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More character scenes, which aren't bad or anything, but losing that cold open is a major bummer.

Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

You can get a HD version of the theater cut, but it's on HD-DVD.

So, it probably exists out on download sites.

mh, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

i keep meaning to read the first draft screenplay to see if there was ever meant to be more FBI stuff. the open is totally different to either version afaict.

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/miamivice.pdf

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

such mixed feelings on all mann's stuff exc. heat. opening of ali def. inspired. jamie foxx is a ridiculous actor.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 17 June 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

so i read the screenplay. it clearly wasn't final: there's a ~3 scene bit toward the end where it's just "a scene in which ..." and then placeholder description.

but anyway major differences from the director's cut (i missed this in the cinema):

isabella is afro cuban

nicholas has one line, delivered over the phone

yero has a speech where he tells this story about how pablo escobar used to execute his good pilots after six flights, and he is 3 times as good as escobar, so he will take out tubbs+crockett after two.

the fbi mole plot is even thinner: it's the same up to the bit where yero agrees to share intelligence and tells them to check their email, but in the screenplay the email never comes. i'm not sure that plot ever had an ending.

the final showdown is very different. isabella is already with crockett when they find out yero has trudy, and gives them advice (she runs the drugs in on the boats with them). the trailer doesn't get blown up after they get trudy back, no hospital scenes, totally different action set pieces in the cargo park or wherever it's supposed to be

no shot of montoya's back

caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

why are mann's director's cuts pretty much shittier than the theatrical cuts across the board?

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think he works better with whatever small constraints a theatrical cut imposes in that it cuts out the last 5% of the cruft that we really didn't need.

mh, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

there is an all regions UK Blu Ray release of the theatrical cut fwiw.

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

sweet! There seem to be a bunch of random stores on amazon that keep selling region-free UK copies of films. I think the version of Zodiac I have is actually the brit one.

mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

why are mann's director's cuts pretty much shittier than the theatrical cuts across the board?

If you're going to spend a mil or two shooting a speedboat race, you might as well put it somewhere if it doesn't make final cut.

caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

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Ha, yeah, just bought the UK bluray of Zodiac too. Apparently the 2 Disc American release is slightly better in quality but it's OOP and going for big bucks.

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

i got laughed at irl this weekend for saying that i really like this movie

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^i have been there

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

ppl are idiots

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just tell people it's going to be bad the first few times, and after that amazing.

caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like michael mann

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like Miami.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

well yeah that too

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

do you like....mojitos

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

whenever Sarge returns we take my catamaran to Havana to cool it with some mojitos.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

sounds like you're a fiend for them

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would like a mojito rn

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i got laughed at irl this weekend for saying that i really like this movie

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:04 (45 minutes ago) Permalink

fuckin' Philistines

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like michael mann

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:09 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf is wrong with people?

mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

first they came for the challopers and I said nothing

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is like the awkward party conversation where someone is like "I don't really like CSI or whatever tv show, but I like movie crime stuff" and I'm like "well, do you like 'Silence of the Lambs' and that type of thing because there was this movie by Michael Mann who starred the one dude from CSI and it's called Manhunter..." and then I get mocked about the fact there is a movie called Manhunter directed by Mann

mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

many you guys need to hit better parties

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

*man

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

story of my life

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

still easily the best action film i've ever seen. too nervous to watch it again in case in doesn't live up to what i remember.

is the Director's Cut worth a watch just for the boat chase bit? the 'cold' opening is so good i can't believe there's a version, any version that *doesn't* start that way.

piscesx, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are some good extra character scenes (more Trudy iirc) so it's worth seeing. But yeah I'd rather jettison all of that for the in media res club bit.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i love the boat race opening. it feels so expansive but cold (dunno if miami cold is like louisiana cold but kinda clammy and unnatural) and empty. the transition from that into the neon claustrophobia of the club is pretty awesome.

adam, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

love this fuckin movie

adam, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

many you guys need to hit better parties

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:48 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so sad because this happened at _my party_

mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Boat scene is cool, but there's a chunk of stale exposition on the shore afterwords setting up the club sting that kind of kills it for me.

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

so I like this movie now!

Colin Farrell's hair though = so so so gross. It's like he poured crude oil over it.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

It is so much fun to love this movie.

Eric H., Monday, 3 September 2012 13:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

and the film was a hit:

Miami Vice opened at No. 1 in the United States, knocking Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest out of the number one position at the box office that weekend, after Pirates led the box office for almost a full month.[20] In its opening weekend, the film grossed over $25.7 million at 3,021 theaters nationwide, with an average gross of $8,515 per theater.[21] The film would go on to earn $63.5 million domestically.[21] Miami Vice would fare better internationally. The films aired in 77 countries overseas, grossing $100,344,039 in its international run.[22] Overall the film grossed $164 million worldwide[21] helping to further surpass the reported $135 million budget.

The film stands as one of Michael Mann's top three most financially successful films, next to Heat and Collateral.[23]

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 13:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i remember going to see this opening weekend and being forced to sit on the stairs

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 September 2012 13:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

The story I've told before is that when I went to see this some weekend afternoon, it was bright and sunny when I went in, and when I went out everything was drenched, there were branches, leaves and other refuse strewn about everywhere, street lights were blinking yellow. It was like some hurricane hit outside in the middle of the movie. Very memorable.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

the UK bluray has the theatrical version?!?!?!?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Colin Farrell's hair though = so so so gross.

Zappa stache.

your damn bass clarinet (Eazy), Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hey, Jose Yero is starring (with Jimmy Smits) in a play at Steppenwolf, and I'm going to opening night next week. Will try to shake hands with Cochi Loco and will send him all your ILX love.

your damn bass clarinet (Eazy), Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes it does. The lack of that opening on the American Blu Ray is why I refuse to plop 7 bucks down for it.

Gukbe, Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

really stoked that it's available in some form though, region free blu ray players are cheap these days

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 December 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uk version is region free

mh, Sunday, 30 December 2012 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I gots it

mh, Sunday, 30 December 2012 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh snap

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 December 2012 06:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

good rec for a region free BD player?

乒乓, Sunday, 30 December 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink


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