I struggle to forgive Eldritch for three shows now (one with Depeche Mode in 91, Reading Festival with Tony James 92? and one a couple of years ago in Glasgow) for very nearly making me not care about this band any more.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Be honest Alex - if you could stand the best Wayne song against even the worst Benn Gunn era song, who would win? Exactly. (It's also worth noting at least a few of those songs existed as rough versions before Wayne turned up - see also some Mission and Ghost Dance {the only one of the lot to embrace their Glam roots properly} songs having turned up at Sisters soudchecks.)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.denis.co.uk/acatalog/dor-mi-wh-uu-l-0001.jpg
― Big Wayne (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
If I posted a note transcription instead, most would shrug. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
that said, they do have some classic jamz.
― Geoffrey Mark Maddock (cutups), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link
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― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM re pre-Wayne era Sisters, though there are still a few good tracks to be found during and after Wayne. That version of 'Sugar Baby Love' I grabbed off your slsk roxorz, not so sure about 'He's got the whole world in his hands' though...
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
To be fair, Mr E does say before it that you'll all hate it.
OK, I may have overstated slightly the shiteness off the Wayne era and beyond, but decent tracks are few and far between. I've never rated Marian, btw.
Eldritch + Steinman should = genius, instead = quite good.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
And is the SSV album that bad? I've never managed to find it anywhere.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.thesistersofmercy.com/gen/ressv.htm
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm with Siegbran there -- there were a number of albums that Merciful Release put out in the early nineties that were non-SOM, but none of them seemed to be a guise for the man himself.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
In regards to new material and you personally - the last thing I am aware of you ‘releasing’ was some remixes for Die Krupps in 1994. What are you up to lately? Anything new since then - or in the works? Rumour has it that you’ve produced a couple of techno albums under various pseudonyms - any truth to this?
You are very well-informed. That is a rumour I will not deny (although I prefer the description "ambient-pop-industrial-techno hybrid with tunes and intelligence"). Nor would I confirm it if it were true - because rumour has it that I actually performed the albums in question. My contract with East West prevents me from being a featured artist in any other arena, and East West are prepared to spend a lot of money in court to uphold their belief that the contract is still in force. Even if I had a pathological need to openly perform on records, I would need an awful lot of money to assert my freedom. I have neither, so it's not much of an issue.
Actually, East West are preparing to spend a lot of money in court to uphold their belief that I should be forced to make records for them. Most labels give up when the artist has been on strike for four years or so. East West are so desperate that they won't give up ...after seven years. That really is desperate.
That sounds like a "yes, it's true but I can't legally say so" to me.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I just can't get into any of the studio albums thereafter... although, yeah, I do like "This Corrosion" for its goth campiness, and can't get it out of my head, because it was my first exposure to the band, via that video...(oooh yeah, shore more pits, Patricia.. "Sing!", girl)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Unfortunately, the promoters pulled the entire tour -- probably due to poor ticket sales -- but I remember Eldritch saying something about how promoters were afraid to take risks on line-ups that would cross-pollinate audiences from very different musical territories, etc..
and then a year or so later, along came the first Lollapalooza.
(Not saying a Sisters/Public Enemy tour would be the first atypical tour, but I thought it was a cool gesture on both bands' parts to try it.)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
...with Gang of Four as openers.I saw it roll through Radio City Music Hall. Andy came out for the encore wearing a PE baseball jersey, which was dead cool, i thought.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 25 March 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
I just can't summon up a desire to listen to them now, although that Sisterhood record was extraordinary and I wouldn't mind hearing that again at all.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
The Reptile House record was my favourite, if I recall correctly, although Temple of Love 12" really blew my mind when I first heard it.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link
DOMINION!
classic, obv
― daria g (daria g), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Does anyone remember James Ray & The Performance?
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link
For me, when the Sisters ceased being a "band" per se and just became Andrew and whomever else he happened to have recently befriended, I sort've lost interest a bit. Once Wayne and Craig left, they took much of the mystique with them (only to squander it in a very silly fashion in the Mission who, I must confess, I was a rather large fan of for a while).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Most of what James Ray did was sub-Sisters piss but Texas is a fine single and is pretty much everything you should ever own by him (says the guy with Gangwar albums stagnating around here somewhere).
