"the greatest four-record run in rock history"

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"i think it shows that ILM needs to listen to more music!"

I have a small but persistently nagging suspicion that an infinitessimally small minority of ILM's collective girlfriends / boyfriends / partners / wifes / husbands might just disagree with you ever so slightly on a couple of extremely minor points of detail....

The rest of them would most definitely tell you that you're talking complete arse.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"didn't I Am Curious Orange come out before the Frenz Experiment?"

No. (And I like Frenz more anyway, personally!)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's a "good'un" that ain't been mentioned:

Twin Infinitives
Royal Trux
Cats and Dogs
Thank You

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

don't forget the four after that!

gear (gear), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Twitch
The Land Of Rape And Honey
The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
( damn. mediocre live album here :-( )
Psalm 69

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

any support for these 10 faultless albums, anyone?
Pure
Head
Goat
Liar
Lash
Down
Show
Shot
Blue
Bang

You've got a hell of a lot of support for Head through Down, at least

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"And the Genesis run should start at Duke."

The Genesis run of no less than 9 most excellent albums in a row ended with "Duke".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

nono, they totally improved once hagar came in

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link


It's my Life
Colour of Spring
Spirit of Eden
Laughing Stock

beat that progression?

theo, Friday, 28 October 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Soul Mining
Infected
Mind Bomb
Dusk

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link

shotgun willie
phases and stages
red headed stranger
the sound in your mind

transmissions from the satellite heart
clouds taste metallic
zaireeka
the soft bulletin

69 love songs
i

soul rebels
catch a fire
burnin'
natty dread

metfigga (metfigga), Monday, 31 October 2005 06:40 (eighteen years ago) link

abba 3-6 ,
duran 1-4,
erasure 2-5 ,
inxs 3-6,
def leppard 2-5
michael jackson 1-4
bon jovi 1-4 ( 2 albums before slippery when wet)

retrogurl, Monday, 31 October 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

tigermilk
if you're feeling sinister
the boy with the arab strap
lazy line painter jane 3ep set

Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 31 October 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

My flaming lips version would be:

In a priest driven ambulance
Hit to Death in the Future Head
Transmissions...
Clouds Taste Metallic

Can't say I've cared for much by them after CTM, but what a run...

My vote personally goes to Cheap Trick, though. If only for the fact that they made 4 almost flawless records and then did nothing but dreck from then on.

casey (t. fiend), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The Police's 5 albums are pretty good

Outlandos d'Amour
Reggatta de Blanc
Zenyatta Mondatta
Ghost in the Machine
Synchronicity

oh god did i say that

mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

the passage:
pindrop => for all and none => degenerates => enflame
(although i fear witts would cringe at his inclusion in a 'rock history' list...)

simple minds:
reel to real cacophony => empires & dance => sons & fascination => sister feelings call
(yes i am cheating by counting the last 'double' album as 2 single ones, but i think 'new gold dream' is overrated)

yello:
solid pleasure => claro que si => you gotta say yes => stella
(and 'one second' almost extends it to 5)

comsat angels:
waiting for a miracle => sleep no more => fiction => land
(i believe most other comsat fans think the 4th is naff, but i don't)


magazine:
would have been in here if the last album hadn't been a bit weak (and a live one would have got in the way anyway)

other hon. mentions -
cabs:
crackdown => microphonies => covenant => code

devo:
nearly make it - though with albums 2->5 or even 3->6 for me (i like their synthpop phase)

t.dream:
the phaedra => rubycon => ricochet sequence peters out with 'stratosfear' unfortunately...
(oops - creaky puns purely accidental)

the chameleons:
if they had released a 4th album in the 80's...


