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Nadal will be #1 on 18/8. Can't quite believe Fed's slump post-SW19; loss to Simon, near-loss to Ginepri, loss to Karlovic. Thought he might have at least made a fight of the #1 ranking (his form was fine for 18 of 19 matches in Paris, Halle and London); I had this romantic notion of the baton being passed as Fed beat Nadal at Flushing Meadow (Nadal's points surge taking him past the repeating champ despite the loss). Fed will be lucky to get out of the sixteens in NYC. Does Beijing have any ranking points?

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 August 2008 00:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it does. i think a few less than a masters event for the dudes, a few more than a tier ii for the chicas.

GOD that feels ridiculous looking at it! thinking about how much the olympics mean to, like, track&fielders and rowers and the like, and in tennis it's like...a TIER II.

anyway in other news, THIS is the 15-year-old saviour of the WTA who in the past month has taken sets from both serena and sweta, michelle larcher de brito:

she makes sharapova sound like a trappist. seriously i can't believe she hasn't been asked to stop that bullshit yet, or like MURDERED ON COURT by a deafened opponent. that's not a grunt, that's a scream with a sustain pedal on. i'm not sure i'm going to be able to actually watch any of her matches.

oh and in other news silliams has pissed on her phone at the beach:
sometimes you just long for the days before celebrities discovered how to work the internet themselves :(

(also note "enuf boring stuff" LIKE TENNIS)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

you know, i used to watch all the nonslams cuz my stepdad taped them. then i didn't speak to him anymore. i wish i knew when they were on -- i think i'm gonna have to get on top of that!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

they're on every week! televised or not is another qn

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

exactly, that's the thing.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Blake was asked about the partisan crowd before today's final and reminded everyone he's half English :)

BBC giving it "Blake is just happy to be here" bollocks - dude isn't here to make the numbers up. I think I'll be pro-Blake today, as he does things like this

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 13:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well done Andy!

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bit of a dull game lit up by a few stunning forehands. Shoddy line calls all day, none of which helped Blake. Well done to Murray on being the first Brit in yonks to win Queen's, which I'm sure won't lead to even more Wimbledon hype.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

I predict Murray will cave under the pressure and be out by round 3.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't seem to be the sort to cave under pressure. but a friendly first-week draw would certainly be nice...

didn't watch the Queen's, but watched the Edgbaston SFs (Li d. Sharapova and Rybarikova d. Mirza) and a bit of the final today - Magdalena Rybarikova is a real discovery, such a classic grass-court game! Slices and volleys and good serving! she looks weirdly like Samantha Morton, too. i remember seeing a photo of her from her junior days when she lost some random final - she was posing w/the trophy and seriously looked like she was about to go bowling for columbine. so it was lucky for Edgbaston that she won today!

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

in other news, larcher de screamo gets a wildcard to wimbledon. FUN.

Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

The weird transatlantification of Murray's pan loaf accent has meant I can't actually hear what he's saying - it's just a series of droning noises that makes my ears stop working.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

pan loaf accent

is that how you talk with your mouth full of bread?

Beth Parker, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

It was once more expensive and regarded as more fashionable than the then more common plain loaf. Hence, to speak with a pan loafy voice is to speak in a posh or affected manner.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

How on earth does Murray speak with an affected accent?! He just mumbles.

I found that picture of Rybarikova looking like she's ready to go bowling for Columbine after losing the Wimbledon juniors final!

Fortunately today was more to her liking.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

!!! interesting result for sure. fed dropped out?

Lamp, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah...Djokovic was lucky to be in the final at all, he had to come back from 5-7, 2-5 down and save 5 match points against Florent Serra (!) in the 2nd round.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...


French tennis player banned for betting found dead

Natural causes apparently.

RIP Mathieu

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fuckin' hell. (Though my initial shock was because I thought you meant Paul-Henri Mathieu...)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh right, sorry! To avoid confusion to others: it's Mathieu Montcourt.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Lex's favourite choker, Richard Gasquet avoids getting suspended after testing positive for coke.

The full findings are here (pdf): pretty lol-worthy just for the kissing descriptions and finding out that he was allegedly "contaminated" at a Bob Sinclar event.

