ok Madonna was a dumb omission -- i meant to put her in there and forgot
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i am speaking in terms of ILM's enthusiasm for female artists, not my own
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
I would vote in most of these and enjoy all of them. polling producers seems like a great idea. voted Timbaland
Lee Perry? Phil Spector? is anyone else big enough for this? Marley Mar? Teddy Riley? Thom Bell? Holland–Dozier–Holland?
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
other, beach boys
― iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
A PJ Harvey poll I'd def. vote in.
― nate woolls, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
You could probably get a decent turnout for a Janet Jackson poll, too.
Bjork has the catalog but I'm not sure as many ppl are invested in her.
Also maybe Sade and PJ Harvey, or a Kathleen Hanna poll (maybe cheating?)
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
Voted kast, after that prob prince or jay -- we've already had enough Beatles polls
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
i'd love a beach boys poll.
also, i love these polls - great excuse to trawl through and discuss bands a lot of people like.
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
Sade? on ILM? that's reaching.
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
I was actually thinking of a timbo ballot poll the other day -- they kinda thing would prob be more fun
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
i'd vote in all these radiohead and talking heads polls too. and boo radleys, obv.
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
Probably wouldn't vote in it but would definitely follow a Joni poll.
― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah a producer is stretching the 'single artist' concept but would totally be more fun, especially Timbo. or maybe Eno, i should've put him in there too.
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
seriously, radiohead would really suit a poll - plenty of material spanning several years and styles. lots of b-sides and obscurities for people to geek over. no consensus album (really).
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
Joni Mitchell another possibility
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
Destiny's Child would get a big turnout, even bigger if you included the solo careers and the juggernaut that is ILM's feelings about Beyonce.
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
another write-in = aphex, obv.
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
frankly I think these things are pretty unnecessary
where's the harm?
― i love the smell of facepalm in the morning (ledge), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
hey before the flood can we make a rule that only one of these can go on at once
― iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
seeing all the polls done so far my reaction has been part eye-roll, part relief that i don't have to invest any time in them
there are only a few artists on this list i'd change that for tbh (jay-z, neptunes, timbaland)
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
after watching a Pavement poll get more voters than a poll of the entire genre of hip hop, attempting a Beyonce/DC poll would just be depressing tbh
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
Kinda with lex on that one. Don't like the idea of the polls, even for artists I like.
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
joni mitchell and kate bush seem obvious choices. pj harvey too, but it always feels a bit odd doing massive retrospective projects when the artist is still so active (and still at their creative peak, so to speak, unlike eg timbaland).
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
jay and kast would be super fun. and peej/bush/madonna/joni as people have mentioned. wu maybe too discussed already on ilm. coltrane/prince would be the nuts. dr. dre only has two albums and i don't know if he has enough production classics to really do this... maybe an nwa members poll. just don't seem to care about the indie or canon rock choices - maybe bowie.
overall though, on a learning and interest basis - stevie.
my choice from who is missing from the poll: GIL SCOTT HERON
― ladywood (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:05 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
man wut? sb ilm.
There was a Pavement poll? Ugh.
But point taken. Thing is, the posters who love the stuff I'd love to see a top 50 of are precisely the ppl who would never participate in such a boring fanboy exercise as writing out ballots and spreadsheets.
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
I like the idea of all these fine. I didn't engage in the pavement poll but found it neat to see the final list. I suggest someone else start all these polls at once and deliver me the stats forthwith
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
― i love the smell of facepalm in the morning (ledge), Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:04 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
no harm obviously, but -- and i've said this before so excuse me repeating myself -- a lot of these artists you could pretty easily whittle down to a regular poll thread of their 50 most beloved songs without all the fanfare. also elevating some indie band that was only together for a decade to the level of oh we need to rank half their catalog is just kinda ridic.
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
ughhhh ilm :(
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
Prince or Timbo would probably be the most fun -- i'd probably get the most personal enjoyment out of a Sonic Youth one but as i've said it'd be nice to depart from the indie canon
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
too many at one time, predictable results, bit depressing seeing new answers topped by threads reinforcing ILM's indie-centricity (based on the bands that get this treatment first)
― blueski, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
lex you never voted! still :( about that - would have loved to have seen you get involved
― ladywood (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
I've actually been hoping you wd do a Sonic Youth one, sd, but hopefully it would get less ballots than the hip hop poll
― best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
i just got too busy and then the deadline passed and then i couldn't face clicking on (1500 new answers)
xp
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
ILX goes through these phases of liking certain kinds of discourse WWAAAAAYYYY too much for a period and then forgetting all about it.
I mean, I certainly prefer these kinds of polls, which tend to keep to 2 maybe 3 threads, easily ignored, to that weird hockey league thing it went through a couple of years back where you couldn't even load new answers for the 200 threads about, like, what was the best kind of sandwich. :-/
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
what's wrong with letting people have fun the way they want? since when has ilm been "indie-centric"?
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
i still don't know the results of the hip-hop poll - obv i am assuming shawnna won
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of these artists you could pretty easily whittle down to a regular poll thread of their 50 most beloved songs without all the fanfare
the fanfare is all the fun - it's about the process, not the result, an excuse to get reacquainted with an old favourite that you might not have thought too much about recently, to share the craic with some like-minded people.
also complaining about a preponderance (hardly) of threads you have no interest in seems like the weakest first-world problem imaginable (speaking as someone who thought the plethora of rolling metal threads was RIDICULOUS)
― i love the smell of facepalm in the morning (ledge), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
why are people surprised that a poll that required a knowledge of like 100 songs got more votes than a poll for an entire genre. I wouldn't be shocked if the Pavement poll would have more votes than an ALL-TIME INDIE ROCK poll, which sounds like a more frustrating list to compile
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
I partially didn't vote in the hip-hop poll because I didn't have time, but a large proportion of it was that I felt like my choices would be belittled and my voice dismissed by the group of regulars who dominate that genre on this board. So I'm not that surprised that the Pavement poll was more popular. Didn't vote in that one either, mind you, but I'm not a fan of the single-artist old-style polls.
― emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
I can't satisfactorily explain why but the possibility that people might sit down to vote on the entire recorded output of the Boo Radleys fills me with despair, dread, horror
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
I would totally take part and or be interested in:The BeatlesThe CureMiles DavisNeil YoungThe Rolling StonesSonic YouthSteely DanThe Velvet UndergroundWu Tang Clan
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
I love Guided by Voices, but I think that would be a pretty much pointless exercise.
and the point to the others?
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
you couldn't even load new answers for the 200 threads about, like, what was the best kind of sandwich. :-/
I apologize for nothing.
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
the thing is to take part in this kind of exhaustive poll, you really need to know the ins and outs of an act's catalogue pretty well - which rules me out of most older "canon" acts bar a joni here or madonna there. i'd totally be up for björk (and would think there's definitely enough love for that to be viable) or tori amos (to whom ilm has pretty much been entirely resistent, bafflingly - surely the only artist for whom the tim finney stamp of approval has failed to work - we did album polls for her and garnered like 6 voters in each :( )
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
what is the best sandwich? did we ever find out?
POLL!
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
worst track polls for all would be more in ILM's spirit lol
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think the despair, dread, horror requires no explanation. i thought that was a joke to begin with :/
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:04 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
― iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
"hey most of us who'd be enthusiastic about a Prince poll sure as hell don't own every Prince album (although i'd definitely be taking tips from the obsessives who can recommend the good stuff from his later periods)"
cosign. also i'd be totality down for a bowie poll, i just read a biography of him listened to a bunch of his albums i hadn't heard yet/in a while, + he's got an long awesome career with loads of different phases, highlights, awesome-but-obscure album tracks etc
― messiahwannabe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
Nick Cave― President Keyes, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:25
― President Keyes, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:25
cosign
― some greenzo (onimo), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
Not sure how successful the manics one is going to be xp - there are only about a dozen posters on that thread (i.e. vote, and help a brother out). That said, Pavement getting 40 ballots amazed me, especially when the whole of hip hop didn't.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
Pavement one got 60 votes, didn't it?
― cr?m margera (some dude), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link
ok 57 to be exact
― cr?m margera (some dude), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
Well I'm astonished. Not complaining, note - I figured it wasn't for me & let it pass me by.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link
was kind of hilarious, i thought, given that people complained / lolbrits at the blur poll, that anyone thought the correct next thing to do was ... pavement
― thomp, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
i know right!
― cr?m margera (some dude), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 13:17 (twelve years ago) link
the essence of the American spirit right there
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link
Malkmus complained that when Pavement was doing press for a UK tour (97? 98?) all they were asked about was their opinion on Blur.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure johnny fever explicitly said that he picked pavement because they were sorta the u.s. equivalent of blur. just sayin
― so confused (blank), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
and the people complaining about lolbrits polls are the same people complaining about any old ballot poll, right?
I couldn't find this thread when I posted in the thread where we suggest/plan which polls should go in which order, but I posted an .xls which should make this polling business easier for anyone who wants to play. Yay!!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― blueski, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
"nothing" defeated 82-19 by my count.
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
In that case we need to have a "something" poll
― i wanna be yr rhizome (seandalai), Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://a4.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/32/63cf1c95856048c6a85d2ec0da864a46/l.jpg
― I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
lol, zilch for the Stones
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
i feel vindicated
― cr?m margera (some dude), Thursday, 23 June 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
I'll start a Stevie Wonder poll regardless of these results.
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
Some year.
Richard Thompson
― the presidential candidate inside me (WmC), Thursday, 30 June 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
or Sandy Denny. Her oeuvre is a sprawling mess filled with side projects, appearances on others' records, one-shot bands, incomplete works, etc., and that's before we even get to her scopious role in Fairport Convention's heyday. Which of course makes for a great ballot poll.
― Lee547 (Lee626), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link
Yardbirds, anyone? Not around for long, but as with the recently-polled Beach Boys alot of their best stuff is obscurities unknown to casual fans. Also, there have been about 25 different best-of compilations and not one is all-inclusive or well chosen IMO.
― Lee547 (Lee626), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
Ke$ha i think
― prego, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
i think a yardbirds one would be great
― jesus & ramona (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
Sisqo poll would own all polls for life
― billstevejim, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ OTM Sisqo poll now IMO
― billstevejim, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
that would be kind of funny, when "Thong Song" got all the votes and everything else got bageled
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
#1 Wild Wild West
― billstevejim, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
like I said
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
Really surprised Jimi Hendrix's name hasn't come up on this or the order/timing thread.
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
well, if people thought even Zep had almost too small a catalog to poll...
― some dude, Monday, 19 September 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
we need Madonna and Roxy Music in that there poll.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
Pulling together all the posthumously released stuff, Hendrix's catalog gets a lot bigger, but yeah, point taken. Still, it would be interesting to see what the top 10 or 15 looked like.
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
the Madonna poll is cursed. don't even speak of it.
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
it really will be kind of momentous and cathartic whenever it finally happens
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
surely there's been a stones poll already
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
Not a ballot poll. These things are a fairly recent development on ILM iirc.
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link