I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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I don't understand it either. Maybe it's just too much Beatles for some people? I've only got a couple of tiny quibbles with them and it's usually just those times when it gets a bit self-indulgent, like those different version of the Fool On The Hill. Paul is obviously so proud of them but I just can't take it.

everything, Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

ppl just like to complain about the beatles, i guess.

anthology 2 is the best, what with the stoned cracking-up version of and your bird can sing and the gorgeous demos of strawberry fields. 3 is good for the white album stuff, and 1 is probably the only time any americans (me included) will ever hear any morecambe and wise.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"as any fule kno, Beatles CDs are not very common 2nd hand, except for the Anthologies and the BBC thing."

Well, they are getting slightly more plentiful. In fact, I got most of my collection used. But, then again, I've been lucky. The worst thing about used Beatle cds is that stores priced higher than average (i.e. in the US 10-12 dollars vs. 7-9). Shopping around helps, and the prices have leveled off (and no doubt will continue)

I will concur regarding the Anthologies and the BBC, but--to cite my earlier post--alot of the people who bought them probably realized that they didn't listen to them as much as the regular LPs.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The live stuff at the end of disc 1 and the beginning of disc 2 of Anthology 1 is really cool.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

it's paul's fault. bless him.

Neil Aspinall is probably the one to blame.

Anyway, seems like some good news is finally coming up.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, I'm not hating on any of the contents of the Anthologies (aside from, again, the talky stuff on Anth1) - I LOVE the music on those discs, the glimpses into the recording studio, etc. And when I was 16 me and my Beatle buddy developed a substantial secret language out of the miscellaneous bits of studio chatter. "Sugar plum fairy, sugar plum fairy..."

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Vague but sort of promising, I guess. The catalog does need CD remastering, badly, as the in-print CDs (except Let It Be Naked, and maybe that Yellow Submarine "songtrack" from a few years ago?) are all from that late-80s batch of early-generation CDs that gave CDs such a bad name.

While I agree that they need remastering, I don't neccessarily agree with your version of what they sounded like. The first four, sure, but the rest, particularly from "Sgt. Pepper" onwards, used state of the art remastering technology at the time, and sounded really impressive back then.

Only this is 20 years ago and a lot has happened since then.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

the Pepper cd sounds horrible against the vinyl version. The White Album stacks up ok but I got the 30th anniversary reissue not the original cd.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

abby road still sounds really good. I'm sure a remastering will make it sound better but I listened to it yesterday carefully with headphones and was pretty blown away by how good it sounded.

I think the Anthologies are a pretty good distillation of the best stuff that makes up the two major bootleg series (ultra rare trax and, uh, whatever the other one is called; they have most of the same stuff on them). I could do w/out the talking on the first cd.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

The Beatles are really smart to make people wait for every new issue. Keeps the interest up. When they are finally remastered it'll probably be on the cover of Time.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I assumed it was just a question of having to sort out all manner of legalities before anything happened in the Beatle world.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

What was interesting about the Anthology releases/phenomenon is that a lot of kids who were first getting into the band around that time all bought the Anthologies as if they were Greatest Hits Collections. I often see volumes of the Anthologies in people's collection as the only Beatles representation. "Just the b-sides, demos, and alternative takes for you eh?" They were hoodwinked!

ryan_w, Friday, 14 April 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

coincidentally (or perhaps not), michael jackson is also giving up his ownership of the publishing rights to sony this week, I think, to deal with some of his debt.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i can imagine people getting suckered into the anthologies as some kind of definitive look at the beatles... that bluesy version of helter skelter is really wonderful. and the acoustic "across the universe".

xpost

dave k, Friday, 14 April 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure The White Album will always sound best on vinyl.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Are there any Beatle albums that don't?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, so in that case, why does there need to be such a rush to get them remastered?

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I for one hear absolutely no difference.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i mean it does take the piss doesn't it?

pisces, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lo-lo-lo-looooots of piss, sir! :(

t**t, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought Help for £1 in a charity shop the other week. It was cheap because the cover was ripped (and taped up again) and the vinyl's a bit crackly, but it's not scratched at all. Even with the crackles it sounds great - a lot better than the CD versions, The Night Before especially gaining an awful lot of character and energy. I too am amazed there's no proper CD remaster, I guess because people are still buying the current shonky versions.

The Wayward Johnny B, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

This footage
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compleat+beatles
of 'The Compleat Beatles' (snappy 1984 cheaply-made proto-ANTHOLOGY movie, shot on film and narrated by Malcolm Mcdowell) is
making me anticipate this happening all the more.

pisces, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

It will happen before or since, but apparently at still takes time.