& Dr C is OTM ref. kraftwerk

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

time fades away
on the beach
tonights the night
zuma

i'd say
after the goldrush
harvest
time fades away
on the beach

is the better run.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Stepping in after the smoke is cleared to mutter, I'm surprised nobody argued for Dylan from Another Side to Blonde on Blonde rather than from Bringing It All Back Home to John Wesley Harding. Really it's a five-album run, I think. (Another Side may not be faultless, but I don't know that that's the criteria - it was the place the songwriting style that was in full bloom on BIABH sprouted, and as a move away from topicality.) And I also liked the suggestion of The Basement Tapes being counted if you follow the order of recording - which brings the run to six.

And on Tom Waits, no need to count One From the Heart or Night on Earth or Big Time, as they're all movie soundtrack albums rather than studio albums proper, and their faults have very much to do with that. So without them you get Heartattack & Vine > Swordfishtrombones > Raindogs > Frank's Wild Years > Bone Machine. Which is pretty damn amazing. You could go on and say that next came Mule Variations, but the many years' gap disqualifies it as part of any "run," I think.

And just a YES to The Modern Dance to Art of Walking.

carl w (carl w), Thursday, 3 November 2005 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Neil Young is tricky, because there's no question that OTB-Tonight-Zuma is an amazing streak, but I don't think Time Fades Away is all that (save for a couple songs) and Long May You Run definitely ain't that great.

Personally, I;d go with either the first four or American Stars n Bars, Comes a Time, Rust Never Sleeps, Hawks & Doves. Freedom, Ragged Glory, Harvest Moon, Sleeps with Angels is pretty groovy, too (doesn;t count the weird live records and comps released between).

But for all-time best four, it just doesn;t get any better than the Stones' run of Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile. Only thing even close is Beatles (Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, Magical Mystery).

Chris O., Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Al Green's
Gets Next to You
Let's Stay Together
I'm Still in Love with You
Call Me

pretty fair run.

James Brown's

Soul on Top
It's a New Day
Sex Machine
Super Bad

is a good run. and yeah I am leaving out his Christmas album "Hey America." well, who else calls a Christmas album "Hey America" and then includes a rap about how he's pissed off at his wife/girlfriend, and makes not-so-veiled threats toward her during it? if that's not great, then what is? But for my money, start JB almost anywhere around 1969 and you get four really interesting albums--better that than the Talking Heads, for chrissake.

Pere Ubu I would go for as well. possibly CCR. not Sly, though, since "Stand!" isn't totally great, and besides, what came after "Fresh"? Funkadelic is strong: Let's Take It to the Stage/Tales of Kidd/Hardcore Jollies/One Nation. I'm leaving out the best-ofs on Westbound. Prince didn't have four great ones in a row. Costello had one boring one (his first one), one great one, one kinda good one, then that Stax/Motown whisky-and-cocaine one, then the other great one, "Trust." didn't he go Nashville in there somewhere? and then he re-made the Beatles on "Imperial Boudoir." the Beatles, sure, Please/With/Hard Day's/For Sale, that's the run I'd choose, while others would say Rubber/Revolver/Pepper...whoops! Magical Mystery Tour, so that run is screwed. or Help!!...nope, that one I always thought was one of their worst.

I know plenty of people who could argue Neil Young. probably I have been in the same room when "Harvest" was playing, or that one which I do like, the album with "Cinnamon Girl." I do like "Cortez the Killer"--that's on "Zuma"? for that matter, Joni Mitchell if we're talking Neil Young. Melissa Manchester? Phoebe Snow? Dylan? Bringing It/Hwy. 61/Blonde/Nashville, is that how that goes?

anyway, I just wanted to put in my two cents--I honestly can't think of any four great rock albums in a row except for the Stones and maybe CCR and maybe Skynyrd, actually, when I think about them. but wasn't there one kind of dud in there, "Gimme Back My Bullets"? the Kinks? the only really great Kinks records are the Greatest HIts collection on Reprise, Face to Face and Something Else. I recently got as a gift the 3-disc Village Green reissue, and it put me to sleep. when it gets to "Phenomenal Cat," I just zone out. Arthur is lame, too. None of those British beat groups sustained four albums. The Move? the Hollies? Small Faces? Manfred Mann? Beefheart? Strictly Personal is no good, neither is Spotlight Kid except for one or two songs, and Clear Spot is fun but hardly great. except for maybe Doc at Radar Station and Safe as Milk, every single one of his records are deeply flawed, boring, misguided, something wrong with all of them.

