Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

...I'm having too goddamn many opinions lately.

semi-interested in the 50s poll (though not informed enough to vote); not at all interested in Manics poll--sorry folks :(

I'm not joking about 3rd I don't really want to do it right this instant.

also we need a fixed time per poll. week? less?

is this thread only for artists, cause I was going to do a sort of esoteric year-one which I thought would fit kind of well into this, I know someone else wanted to do a genre one (though I think larger-scoped ones don't really belong here)

xp I suppose this thread is as good as any for working out a schedule

we could just create a new board for these and ppl could take them off their SNA page if they wanted to

can we call it I Love Metal?

lol

somebody just claim 1st already

be brave

I don't believe in being brave, ba ba ba ba

Ok, I'll do Pet Shop Boys

YES!!

g1

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. (???? mystery)
3. beach boys - iatee
4.

I'd say one a week is a good timespan? Gives enough time for votes to come in and for the countdown. Any more than that and you're running a low turnout risk I think.

Estimating my work schedule, I'm claiming #7: Led Zeppelin

Can I suggest that the polls are mixed up so that the subsequent act is in a totally different style/genre to the one before it.

e.g. Manics - PSB - (Zepellin?) - Beach Boys - Electronic act - Twee indie nonsense - token hip hop act

I think we need to create an Excel spreadsheet matrix

I agree with mixing them up.

I thought first was going to sd's poll winner?

that requires waiting

OK, I'll do the Beatles one.

Either at 2 or 4, depends what (??? mystery) means...

means it hadn't been claimed yet, so it's yours @ #2

Rocking

XTC can wait then, I'm busy atm anyway so

actually, having read the poll-troll thread ilx clearly hates fun so fuck it

that's the spirit! :)

The Beatles and XTC one after another wd def mix things up a bit

Beatles would be nice just to have an artist actually worth doing a poll for

Beatles...zzz. I mean, it would actually be fun because there are so many good songs, but it seems so played.

In their stead, I claim Madonna. Not sure where I am on the list—don't want #4—but I'll go later.

Actually, strike that. I don't want to handle a Madonna poll.

(My first choice of words was "I don't want to do Madonna", but there's really no good way to address that.)

Beatles would be nice just to have an artist actually worth doing a poll for

Worst Beatles song ever

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. __________
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

I can move Zep up to 5 or 6 if it fits the schedule better.

all of those should be great. anyone up to doing some producers or labels?

are we waiting for the Manics poll to finish before the PSB can begin?

Zep will be fun

I was going to wait until the polling closed in the Manic's thread, 22nd iirc and then start the PSB poll. The Manics reveal can go on while the PSB votes come in.

I Love Organised Music Polls

you are all so crazy

omg the Beach Boys one is gonna be impossible. looking forward to that one

hyped for the PSBs poll. expecting high placing for My Funny Uncle

Prince would be my no.1 choice for a future poll though i think, just because i like the discovery of rarities aspect, and with led zep and steely dan everyone who's a big fan sort of knows every track

true-ish, although Steely Dan has some great unreleased songs most people don't know that i'd be youtubing all over the place trying to drum up support for

what happens if someone starts a rogue ballot poll

eh like 5 xp

for the most part the dan aren't one of those 'treasure trove of unreleased stuff' bands. they have those early demos which aren't super interesting and then the gaucho stuff which is great but that's about it.

to me the interesting part of these threads isn't so much the 'which rarity might sneak in' as much as the enthusiastic discussion and dissection of 'why' these tracks are the best.

lol jordan

for the most part the dan aren't one of those 'treasure trove of unreleased stuff' bands. they have those early demos which aren't super interesting and then the gaucho stuff which is great but that's about it.

― iatee, Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

and "This All Too Mobile Home" and "Westside Story"!!! but yeah i see your point.

what happens if someone starts a rogue ballot poll

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

autobanned.

banished to the cape.

forced to post on wdyll in underwear.

Is this the status as of now still?