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

hingis should've found a french waiter of her own to blame. or maybe just one of the 9494439 atp players she'd slept with.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

her ban ends in january right? think she'll come back?

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

wtf federer?! 5-2 up in the final set, somehow fails to serve it out twice and then DFs on match point in the tie-break to give Tsonga the win.

all credit to Jo-W for stepping it up right at the end, but still... that was some breakdown.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

5-1 up in the third! :o

at the same time I was watching Flavia Pennetta try to choke away her match - she beat Venus in the last round, and winning this would mean a top 10 debut. 6 match points came and went, double faults on at least two of them, but her opponent was Hantuchova so it was OK in the end.

btw, Serena's post-Wimbledon record = QF loss in Stanford to Stosur and 3R loss in Cincinnati to Bammer, who now owns a 2-0 record over her. The Real Number 1!

am endeavouring to pretend the horrific Clijsters comeback isn't happening. never liked her.

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

obv didn't see the Fed match but am guessing that J-W just started going even more for broke than usual when down 1-5, and everything began going in.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

yep and suddenly firing aces as well when he hadn't been able to get a good first serve in since like the end of the first set. meanwhile fed's serve just went to pieces after that.

also yay dinara fighting back a break in both sets to beat kimmy. would've hated it if she lost this one.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

this whole presser was fucking classic.

Q. Now that you stopped, what about coaching her?

MARAT SAFIN: Oh, you want me to hang myself? (laughter.)

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wow, Pennetta will be Italy's FIRST EVER top 10 woman! Both Schiavone and, before her, Farina Elia peaked at 11.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, Andy Murray becomes the first man not named Roger or Rafa to hold a spot in the top two since forever. More importantly, Del Potro beat Roddick.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am enjoying Del Pony's hardcourt domination of Roddick v much.

lex pretend, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

Does it mean Del P gets his #5 ranking back? I know he lost a bunch of points in the second half of July. In fact, I'm happy to support Juan Martin today if it makes the difference... ;)

Michael Jones, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah, if he wins today he'll be back at no 5.

lex pretend, Sunday, 16 August 2009 10:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

How is Nadal doing post-injury? Lost an edge, or is it too early to tell?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 August 2009 10:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

he's only played two or three proper matches so yeah still rusty/cautious but he seems to be getting better everyday.

gonna be a great USO - with Murray at number 2, it's likely that Nadal will end up on the same half of the draw as Fed which is just weird to think abt. they've both been at the top for *ages*.

Roz, Sunday, 16 August 2009 11:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

henin to unretire

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 18:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

can only be a good thing

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have no problem with these comebacks, but geez, i wish these "i am gonna quit tennis"-people just announce a sabbatical instead.

also, on another forum i heard a theory that Henin will have a much more difficult time getting back in top shape, since "she's no athlete" and only got to number 1 after years and years and years of hard work.

otoh Clijsters had a kid.

Ludo, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Subconsciously, it might have had an impact," Henin said of Clijster's successful comeback. "But it certainly was not the most important reason."

loooool keep telling yourself that, honey

Roz, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Whatever the reasons this is good news.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Justine <3

This is only a good thing if we WIN THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN. And everything else. And get that Wimbledon title. And overtake Serena's Slam total.

I love the idea that she's only doing it to bully St. Kim again :D

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

exactly... like she'd ever let kim be the number one belgian. :P

Roz, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wonderful news. Unless it's a total failure and she runs out of wildcards after a few months.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

This is so hilarious! Welcome back, Justine!

sturdy, ultra-light, under-the-pants moneybelt (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

women's tennis is so fucked.

mizzell, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 21:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

3/1 To win 2010 French Open

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 10:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Need to point out that 38-yr-old Kimiko Date-Krumm - she will be 39 next month - has just reached the Seoul final, beating Kleybanova, Hantuchova (lol Hantuchova) and Kirilenko in consecutive three-setters! So happy for her. From the bits and pieces I've seen of her this year, her old-school flat strokes are still a joy to watch and she's still a superior athlete to many of the girls half her age. She'll play Groenefeld or Medina Garrigues in the final - surely either are winnable matches.