I expected they'd at least do "Sgt. Pepper" in June this year to coincide with its 40th anniversary, but they did't.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

But at least, with the current trend for remasters, the ultimate edition will be better. I hope they will do like The Bee Gees and Monkees remasters, and put out 2CDs with the stereo version + bonus tracks in stereo on one and the mono version + bonus tracks in mono on the other one.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

they never do anything right with the beatles catalogue, they're sure to disappoint someone. i say live with the ebbett's bootlegs for now.

akm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe something with the Apple/iPod stuff later today.

caek, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

that's been the rumour, but it was the rumour a few months ago also. anyway, it's been confirmed that the albums have been remastered (by bruce spizer, in some interview last month), but not packaged or manufactured yet, and no confirmation on whether they'll have a mono/stereo split or what, or when they're ever going to come out.

akm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

macca and ringo 'secret gig' rumoured
volume one of lewisohn triple-volume biog coming at xmas

its hotting up again on the fabs front. a bit.

pisces, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

macca and ringo 'secret gig' rumoured

At long last their tribute show to the White Stripes.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

At long last their tribute show to the White Stripes godheadSilo.

David R., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Beatles Remasters

smash your phonograph in half, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I posted that link before realizing that it is kind of a goldmine.

smash your phonograph in half, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn, wish I had a bigger hard drive...

Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

(no penis jokes plz)

Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

if pressed for time, go for white album disc 5 - kinfauns demos

then rubber soul through magical mystery tour, mono versions

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Are the demos the same as the ones that show up on the Anthology, or are these different? And how do they compare in quality?

Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

makes me wish i had decent external speakers for my laptop. my beatles records are not very "nice" copies. all US pressings, mostly stereo. they do sound great in mono though.

ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

mono mixes = the mixes, up until the white album

xpost same ones, but complete & good quality. it's them camped at home with a 4 track, learning the songs as they track them but having fun, sounding much more like a band than the album

http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=vigo_183§ion=1

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i really wish that circus mashup album didn't suck so bad.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

has anyone ever noticed that the ebbetts bootlegs sound like crap on headphones?. especially yellow submarine and magical mystery tour.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the stereo of those albums (some of them) is very wide so that's why; ebbetts did cd versions of almost everything though, including weird shit like canadian stereo versions, etc, which differ slightly. I think the regular cd stereo versionns of MMT and Pepper are alright (and really don't have any serious problems with white album or abbey road either; I think abbey road is a pretty glorious sounding cd). the early records are a mixed bag; these days I prefer the capitol box versions (anyway I grew up with the US versions of the albums, so it's kind of nice to return to the admittedly fucked up tracklistings...though I do think 'the second album' is pretty awesome).
anyway yeah the purple chick stuff is pretty exciting, it seems to have just popped up in the past few months? or at least that's where I heard about it. and being distributed completely free so no evil bootleggers making money. it makes official remasters kind of irrelevant.
today i listened to all the 'sessions' mixes of tracks off the anthology,critically and without the 'oh wow new beatles songs' luster...these really do sound like shit, emerick should be embarrassed.

akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:05 (fifteen years ago) link

but also yeah, i'm pretty much ready to sell all my parlophone beatles cds once I can get ahold of all the purple chick stuff; i usually only listen to digital files anyway, and I have a blue box vinyl set, so there's no need to keep the crappy pressings with bad artwork.

akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link

also, while I agree that the mono pepper is interesting, i really disagree that it's the better of the mixes. I think the novelty of it is kind of cool but there are bits and pieces that just sound sloppy. I know it's allegedly the mix they approved and they apparently didn't have much to do with the stereo version, but maybe that just shows the beatles were the best people to mix their material

akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

the purple chick version of the white album is really really amazing. i'm working on just downloading the albums (no bonus tracks) and converting them to mp3, for my ipod. the only problem is that some of the tracks are switched around. like...penny lane is on the purple chick version of sgt pepper's. it's kinda confusing when dealing with torrents.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:17 (fifteen years ago) link

The Purple Chick stuff is impressive though really it's just collating already available stuff in one place. It does that very very well though and as well as the main albums they've also done releases of Hollywood Bowl, The Songs The Beatles Gave Away, the fan club records, the Star Club tapes, the BBC sessions and the 92CD complete Get Back rehearsals (also check out their 10CD complete Buddy Holly and S&G's alternate Bookends)

The mono and stereo versions of the albums on the Purple Chick sets are just the UK Ebbetts versions. There is a version of the white album released by Darthdisc (? - i think) which is from a 'direct metal master' that may even be better.

The mono Pepper is sloppy in places but certainly Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds sounds better (more phasing).

