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so why on earth do you like it?!

i don't think it's quite as bad as you say - maybe having to endure the klaxons, justice and digitalism albums prior to it was a help here - but if it was i can't imagine being able to listen to it even as a mere "pop" record

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

The ideas and hooks outweigh the production. I don't think they were remotely interested in making this a masterpiece of sound construction.

I mean, it's still better than being, say Stefan Bodzin* and having beautiful sound engineering technique and zero ideas, hence endless reiterations of The Sky Was Pink for the last year or so.

*Disclaimer, not heard the album.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

bodzin doesn't make anything remotely like 'the sky was pink'!

i don't think there are many ideas on the SMD album either. hooks yes though it's hardly weighed down with them

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

bodzin doesn't make anything remotely like 'the sky was pink'!

!!!!!

He basically ripped off that sound for the whole of 2006.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

(I'm perfectly willing to give the album the benefit of the doubt though)

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

i don't think i heard any of his 2006 singles!

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

I like it. It's chunky and colourful but I'm listening to it as a pop record and not a house record at all.

Absolutely, if this were a collection of 12's it would probably be just ok, but as a bunch of 7's it works beautifully.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

"too many sharp edges and squealy treble"

I don't have a problem with this and I think it's deliberate. That's what it's supposed to sound like. Just about everything else out there is lush, deep and lenghty. Bring on the changes, I say.

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 16:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

sounds like they need more bass. at least a lot of early 00s breaks stuff has good bass.

blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

Maybe "good bass" = old fart music? Perhaps it's a deliberate attempt to distance themselves from Bassment Jaxx etc. I gather that in the UK this is a very young scene.

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'd guess they are almost as old as jaxx they've been around as SIMIAN for almost as long.

pisces, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

Nah. The Jaxx first records came out in 95. Chemistry is What We Are is from 2001.

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

haven't heard it but if it's anything like "it's the beat" it's fucking awful

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

See, I don't get that. To me "It's The Beat" is great. What's so awful about it?

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

Maybe "good bass" = old fart music?

lol, please to stfu.

jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

if I wanted to hear trebly quirky shit I'd make it rock music so I could get paid for it

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

'Tits And Acid' is the one i rly like but it could be better.

blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's Attention Defecit Disco.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

do you think the lack of bass that everyone complains about in blog house could have something to do with modern music programs? i read similar complaints about the field album lacking in bass and sounding "too ableton"

creme1, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

compression is one of the big factors. everything is dulled. but the trend has been to move away from heavy or dominant basslines in other genres too (everything rap orientated inc. US hip-pop and grime derived stuff in the UK).

blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's the fact that it's designed to be listened to on laptop speakers rather than in clubs / on decent hi-fis. This is the tipping point when all the shit I've been wailing on about for the last 18 months that you lot have been ignoring starts to effect you in negative ways and you all realise I was right. We will hoist Dangermouse on the gallows before the month is out.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

but i'd say the centre of much of this music is those huge distorted bass guitar lines

xp

creme1, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but depending what you play those huge distorted bass guitar lines on, they don't actually exist.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

This is the tipping point when all the shit I've been wailing on about for the last 18 months that you lot have been ignoring starts to effect you in negative ways and you all realise I was right.

Oh yeah? Well I'm still gonna watch movies on my laptop gramps

blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Complaining" about the lack of bass in modern music such as The Field or SMD is like "complaining" about 303s being too bleepy. It's the nature of the medium and people are exploring it to find what can be done with it. At the very least, it gives the music a distinctive sound that is very "now". Looking back on the history of popular music, that's generally a good thing.

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Field doesn't have bass because it's a home listening type thing. The tracks he actually plays out, e.g. Over the Ice have bass. Presumably because he's not enough of a douchecanoe to inflict bassless dance music on people.

jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh god, the field, we saw him live last week and everyone fucking stood round the dj booth in a semicircle motionless like they were at some sort of laptop indie gig. dreadful.

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

What exactly does he do though? Play records?