so many of the people I really love, like George Jones or Haggard or Ray Charles or Gilberto Gil--they never made "four great albums in a row" that I know of. Chic didn't. and I mean, really, even Brown's Sex Machine has that dumb-ass version of "Spinning Wheel" on it. I guess I'm happy with all the imperfections of less-than-great albums all in a row.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 4 November 2005 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"except for maybe Doc at Radar Station and Safe as Milk, every single one of his records are deeply flawed, boring, misguided, something wrong with all of them."

Whoo, Lord.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

(Also, Magical Mystery Tour was an EP; we were talking about that upthread.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link

AC/DC

High Voltage
Dirty Deeds
Let there be rock
Powerage

Corkers the lot of 'em. But if push comes to shove the Stones still take it.

The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I would love to be able to say Kraftwerk, but to me their unstoppable records are Autobahn, Trans-Europe Express, Man-Machine and Computer World. Problem....Radio-Activity is in there. D'oh. They join the leagues of a number of other bands that have certainly HAD four of the greatest records in rock history, but just not in a row, see also REM, Paul McCartney, the aggressive attempts to make Magical Mystery Tour disappear, etc.....

I'm surprised nobody's said anything regarding Parliament. Mothership Connection, Dr. Funkenstein, Funkentelechy... you just have to pick Chocolate City vs. Motor Booty Affair as your bookend...

Sleater-Kinney is an excellent answer just in terms of, maybe none of the albums will ever enter the canon of Great Rock Records, but they all stand as testaments to the miraculous and rare feat of a working band being consistently VERY good and often great or excellent, certainly never bad. I do feel like All Hands isn't quite up there with what precedes it, but I still like it better than One Beat, so, whatever.

As far as Beck goes, my vote's for Odelay > Mutations > Midnite Vultures > Sea Change. Not only four EXCELLENT albums (much as my opinion on MV has waffled over the years), but covering a whole lot of different territory.

I wonder how much it's fair to not count SOME types of compilations. I mean, if a compilation collects a lot of non-album work from the same period as the surrounding albums, surely it fits in with what we're trying to get at here, the idea of bands being on a temporary creative high? If the Beatles had put out something like Past Masters 1.5 after Pepper, would that not have some relevance? For some reason, even though I don't think they qualify for thread anyway, I'm thinking about Modest Mouse's "Building Nothing Out of Something." Non-album stuff more or less contemporary with Lonesome Crowded West....

Oh hell, I'll go ahead and say it for the sake of hyping a contemporary band: Lonesome Crowded West > Building Nothing Out of Something > Moon & Antarctica > Everywhere & His Nasty Parlour Tricks.

How about Pussy Whipped > Reject All American > Julie Ruin > Le Tigre?

My for real, serious answer: The Ramones win Even with the bad slow numbers and the lame cover art on Leave Home. Those first four records manage to show a progression and yet feel like one continuous peak at the same time. Fabulous, and I really need to get my copies back...

Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 November 2005 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"except for maybe Doc at Radar Station and Safe as Milk, every single one of his records are deeply flawed, boring, misguided, something wrong with all of them."

"Whoo, Lord."

You were absolutely right to express surpise and alarm Tim; however we must always remember that in the final analysis it all comes down to a matter of personal taste, which of course is all entirely and intrinsically subjective, and we're all entitled to have our opinions.

Even Edd.