Has anyone else heard the multitracks of A Day In The Life, With A Little Help From My Friends, Sgt Pepper and She's Leaving Home that were released as an addendum to the PC Sgt Pepper? Incredible to hear.

cheasyweasel, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

itll sound shit remastered. cant you just enjoy the originals?

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

you mean the 1st pressing UK vinyl? sure, we can all enjoy those.

ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

well, I can, anyroad.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

no way are these the same as the ebbet's version. especially not mmt.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Found this bootleg stereo remaster of what's probably my favorite Beatles album. It blows the original CD version out of the water and I think it's more impressive than any of the purple chick stuff.
http://octaner.blogspot.com/2008/05/beatles-for-sale-fabulous-sound-lab.html

Here's a mono version for you old-schoolers. Didn't download it, though, so I can't vouch for it.
http://6plus3.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/beatles-for-sale-dr-ebbetts-red-wax-mono/

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

When this thread was started in 2005, there might have been an expectation that the Beatles albums would get audiophile re-releases on SACD like so many of their peers. Two decades later, it rather surprises me that the Beatles never appeared on that format.

Melomane, Friday, 11 August 2023 12:32 (eight months ago) link

We really have to do this every few years don’t we?

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 11 August 2023 14:15 (eight months ago) link

McCartney can actually take the train now - I doubt that would have been possible 20 years ago.

― birdistheword

kids start looking at mccartney
mccartney starts to internally go "oh shit"
kids: "hey look it's an old lesbian"
mccartney breathes a sigh of relief, this is always what kids say when they look at him these days but every time he still worries

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 11 August 2023 14:39 (eight months ago) link

I thought this mean he was involved somehow in that Sheena Easton song.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 14:55 (eight months ago) link

ironically their very earliest stuff probably sounds the most relevant now to me, probably because the blues will never die

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 August 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link

The early stuff can definitely blindside you with its energy in a way the later stuff doesn't.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 11 August 2023 15:58 (eight months ago) link

twist and shout goes

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:02 (eight months ago) link

(dickhead comment warning)

the mono mixes of the early records were a real revelation for me, so much more energy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:03 (eight months ago) link

"We really have to do this every few years don’t we?"

we don't have to do it much anymore really because they have been remastered and now are being remixed and remastered.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link

I did think this thread was being revived because the red and blue packages had been officially announced along with Now and Then; rumor was that was supposed to happen this week

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:09 (eight months ago) link

My Macca takes the morning train

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 August 2023 17:46 (eight months ago) link

He works from 9 to 5 and Lennon

Mark G, Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:50 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

ok this new AI remix…what the hell is that repeating explosion sound during the bridge of “hey bulldog”? Sounds like someone rattling a reverb plate or something??

brimstead, Thursday, 23 November 2023 00:27 (four months ago) link

the “you can talk to me” part

brimstead, Thursday, 23 November 2023 00:28 (four months ago) link

It’s an additional snare drum. It was always there (and arguably more audible on the previous stereo mix).

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 November 2023 04:52 (four months ago) link

I wondered that too and yeah it's in the original mix but quieter.

It sounds like a snare reverb, but with a delay in front of it. Nowadays you call it pre-delay on a reverb unit, not sure how they managed that in 1968, perhaps with an Echoplex or a Binson and a bit of patching.

MaresNest, Thursday, 23 November 2023 14:41 (four months ago) link

Funny I find it less audible in the remix. Maybe because I’m so used to hearing it clearly in the previous stereo mix.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:14 (four months ago) link

Cool idea/detail anyway !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:14 (four months ago) link

weird, yeah, went back and AB-d it with the 2009 mix and couldn’t really hear it. But I know I’m probably listening more closely to this new stuff so maybe most of the new stuff I’m hearing isn’t really new. That said, the set does sound quite dynamic, yeah? Like when Ringo’s drums come in at the middle 8 of “this boy”, it’s like BOOM

brimstead, Thursday, 23 November 2023 18:50 (four months ago) link

Wasn't the remix exclusive to the Yellow Submarine Songtrack comp from the '00s?

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:04 (four months ago) link

The baseline on Hey Bulldog is such a joy (not just on the new mix)

Alba, Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:12 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.thebeatles.com/sites/default/files/2024-04/LetItBe_KA_4x5_032624.jpg

Today, Disney+ announced that “Let It Be,” director Michael Lindsay-Hogg’s original 1970 film about The Beatles, will launch exclusively on Disney+ May 8, 2024. This is the first time the film is available in over 50 years.

https://www.thebeatles.com/let-it-be-last

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:52 (four hours ago) link

This is the first time the film is available in over 50 years.

Wasn't it out on VHS/Video Disc in the '80s?

...and on CED!

(That's a deep cut for you obsolete media fans)

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:10 (two hours ago) link


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