― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link
i think it's kind of trying it a bit hard to say, because britpop musicians were all white (in a 95% white population) and were not influenced by post-hip-hop/acid house black american styles, they are necessarily racist. i don't hear a big 'black' influence in the sex pistols either.
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link
difference was - dnb came up with some astonishing records. britrock rubbed its cock in the slim up'n'down camdon lock.
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link
-- mullygrubbr (fan...), August 12th, 2005.
yeah, well, that just like, your opinion, man.
also: no media push for trip hop and dnb? ahahahahahahahahaha!
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost: bullshit, britpop was not from the start a media invention.
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link
and...ah?
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
but the concept of " grassroots expression of creativity " as opposed to OH NOES CORPORATE THROAT-RAM is like, totally, not adequate.
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Seems to me that the problem people have is not with the bands lumped under Britpop per se but rather the media's coverage of it to the exclusion of all else. Until we have enough distance to seperate out the records that Blur, Pulp, Elastica, Supergrass, Boo Radleys, Oasis et al made from the media bollocks that surrounded it they won't be fairly judged on their musical merits.
― mms (mms), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link
grassroots = just me knee jerking to an argument you weren't actually making i guess.
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Spice Girls & co may have knocked Britpop out of the mainstream, but the retained the pop melody. Which has never disappeared afterwards. Britpop put a definite end to the era when a "pop song" was supposed to be something made around a repetitive synth theme, adding a thumping bass drum, a gospel influenced female vocalist in the chorus (who was not allowed to appear in the video because they'd hire some model instead) and some rapper in the verse. That era has never returned.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link
END OF THREAD.
― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link
PLEASE PUT HIM OUT OF MY MISERY
― winter testing (winter testing), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Paul Edward Wagemann OTM.
People act like traditional pop wouldn't have existed anymore if this (bowel) movement hadn't come along, it's ridiculous.
Thank god for guerilla gigs or we'd all be listening to minimal house & crunk'n'b obviously...
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link
also, traditional pop - wossat then?
― winter testing (winter testing), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
i do.
-- stevem
I do too.
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― winter testing (winter testing), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
All-time greatest Scot contender Edwyn Collins did a song about it at the time:
"Its the same old story,Englands glory, Claming back the Union Jack my arse"
― everything (everything), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link
It never rang true from the start for me, and it felt like CLEARLY announced from the start too, unlike the natural progression of Madchester etc.
It also bugged me how it led to Northerners being thick monkeys and Southerners being clever cockneys all over again.
Of course it's totally fair to point out that the US "invasion" was waning, and yes the guitar element of the "summer of love" did seem to have fallen apart rather, as did the Hacienda dream.... still a moment of weakness hardly excuses a vicious ideological pounce & reinforcing of some *very* dubious 'values' I hardly feel any more refreshed by in the 00's than I did then.
Anyone sick of their Cigarettes and Alcohol yet?
I'm nostalgic for the early 90's too, but Britpop's "nostalgia" felt poisonous and manufactured from the word go.
Something does occur to me though... "Blinded By The Lights" vs. "Sorted for E's & Wizz"?
Maybe these thigns do come in waves but I'm wondering what exactly DID give the Britpop 2.0 movement such impetus? What was THAT reacting to? Destiny's Child?
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link