Even when he's so obviously and completely wrong.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha. I figured that'd get a rise outta Tim--about the Captain. I'm a fan, but I don't sit around and listen to those albums as a whole, not any of them except "Safe as Milk," sometimes. Not even "Doc," because sometimes "Sheriff of Hong Kong" drives me nuts; not even "Decals," because ditto those saxes on "Flash Gordon's Ape." And ditto "Candle Mambo" and "Love Lies" on "Shiny Beast," I hate those "songs." On the other hand, "Suction Prints" and "Owed T' Alex" are just brilliant.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"aggressive attempts to make Magical Mystery Tour disappear"

Haha. No, it was, really. A double seven inch. Capitol made it an album by putting all the recent single sides on the B-sides. It has stayed an album in their catalog only because this has remained an easy way for these single tracks to be available. (They would have overloaded Past Masters Volume 2.)

And again, The White Album came out only a year and a half after Sgt. Pepper. That's hardly a big gulf of time, particularly in terms of how we think of artists working nowadays.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"Capitol made it an album by putting all the recent single sides on the B-side (of the album)."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, actually, that the '68 era Magic Band could have been better represented than by Strictly Personal, by the way. And not just the phase shifting, either - I like the Mirror Man version of "Kandy Korn" better.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha. I figured that'd get a rise outta Tim--about the Captain. I'm a fan, but I don't sit around and listen to those albums as a whole, not any of them except "Safe as Milk," sometimes

OTM about Safe as Milk being the Captain's most consistent record. Trout Mask is really difficult for me to listen to straight-through nowadays, though I used to all the time when I was younger (and partook more of the jazz-cigareet). I actually think that Shiny Beast is pretty consistently listenable all the way through. I used to hate "Candle Mambo" and "Love Lies" too, but now I like them.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Not even "Doc," because sometimes "Sheriff of Hong Kong" drives me nuts

Ha ha, that's the song that got me started on Beefheart on the first place (and i ain't finished yet)

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The Flaming Lips' Priest Driven Ambulance through Clouds Taste Metallic.

I'd love to be able to start with Transmissions and go to Soft Bulletin, but the fact that Zaireeka, while actually a good record, really doesn't make the cut, even if it were a less unweildy format than the crazy 4 simultaneous cd release thing. If Zaireeka wasn't wedged in there, I'd even nominate Priest through Soft Bulletin as a five-record run.

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I can read, people, and trust me, I know the history of Magical Mystery Tour. I think it's fair to count double 7"es as an EP (see also, Liz Phair's "Juvenilia") - they certainly can't be just written off as singles. And nobody has yet answered Edward III's question "Who said EPs don't count?"

Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

No one, but we were generally talking about albums and the Beatles' album sequence was, after all, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, White Album.

Anyway, it wasn't a case for trying to get the Beatles in on a technicality or anything! Magical Mystery Tour is an awesome EP.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

But isn't it the first four Voivod albums?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, actually, that the '68 era Magic Band could have been better represented than by Strictly Personal, by the way. And not just the phase shifting, either - I like the Mirror Man version of "Kandy Korn" better.

me too, Tim. I love what Lucas and Johnston did with it on the Fast 'n' Bulbous album this year. I love Beef--his albums are a bit like James Brown's, I guess, so strong and yet so flawed. No one could keep up that inhuman pace anyway. and speaking of "Sheriff of Hong Kong," sometimes I get into its flow and it sounds incredible, sometimes I feel like I'm riding go-kart on a muddy dirt track with two fat-bottomed gurls...which might actually be a good thing now that I type that...

xp

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
As he writes above, Mr. Matos revives this thread, sorta, in his recent reissues column:

[Talking Heads first four albums] stand with any four consecutive albums ever made by anybody. (The Velvet Underground and Public Enemy aside, these are almost certainly the greatest first four albums in all of pop music.)

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

is this albums or singles? if it's the latter i'd say there has to be a run of jam singles -, when you're young, strange town, eton rifles, going underground
never been surpassed

Dr XO'Skeleton, Monday, 5 December 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

no one repped for

the smiths > hatful of hollow > meat is murder > the queen is dead

?

i will then.

jive session (elwisty), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see why folks give the props they do to the Talking Heads foursome ... but I personally think Remain in Light is the worst of the four. Yes, the record has perhaps the band's two best songs, but side 2 is dang near unlistenable to me.