I went to see them a Bath Moles around 1991/2 just to convince myself James Ray wasn't just a guise under which Eldritch could release any crap he wanted. 16 people turned up, it was shite.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I stand by what I said upthread though, it was all downhill after Adrenochrome.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link
"For me, when the Sisters ceased being a "band" per se and just became Andrew and whomever else he happened to have recently befriended, I sort've lost interest a bit."
Actually, that's when I start loving them.
I the fake-rock Steinman stuff and only like the I'm-too-gloomy-for-my-leathers gothy stuff.
― Ian in Brooklyn, Friday, 25 March 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian in Brooklyn, Friday, 25 March 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't see the video until way after the fact.....and it's embarassing (though not as embarassing as the Mission's clip for "Stay with Me", which -- I believe -- was intended to be silly and over the top). Not sure if "This Corrosion" is supposed to be taken seriousy or not as a video, but it was dire.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 25 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
if only i had got to leeds a couple of years earlier.i got there in oct'86, and the three johns were still a force to be reckoned with (SO SO good live), but the whole SoM thing had faded away.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link
Ha, great interview - thanks for the link! Also I think I got the wrong end of the stick about Pink Headed Bug, apols
― building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link
Yeah CNT was a Langford heavy label so this is 3 Johns version but the Langford/Sisters link is underrated
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
I love that in that interview Langford leans on Eldritch showing him b&w Doctor Who.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
mark e, i nearly moved to leeds in october '86 but followed love and went to glasgow instead. i wonder if i had if our paths would have crossed, perhaps at a 3 johns gig?
i did get to leeds a couple of years earlier though to visit my sister who was living there and saw SoM at leeds uni.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
first time i saw them was at their 'free johnnies with the three johnnies' gig that they put on for the AIDS charity in the basement of a leeds university bar.they were of course brilliant, and such sonic insanity made me become a fan for life.and then my memory is fazed as i may have seen them elsewhere prior to their final 3 gigs at the 'pub with no name' aka the duchess of york.but booze and excess etc.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i.e. i think i went to see them at a venue on the outskirts of leeds, a ballroom type of venue.but i cant recall the name, or the reason why i was there.but i am pretty sure i was there.whereas their supposed three final gigs at the duchess i most certainly was.they were so so so good live.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
I want to say this was Hyde Park somewhere?
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Friday, 23 April 2021 07:13 (three years ago) link
actually, i think it was the Astoria (Harehills, and a very ballroom type of place), it could have been the gig that was recorded for Death Of Everythingin fact, i do remember going, cos i went with friends.
― mark e, Friday, 23 April 2021 07:57 (three years ago) link
Dylan sacked on stage on Saturday. Lots of speculation that the end is imminent, and they may not even see out the currently booked shows.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 25 September 2023 21:43 (seven months ago) link
source??
― c u (crüt), Monday, 25 September 2023 23:41 (seven months ago) link
read about the two Roundhouse gigs here - https://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=37
― StanM, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link
(specifically, starting on page 6 of the 22nd September show)
― StanM, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:08 (seven months ago) link
thanks!
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 00:56 (seven months ago) link
Dylan's not been seen since Saturday. Sunday & today (forum members are live posting during the Amsterdam show): Ben (guitar & vocals), Chris (nurse/keyboard/drum machine), Andrew (croaking)
― StanM, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 19:02 (seven months ago) link
Bauhaus::Sisters of MercyFrank Sinatra::Nancy Sinatra
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:41 (seven months ago) link
Uh, I think you’re going to need to expand a little on that analogy.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:47 (seven months ago) link
I thought it was pretty well self-contained.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:52 (seven months ago) link
So like, Bauhaus are the Sisters' dad, but the Sisters are more underrated and do great duets? Is Terri Nunn Lee Hazlewood?
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 27 September 2023 12:53 (seven months ago) link
Damn, now i really want to hear Frank Sinatra singing Bela Lugosi
― blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:23 (seven months ago) link
The Sisters had a fruitful collaboration with Jim Steinman, so maybe the analogy works?
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:12 (seven months ago) link
I want to be a part of it, undead undead
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:16 (seven months ago) link
Hahaha!
― blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:17 (seven months ago) link
I can imagine Andrew Eldritch singing "Some Velvet Morning" but only the Lee Hazlewood parts
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:32 (seven months ago) link