cycle
― brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 29 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks, bud.
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
judd apatow option doomed/saved this from the git-go
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
plus that photo choice
― you call it trollin' i call it steamrollin' (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 July 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/30/idUS77813458320110730
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Monday, 1 August 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
On fat ladies trying to lost weight: "Who cares?"
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Monday, 1 August 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
lose
i've only seen the episode of the Seinfeld Coffee series with Garry Shandling, but I'm going to have to catch the one in the new season with Lewis at some point. JL orders breakfast: “I’m gonna have three fried eggs up, and a large order of very very very stiff bacon.”
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
haha
That series is pretty hit-or-miss, but Jer will be reliably cantankerous and/or hilarious.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
The @believermag has made its archive available for free online, include probably the most essential essay on Jerry Lewis, B. Kite's 2-part "The Jerriad": https://t.co/EAds0EZRWx + https://t.co/NYteyav5Hg pic.twitter.com/vLZ13amGvH— Notebook (@NotebookMUBI) July 27, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
As good as writing on Lewis gets!
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
"I am THE dichotomy."
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
The Unknown Jerry: Home Moviesand More from the Jerry LewisCollection at the Library of Congress
https://www.moma.org/calendar/film/5019?locale=en
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
Maybe Jerry's last NYC public appearance, a Q&A after a screening of Max Rose in which he's by turns clownish, sentimental and testy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm9v8yFrQic
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
MoMA is currently showing, along with the home movies, The Nutty Professor storyboards
https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5020?locale=en
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
You must see Jerry's screen test of Sophie Tucker at some point.
also Milton Berle, for JL's sadism
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 October 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link
about those home movies...
Attempting to deliver a “Jewish Sunset Boulevard,” (itself helmed by German-Jewish émigré Billy Wilder and co-starring his countryman Erich von Stroheim), “Fairfax Avenue” boasts a sense of humor perhaps too overtly Jewish for Hollywood proper, with Tony Curtis playing a delicatessen delivery boy who finds himself acting as the factotum for an aging actress. Gamely played by Janet Leigh (Curtis’s wife at the time), the diva is a veteran of the Yiddish stage, known for her work at the Second Avenue Theatre and in the process of writing her memoirs for — who else? — the Jewish Daily Forward. The film boasts yet another unusually Jewish turn from a less-than-Semitic actor in the form of Dean Martin liberally peppering Yiddish into a musical number, smoothly crooning, “I can get it for you wholesale down on Fairfax Avenue.”
“The Re-inforcer” and “Fairfax Avenue” do show Lewis experimenting with the medium-specific formal humor that he would master with his later features. Both films trade on his signature self-reflexivity and overt artifice, wielding their own cheapness in the same manner that he later work would employ the nearly magical largesse of the studio system. “Fairfax Avenue” has a running bit in which Curtis leaves the frame by miming descending stairs where clearly none could exist. In “The Re-inforcer,” Lewis fashions an extended gag involving a flagrantly fake dummy, winning laughs by having the man-shaped-sack emit something resembling a Wilhelm scream. In the same film, Lewis uses the famed Kuleshov effect to set up a fake movie called “The Great Caruso” starring himself, framed from the neck up as an all-but-disembodied (and mustachioed) head, hammily lip syncing along to an operatic show-stopper.
Read more: https://forward.com/culture/411863/could-jerry-lewis-have-become-the-jewish-andy-warhol/
https://forward.com/culture/411863/could-jerry-lewis-have-become-the-jewish-andy-warhol/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
Let’s commemorate the birthday of Jerry Lewis with a celebration of Jerry Lewis Cinema - not his motion pictures but his actual theaters. They popped up everywhere in the early 70s and disappeared about 2 years later. Here are a lot of optimistic Grand Openings: pic.twitter.com/tvtG7hlEjv— Larry Karaszewski (@Karaszewski) March 16, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link
From tweet thread:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bysxs05IMAAXsG4.jpg
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
Alsao some interesting factoids from Glenn Kenny about what happened to some of those theatres.