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Complaining" about the lack of bass in modern music such as The Field or SMD is like "complaining" about 303s being too bleepy. It's the nature of the medium and people are exploring it to find what can be done with it. At the very least, it gives the music a distinctive sound that is very "now". Looking back on the history of popular music, that's generally a good thing.

what a load of nonsense.

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

the field and simian mobile disco are a medium now? or even any way similar to each other?

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

CUT THE MIDRANGE
CUT THE BASS

strongohulkington, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think "tinny, overcompressed 'dance music' that sounds best on low-res mp3s" is almost certainly a genre at this point

strongohulkington, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

neither the field nor SMD sound remotely "now". if we're comparing bassless music then cassie's 'me & u' beats both of them hands fucking down.

What exactly does he do though? Play records?

well, yes, but when dance artists play dance records people are generally meant to dance.

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

jess that sounds like you're describing MIA

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

wait, which MIA?

strongohulkington, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyway beyond the facile bass/no bass red herring, the reason this sucks is that it sounds like the bad bits of electroclash, which first emerged about 5 years ago.

it's electrohouse minus the dance music, braxe minus the disco, just a big messy load of crap for the "omg electro rock! i am a cool indie now!" audience.

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

bird flu MIA

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

i would lump her in there too, yes!

strongohulkington, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

I gotta say I like the fact that it's somewhat sloppy/messy. There's tons of micro-managed ultra-sleek music around, expecially dance music, so why not make room for some of this?

As for the indie fan thing, I don't know or care about that.

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, there's too much of that "music that doesn't sound like shit" going about. It's a real bummer.

jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

x-post nobody's stopping them from making it, people can like what they want.

dance acts like this make albums when they've stopped being interesting and have to milk their sound to ads and people who want to like "all types of music". in SMD's case I never found them interesting anyway.

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

"so much good music around! why not make room for some crap?"

xp!

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

fwiw i think a big reason this shit gets hype and other better dance music doesn't is because they have really good PRs

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

That's a good one!

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

God Ronan, you're such a snob, hating on this supposed audience. I don't care about who their audience is. I'm unlikely to ever see them in a live setting anyway. I've only ever listened to this on laptop speakers myself and it sounds just fine.

everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Southall baiting continues unabated!

jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 19:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

shut your blab and dance, you faggots

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 10 May 2007 19:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

qed

Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

you guys just don't like them cause theyre white!

somuchsomuch24, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

"far out" is all kinds of classic tho, its hard NOT to go crazy when that gets thrown on

max, Sunday, 23 September 2007 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

probably the bad vibe is partly my fault, i should have stayed to the back where there was room to do dances that werent just jumping up and down rather than getting up to the front with the really drunk violent types

the light show was great too

max, Sunday, 23 September 2007 16:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

and your selectors for fabriclive 41 are...

01 Tomita - The Firebird – Infernal Dance Of King Kastechi [Clean Version] – SonyBMG
02 Sisters Of Transistors – The Don – This Is Music
03 Simian Mobile Disco – Simple - Wichita
04 Hercules And Love Affair – Blind [Serge Santiago Version] – EMI
05 Smith N Hack – Space Warrior – Errorsmith and Soundhack
06 Discodeine – Joystick – Dirty
07 Shit Robot – Chasm – DFA
08 Perc & Fractal – Up Tool – Kompakt
09 Metro Area – Miura – Environ
10 Worthy – Crack EI – Leftroom
11 Moon Dog – Suite Equestria – Roof
12 Fine Cut Bodies – Huncut Hacuka – Chi Recordings
13 Bentobox vs Chordian – Aemono - Imprimé
14 Jelo & DeadMau5 – The Reward Is Cheese – Rising Trax
15 Simian Mobile Disco - Sleep Deprivation [Simon Baker Remix] – Wichita
16 Popof – The Chomper [LSD Version]– Turbo Recordings
17 Raymond Scott – Cindy Electronium – Basta
18 Paul Woolford Presents Bobby Peru – Erotic Discourse – 2020 Vision
19 Moebius Plank Neumeier – Pitch Control – Sky Records
20 Plastikman – Spastik – Mute
21 Green Velvet – Flash – Relief Records
22 The Walker Brothers – Nite Flights [Album Version] – SonyBMG