Even so, More Songs ... and Fear of Music are two of the most colossally great rock records. No false notes on either album, especially the latter.

Chris O., Monday, 5 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

How about a run of Motorpsycho records:

Timothy's monster > Blissard > Angels and deamons at play > Trust us

All equally great.

Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

look people just admit it, the correct, most widely-consensus-ed answer is CCR.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Since no-one else is going to, I have to second Marty's call on Motorpsycho. They get no love 'round here. Blissard being the best of those four, obv. Will they ever make another album? Will I ever get to see them live again? (Once is not enough) But I'm not proposing that they win the contest. No. How's about the Sun City Girls, the Majora years? It's a pretty great run that has to be taken as a whole:

# Torch of the Mystics LP (Majora) 1990
# Dawn of the Devi LP (Majora) 1991
# Live from Planet Boomerang 2-LP (Majora) 1992
# Bright Surroundings, Dark Deginnings LP (Majora) 1993
# Valentines from Matahari LP (Majora) 1993
# Kaliflower CD/LP (Abduction) 1994

myopic_void (myopic_void), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding Motorpsycho, you're right they're not often mentioned over here. Maybe cus they're a typical european band and they haven't toured the UK (let alone the US) that much?

I'm ultimately down with Trust Us, which is probably my favorite record of all time, with AADAP as a great runner-up.

They've recently finished recording the new one, though their drummer left a few months ago so it's made only by Bent and Snah, and the first rumours about a new tour in the spring of 2006 are to be found on the MP-forum. Release is expected somewhere in feb/mar 2006. I guess.

Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Thread is dead I guess, but to add a couple new ones:

The last one is a compilation of two EPs, but it's been an "album" as far as I can remember, and rivals any of Nick Cave's best solo work.
Birthday Party 80
Prayers On Fire 81
Junkyard 82
The Bad Seed/Mutiny 83

How Curtis Mayfield was overlooked is beyond me.
Curtis 70
Roots 71
Superfly 72
Back To The World 73

I'd say The Sound has an edge over Comsat Angels in that Heads and Hearts doesn't suck.
Jeopardy 80
From The Lions Mouth 81
All Fall Down 82
Heads And Hearts 85

Though I'm a little tired of her at the moment,
Debut 93
Post 95
Homogenic 97
Vespertine 01

Arto Lindsay may be the most underrated artist of the last decade.
Mundo Civilizado 97
Noon Chill 98
Prize 99
Invoke 02

Am I alone in thinking CCR didn't really make albums? They seemed to me to be just singles collections with filler. For someone like Otis Redding, it works. But when I borrowed the box set of all their albums, I really couldn't get into any of the so-called album tracks.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 4 February 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Fastnbulbous OTM regarding Bjork.

Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Sunday, 5 February 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

the 3 new pornographers records + the a.c newman solo are the 1st four greatest lp's of the new millenium.

let me just add, Sunday, 5 February 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

here we go:

Eno's 4 vocal albums (I know he did Discreet Music in between there, but these kind of form a set)

They Might Be Giants - s/t, Lincoln, Flood, Apollo 18

Van der Graaf Generator - H to He Who Am The Only One, Pawn Hearts, Godbluff, Still Life

Orbital - Orbital 2, Snivilisation, In Sides, Middle of Nowhere

Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique, Check Your Head, Ill Communication, Hello Nasty

ELP - s/t, Tarkus, Trilogy, Brain Salad Surgery

The Orb - Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld, U.F. Orbus, Orbus Terrarum, Orblivion

Ween - The Mollusk, White Pepper, quebec, Shinola vol. 1 (ok counting Shinola is kinda lame but it's up there with the rest)

Gary Numan - Tubeway Army, Replicas, Pleasure Principle, Telekon

Pink Floyd – Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall
Genesis – Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Gets Next to You
Let's Stay Together
I'm Still in Love with You
Call Me
pretty fair run.

church

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link


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