I have an ad somewhere from an Esquire from when they were franchising.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link
anybody recall seeing Jerry in "Wiseguy" (the Ken Wahl tv show)?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 September 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link
Yep he was great, and even squeezed in "Very good, one in a row!"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 September 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link
would've been 94 today, and I bet he's glad he's not here
have Dean & Jerry in Pardners in the house, might watch that later
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
"You should only get COVID! I hope you get COVID."
https://assets.mubi.com/images/notebook/post_images/24936/images-w1400.jpg
― coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
<3
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
Pardners is unusual in that Dean Martin gets to be funny for a few bits, almost unique in their movies (vs clubs and TV). He also seems like he's auditioning for his solo career.
Agnes Moorehead (v briefly) plays Jerry's WIFE and MOTHER! JL and Dean have dual roles.
They also address the audience directly at the end to tamp down breakup rumors (utterly misleading).
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
https://www.thenationalnews.com/arts-culture/2024/01/05/jerry-lewis/
Were any ILXorz besides Morbius waiting for the donor restrictions on The Day the Clown Cried to expire? Rob Stone (LOC) on Facebook has been WTF? about this article, and as of now there are no plans for an open-to-the-public screening at LOC's Culpeper location.
Another LOC employee told me that starting at some point in 2024, the TDtCC material will be viewable by appointment at LOC premises in DC. If anyone is coming to DC to see this let me know.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 16:53 (four months ago) link
I mean, I've been hoping to see it in my lifetime, yes
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:06 (four months ago) link
BTW, I know I fired this poll off in extreme bad faith against ILX, but zero votes for The Patsy is abominable
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:22 (four months ago) link
I think all of the 1960-1964 films are great in slightly different ways so The Patsy just kind of gets lost in the vote splitting among them.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:49 (four months ago) link
True, tho I'd extend the streak to at least Three on a Couch
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:51 (four months ago) link
(If there's a weak one in there, it's The Family Jewels)
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:52 (four months ago) link
I think i slightly prefer The Family Jewels to Three on a Couch but I can definitely see how after 1964 it gets a bit more subjective. I actually kind of like The Big Mouth too but I’m not gonna run around recommending it.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:58 (four months ago) link
Same with me with Hardly Working and Cracking Up
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:18 (four months ago) link
I was skimming around this thread and came across this, proffered seriously from an ilxor back in 2011:
that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths.
Uh, no. That's a load of bollocks wrapped in high-flown rhetoric, trying to sound profound
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:21 (four months ago) link
Hardly Working is weirdly hard to see. I’ve only seen bits of it on TV and would like to see the whole thing, especially because it was filmed in the area I grew up in.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:23 (four months ago) link
xp KJB does have his blind spots, but he knows more about movies than any current member of ILX in my book
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:28 (four months ago) link
OK, "as much"
I like KJB's post even if I think saying Lewis is greater than Tati is utter madness
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:22 (four months ago) link
We disagree on good Joan Crawford movies.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:34 (four months ago) link
otoh I introduced him to the negroni and that's all we drink when I visit him.
Cold water continues to be thrown on the idea that there exists a complete print of TDTCC.
There seems to be a lot of buzz about that article on the unreleased Jerry Lewis film THE DAY THE CLOWN CRIED saying it's finally been screened, don't believe it! For what I heard all the LOC has is 13 cans (about 90') of unedited camera rushes without sound, that's all! Also: pic.twitter.com/umoxq6Yi9H— Jon W. (@rarefilmm) January 8, 2024
― Chris L, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:42 (four months ago) link
So we're saying Harry Shearer is a liar?
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:44 (four months ago) link
Jolly "Fats" Weehawken Airlines is till an in-joke in my family
― Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:45 (four months ago) link
xp Yes. At the very least he exaggerated how much of it he saw.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:46 (four months ago) link
that's what Lewis said: ""Harry Shearer is a liar. And I hate to say that but it's true. No one has ever seen that film except me, and I know because I have the only print of it." I can't find the orig. source for that but I followed the story when he said it, sometime early 00s I think. I think Lewis had a rough cut that he assembled when they had to cut production and leave Sweden. I think Shearer probably saw something like this. But I don't think there's an opening-to-closing-credits print in existence.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:56 (four months ago) link
"Zack Snyder--Do your stuff!"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 22:10 (four months ago) link
xp except Lewis didn’t have a “print” of it?
― bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 23:01 (four months ago) link