haitch, Thursday, 12 June 2008 09:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

they played spastik and flash in their set at primavera which i thought was gonna be all live but was 70% DJing bah

blueski, Thursday, 12 June 2008 10:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

yup. dull as can be. i drifted over to Surkin which was sooooo much better but with a fraction of the crowd.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 12 June 2008 10:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

does surkin even have an album out? i mean its not like he wont get the same full court press-press when he does, b/w when i saw kevin saunderson he dropped 'white knights two'

anyway this SMD album is so great

deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 11:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

Max is OTM about them being so much better live than on record.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 June 2008 11:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

smd still sucks, but there's great remixes of their tracks up on the shit robot and invisible conga people myspaces.

etc, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

I like that 'System' track from the 'Live In Japan' release. is the Clock EP any good?

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Monday, 27 October 2008 14:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

ADSR is alright, but the Sample And Hold ADSR remix album is better. The Joakim remix of Hustler and the Chrome Hoof remix of Clock are the best things they've released.

Sbarrohawk (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 27 October 2008 15:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

I was a bit surprised by just how hostile the Pitchfork review of S&H was... judged as a compilation album entirely on its own merits, it's not great, but it's hardly terrible, and well above the standards of most of these remix comps. And the Chrome Hoof mix really is great.

Telephone thing, Monday, 27 October 2008 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

hangover/apology for the good review they gave the album?

skygreenleopard, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 06:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

SMD - The Audacity of Huge...

Audaciously godawful.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 23 July 2009 13:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes. There's one or two alright ones on the new album (track 5 I think?), but overall very disappointing.

plazzTT, Thursday, 23 July 2009 13:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

am expecting album to suck even tho i really liked the first one

Aqua Teen Cunga Force (blueski), Thursday, 23 July 2009 13:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

The live show last night surprised me by actually being, like, completely awesome. Either they are just a million times better live than on record (admittedly a very strong possibility) or the album will actually be really good. Single still weak though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 July 2009 08:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

2nd track they did was new and seemed like the best thing they've ever done

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 30 July 2009 09:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Glad they've stepped up the live show. I think the first time I saw them was either their first or second time playing live and it lacked... pretty much everything. Seemed like they were very much still trying to figure out how to translate the record to a performable version. Hence why I didn't go last night.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 30 July 2009 09:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

not sure if a new thread for Temporary Pleasure is really worthwhile because it's a bit of a let down (or, if you hated the first LP, more of the same but a bit worse)

i don't know if it's just that there seem to be fewer hooks or neat ideas (despite there being more songs and guest vocals on this one - the Beth Ditto one is OK but no stretch for her), or the drums are just so compressed that it doesn't sound v good unless really really loud...probably both. 'Synthesize' blew me away in the live show but that power doesn't come thru on the record quite as much (well not on standard headphones via spotify at least). i still like their 'celestial organ' type sounds but they haven't really varied or broadened the palette for this so ehh...

unban dictionary (blueski), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 11:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

SMD have got an album of acid bangers (mixed into a short DJ set, style mix) coming out called Delicacies and it is fucking awesome.

Loads of tweaking acid, trance and techno done on all their vintage equipment.

You can keep lame hook ups with Kele Bloc Party and all that shit (although Hustler will always have place in my heart). This is what they're ace at.

Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

no thread about the new stuff? hm seems not.

here's the new album stream on The Graun. check Your Love Aint Fair and Seraphim if you like techno-pop stuff.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/may/04/simian-mobile-disco-unpatterns-stream

piscesx, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Hustler" still kicks ass - pleasant surprise whenever it comes up on shuffle.

skip, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

yah i feel like ADSR got retroactively disowned or something. it's got a handful of great songs.

caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

"cruel intentions" off their 2nd album is prob a top-10 song of the last 5 yrs for me

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink


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