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. __________
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

Because I bailed on the Madonna idea, but Guided By Voices keeps nagging at me and I'm finally giving in. So put me down for Guided By Voices at #6.

agree *with* some dude

I feel like the classic rock poll is gonna be all time ILM

Grrrrr

Once again I'm outvoted. First y'all gang up and cyberbully me about including Eno in the Roxy poll. Now you heathens want to keep the classic rock poll "open" and "inclusionary. Scott Muni is rolling in his grave.

Just remember what the Louvin brothers said: That word "broadminded" is spelled S-I-N

haha what you mean like Eno solo albums in the Roxy poll? that's ridiculous

ime you should ignore the ILX hivemind's requests and just run the poll the way you want

Yes. Eno solo records in the Roxy poll. They're opening it up to Bryan Ferry, so why not? If it was good enough for Lou Reed, John Cale and Nico in the VU poll, it should be good enough for Eno. It is a DYNAMITE idea and I should be congratulated. Instead, all I get is scorn.

ime you should ignore the ILX hivemind's requests and just run the poll the way you want

Yes! By the way, I'm running the Elvis Costello poll under Vienna rules, in which the poll runner's #1 gets a 10,000 point bonus.

I thought Ferry was running as a separate side poll. Is it all just dropped into the same ballot? This is madness. Completely invalidates the proven-by-science nature of these polls.

Not convinced this actually worked for VU, hate it for Roxy, hate it even more for Genesis, and will vote in all of these anyway.

I'm okay with Stairway and Freebird in the classic rock poll since those always finished 1-2 in the annual classic rock radio countdowns.

it worked out okay for VU, I thought, altho I would have preferred my original solo-careers-only poll

Voting for them all together and separating out the results turned out to be pretty brilliant.

Oops, sorry some dude, didn't mean to put words in your mouth!

Voting for them all together and separating out the results turned out to be pretty brilliant.

― millions now living will never kick out the jams (WilliamC),

Agree.

Bee OK, I'll resume list maintenance on 1/1 if you want me to. (With a new thread, since we're right at 3000 posts.) Thanks for the break.

yes, as you really need to be a mod to run this thread properly. you're welcome.

And they pulled him out of the polled polled ground: Elvis Costello Poll Results

my last update:

A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished)
B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)
C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)
45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)
45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers (finished)
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez And they pulled him out of the polled polled ground: Elvis Costello Poll Results
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain
53. Outkast - The Reverend
54. Autechre - Leee
55. Brian Eno - WmC
56. Chic Organization - Donna Rouge
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom
58. Radiohead - nate woolls
59. Yo La Tengo/Dump - clemenza
60. P-Funk - Shakey Mo Collier
61. Stooges/Iggy Pop - flopson
62. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK
63. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier
64. Italo - daavid
65. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy
66. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt
67. “Epics” (non-classical division) - Leee
68. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life
69. Extreme Metal - Viceroy
70. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
71. Pixies - Johnny Fever
72. Metallica - Pleasant Plains
73. Spoon - Bee OK
74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
75. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
76. Queen - charlie h
77. Dinosaur Jr. - Z S
78. Tom Petty - rogermexico
79. Ramones - tipsy mothra
80. Jimi Hendrix - WmC
81. Sightings - Raymond Cummings
82. John Coltrane - Tarfumes the Escape Goat
83. Stereolab - Moka
84. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK
85. Genesis + solo - NickB
86. The Smiths - nate woolls
87. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl
88. The Burt Bacharach songbook - WilliamC
89. Dead C - Raymond Cummings
90. Royal Trux + side projects - Drugs A. Money
91. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
92. Rush - Matt #2
93. Oasis - darraghmac
94. George Michael - Ismael Klata
95. Talking Heads - Bee OK
96. Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
97. Stiff Records - Johnny Fever
98. Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
99. Low - aldo
100. Nine Inch Nails - chap
101. REM - rogermexico.
102. Bjork - Eric H.
103. Wu-Tang Clan - ― Spottie
104. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs)

- Bee OK

I'm gonna keep my place in line for Stiff Records, but I may change the topic at some point. Not sure it would be much of a draw after Stax only got 20-something ballots.

omg only roxy music then PINK FLOYD WILL RULE THEM ALL

:D

well and EOY polls too but w/e

:D
:D

In terms of stuff I listen to and can put together respectable ballots for, the first five out the gate are booming.