And the WTA used "age ain't nothing but a number" as the headline for their story :D

lex pretend, Saturday, 26 September 2009 09:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

lex pretend, Saturday, 26 September 2009 09:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

damnit Kei just fell away in the final couple of points

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:25 (1 week ago) Permalink

Second point of the final game was a treat though - angles and spins galore.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:27 (1 week ago) Permalink

my goodness, Murray's defence

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

bad job by andy in that tiebreak, smart of stan to just back up & let andy fuxx up

johnny crunch, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

what a bizarre collapse

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

this comparison strikes me as so obvious that surely it's been made before but Murray = ATP Jankovic in so many ways regarding needless and inexplicable psychodrama

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:28 (1 week ago) Permalink


lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

that's a great dog

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 20 November 2015 21:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

it is!

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 21:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

strange resolution there was hoping murray could get his shit together and get it to a 3rd

johnny crunch, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

it looked like he was going to for a second. pretty strange match but happy for Murray that his unpleasant week in London has been put out of its misery at last

really hope Stan and Roger reprise last year's dramatics, that was the one match I missed (the only one that was worth watching obv)

lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:12 (1 week ago) Permalink


lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:27 (6 days ago) Permalink

No bagel but that's more than enough to convince me that this will be over 6-3 6-2 so I can go to bed and get up early for Roger/Stan.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:53 (6 days ago) Permalink

Which I'm going to miss for the second year running -_-

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:58 (6 days ago) Permalink

lmao Novak toying with Rafa for fun in this game, these casual experiments in dropshot-lob combos and he wins both points anyway

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:33 (6 days ago) Permalink

H2H finally evened at 23-23!

Novak is 21-22 against Federer, got a chance to even that back this week.

And next year we take the lead in both H2Hs, hopefully :)

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:37 (6 days ago) Permalink

yea the drop shots were not good

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:57 (6 days ago) Permalink

rafas current game is 1 of the least likely to give novak trouble tbh, hes just not going to lose long rallies regularly

johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:59 (6 days ago) Permalink

23-23 vs Rafa
22-22 vs Fed

Fed got Dubai, Cincy and the YEC round robin
Nole got Wimbledon, the US Open, the YEC final (and IW and Rome)

Kind of amazing that their rivalry in 2015 breaks down so simply. Even two days after getting dominated by Federer in RR, the bookies had Nole as the heavy favourite today. Mediocre match though, to conclude another generally mediocre YEC (the two Nishikori three-setters notwithstanding)

lex pretend, Sunday, 22 November 2015 22:46 (5 days ago) Permalink

Has to be said that Novak's 2015 is probably the best season of the last two decades. Two more years like that and he's the GOAT, not Federer. I mean, how many M1000s has he won? It's insane, nobody's ever dominated that tier while also racking up the slams at such a rate.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Monday, 23 November 2015 00:40 (4 days ago) Permalink

@jrcunniff: Djokovic completes best year of career, going 82-6.

Earns 16,585 ranking pts out of possible 18,790.

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:53 (4 days ago) Permalink

@jrcunniff: Since the 2014 U.S. Open, Djokovic has played 20 events, won 14 of them, and compiled record of 99-7 (5-4 vs Federer, 94-3 vs all others)

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:54 (4 days ago) Permalink

Federer 2006 was 82-5 (losing to Nadal four times and Murray once). Fed had three consecutive years at 92% W/L or better; Djokovic has just posted his second (after 2011), Nadal has had one (2013).

They're all around 82% career-wise. It's a toss-up at this point. You'd fancy a rejuvenated Nadal to win one more Roland Garros before he quits, and Novak to win anywhere from three to eight more Slams before he reaches Roger's age. Roger might have a Wimbledon left in him.

They're still not Guillermo Vilas ;) (145-14 in 1977; never mind the %-age, feel the quantity)

I think Fed played ok yesterday, I'm just not sure how you attack someone who is hitting every backhand to within 30cm of the baseline.

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 November 2015 11:46 (4 days ago) Permalink

Djokovic's second 90%+ year, I mean.

Michael Jones, Monday, 23 November 2015 11:47 (4 days ago) Permalink

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