― kephm, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:44 (twenty years ago) link
no, you're not: i always figured this was the general consensus (the "oh the early stuff is always best!" hipster trope notwithstanding)
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:49 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link
Hitchcock and Herrmann might have something to say about that. Or Leone and Morricone. Or...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link
xpost
― kephm, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Mandee (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:42 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:15 (twenty years ago) link
Dud or Mediocre: everything else
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:30 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
The Terry Gilliam comparison's pretty interesting: Gilliam worked his way back into being allowed to write his own material after directing Twelve Monkeys/The Fisher King, and then blew it in one film (Fear and Loathing), and became box office poison (Lost in La Mancha), though now he's directing The Brothers Grimm (Heath Ledger/Matt Damon!) and Good Omens, both for next year. I don't know why Tim Burton gets more breaks.
! Ed Wood never got a film/director Oscar Nomination?
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
Fucking NO. Martin Landau did pick up an Oscar for best supporting actor -- I think deserved, though Samuel Jackson (this was the year of Pulp Fiction, remember) admitted he was sorta bored by Ed Wood and wished he'd won! Can't blame him!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link
thus no oscars
As noted, one Oscar.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
maybe there are rights complications that have prevented it from being released on dvd?
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago) link
ARAGAHDFASDFBAFA.
I think your duty is to ensure good people have access to this fine product.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:22 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 00:29 (twenty years ago) link
Sleepy Hollow was shockingly bad, even from the design point of view, surprisingly.
― R the bunged up with jollop of V (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 8 February 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 February 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 8 February 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link
If not, why not?
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 8 February 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago) link
please don't let him fuck up Maleficent
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Palmer/Gaiman would mop the street with Burton/Carter's asses.
― Kylie is a vacant Phifer (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:17 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark
please don't let Angelina Jolie fuck up Maleficent!
― big (surm), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/angelina-jolie-in-talks-to-play-wicked-godmother-in-sleeping-beauty-1970241
:(
― big (surm), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343971/David-Cameron-Helena-Bonham-Carter-New-Year-Hill-climb.html
― you got your TV, you got your dinner, you got your TV dinner (DavidM), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I only recently noticed that just about all of this guy's work has been remakes or reimaginings, all processed through the same kooky "Tim Burton, Auteur" filter. And I really, really want to say he's nothing but a big assembly-line hack, but then every few years he does something I like (Mars Attacks, Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd), which makes me think, huh, maybe this guy actually knows what he's doing. Which then in turn makes me think he's even more of a hack, for doing all the hacky stuff, when I know he's capable of better.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Two out of three of those were from scripts or source material he didn't write, which may explain something.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Zootopia was a pretty solid exception, wrt recent Disney Animation Studios.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
While I appreciate the sic-cyclopedia entry, I was speaking more about their recent tendency to lean hard on remakes and sequels of their own previous work as opposed to the familiar adaptations of non-Disney material. Between live action and animated films from 2017 through the end of this year, I count thirteen remakes/sequels of existing Disney properties, two newly-adapted properties (Nutcracker and Artemis Fowl), and one original film (Coco). It wasn't a whole helluva lot better in the years before that, but they were a little closer to a 50/50 split between 'fresh' material and autophagia.
― A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
presumably part of that tally is them buying things where new instalments link up, even if they’re not direct sequels? eg Marvel, Star Wars, vs historically “Disney”-branded stuffI count Pixar separately still, though they’ve obv become sequelier as they became more merged w/ Disney
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Sunday, 31 March 2019 23:58 (five years ago) link
Nah, I'm just counting movies that announce themselves proudly as a Walt Disney (or Pixar) production, no Lucasfilm or Marvel.
― A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 00:51 (five years ago) link
ooooof
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Monday, 1 April 2019 02:12 (five years ago) link
i'm not esp likely to ever see this, but a glance at the reviews shows it's not a "photocopy"
but keep thinkin Tarantella is original
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link
I'm never going to see this, but the biggest red flag is that the cartoon runs about an hour and this one runs about twice that.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 April 2019 03:13 (five years ago) link
meh, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 03:14 (five years ago) link
In case you failed to see it upthread...
Morbs, you temper your fabled vituperation over the weirdest things.
― WAS ACTING A FOOL AND FELL ON GRILL (Old Lunch), Friday, March 29, 2019 2:06 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link
Also golf clap for strawmanning all of the zero people in existence who ever called Tarantino original. Yeeeeesh.
― A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link
i was thinking about this yesterday and its now starting to make more sense to view Disney originals like...broadway musicals or whatever and these remakes as revivals.
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 1 April 2019 09:27 (five years ago) link
revivals which just happen to allow disney to extend the copyright on their properties
― mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 09:28 (five years ago) link
thus keeping alive the goose that lays the dollar-crammed eggs
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
I hope I live long enough to see like the fifth or sixth iteration of a Disney remake where it's just like this crude and barely recognizable rendition of Pinocchio standing in a stark white field for two hours and endlessly repeating 'Hi, I'm Pinocchio!' to the camera from a variety of angles.
― A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
Pinocchio (2042): Not as bad as I thought it might be, Pinocchio's enunciation was flawless, and Disney has really upped their game on the presentation of the glaring void in which all of their films are now set. *** + 1/2*
― A man of surgery, to remove the metal pellets from my flesh (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link
My greatest dream is somehow stripping Disney of all their copyrights and filming everyone crying who will be hit hard in the bank balance by this, so I can watch these crying videos everyday for immense sexual pleasure.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link
I can't believe he got Mars Attacks! made. I can't believe he assembled that cast.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link
really liked it when it came out and it goes up in my estimation every time i revisit, some kind of lunatic masterpiece
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link
that and Ed Wood have become my abiding favorites
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
i haven't seen it in years but every so often, the phrase "the international sign of the donut" pops into my head
― Roz, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link
It's definitely more Joe Dante than Tim Burton.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
Wednesday sucks, right? Is it just me? made it three episodes and decided "nah". the humor doesn't work at all and this cutesy goth thing is so played out.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 December 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
i was the opposite- i’m surprised by how much i really enjoy it … like there are a lot of dopey jokes and puns and fan service but the mystery is kinda compelling & i like all the main characters also there is a great scene where she dances to the Cramps “Goo Goo Muck”
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 December 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
clip here bc it’s truly excellent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE2bY2gOBhk
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 December 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link