And bravo to Bee OK!

Man oh man still searching for some vestige of the top 2000 my local classic rock station did at the end of 1999. Not looking good yet tho

so this is happening after the end of the year polls?

― g simmel, Monday, December 23, 2013 9:51 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah...Classic Rock definitely won't get rolling until after the year-end poll is done in January, unless i decide to run a nominations/discussion thread for a bit before the official voting thread. didn't wanna overlap with that or the disco poll (plus I just ran two polls over the summer, so i'm not in a rush). don't care if the Roxy Music poll cuts in line ahead of me -- I feel like the big genre-spanning polls need longer windows for voting and everything else so it'll be a slow process.

I'll do a Byrds and offshoots poll which includes Gene Clark, Gram Parsons, David Crosby, Roger McGuinn and the rest

Actually, I'd like to do a "Covers" poll. All cover versions of previously recorded songs. That could be fun.

I'm gonna keep my place in line for Stiff Records, but I may change the topic at some point. Not sure it would be much of a draw after Stax only got 20-something ballots.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, December 27, 2013 5:55 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

More like 10 :(

don't care if the Roxy Music poll cuts in line ahead of me

great idea. also i didn't want to mess with the numbers, as we have 'B' whenever necessary. Velvet Underground (plus) was the only thing that got moved under my watch.

and yes ILM Classic Rock Poll is going to be massive.

thanks Doctor Casino!

OK, PF poll on the tarmac and ready to roll...

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Giving up Classic Rock may prove my greatest regret as an ilxor, I have great feelings about that poll. But SD will def do a better job (my track record on these things is pretty iffy). Hopefully I can get it together by the time of the grand Billy Joel Poel.

i will sit at the bar and put bread in yr jar iirc

i heard that damn song at the grocery store today and it made me want to yell at someone. looking forward to classic rock memory lane poll tbrr. can't wait to see how high "burnin for you" places. Time to play ~b-sides~.

Giving up Classic Rock may prove my greatest regret as an ilxor, I have great feelings about that poll. But SD will def do a better job (my track record on these things is pretty iffy). Hopefully I can get it together by the time of the grand Billy Joel Poel.

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha listen man if you wanted to grab the steering wheel or split some duties, i'd have no problem with that, totally your call.

Can I claim 105 for a New Pornographers/AC Newman tracks and albums poll?

re: this thread new New Pornographers

Ha, thanks SD but I don't wanna be captain take-back. Would be decidedly un-rock, anyway!

Piano Man discussion does remind me that 'worst' classic rock would be a great, long ballot in and of itself.

American Pie would win that.

I'm gonna keep my place in line for Stiff Records, but I may change the topic at some point. Not sure it would be much of a draw after Stax only got 20-something ballots.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, December 27, 2013 12:55 AM

In the next master list update, can you change the Stiff poll to a Van Halen poll? Because VAN FUCKING HALEN.

YEEEEEESSSS

I'm going to start a new thread on 1/1 and will make that change, plus the Byrds, covers, New Pornographers additions.

thx boss

Piano Man discussion does remind me that 'worst' classic rock would be a great, long ballot in and of itself.

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, December 28, 2013 4:13 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good point, i should definitely have a top 5 "most bad and hated" subpoll or something.

I'm going to start a new thread on 1/1 and will make that change, plus the Byrds, covers,

Uh, I meant covers instead of Byrds. I can do Byrds sometime down the road, but would rather not do back to back polls.

New thread:
ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc