Eazily I approach, the 100 GREATEST RAP (OR HIP HOP OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT) TRACKS OF THE GODS because I ain't no joke.

Agree ^

ya xp s_o_d

idk y but its not interesting to read abt how some ilm random never really got epmd or how "can i kick it" is only their third fav tribe single prefer it when ilm lists explode into flameouts abt whats corny & rly peel back the layers of self-hatred -- mb its just me & u guys are relaxin at work tho, im on summer vacation shouldnt even be anywhere near here

It should be noted that most of the people who usually lead to thread blow-ups aren't posting in this thread.

come back whiney all is forgiven!

Get lex and Geir in here too while we're at it.

thing about the first half of a poll is you can only get so pissed off because you don't know whether top 50 or whatever has the stuff you think it should

someone made the prescient comment on the albs poll that singles would be less contentious

I don't mind the goodtime vibe up in here

gonna be interesting to see who placed on the albums poll but not on the tracks poll, I think

― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 4:47 PM (1 hour ago)

on a related note i'll be shocked and saddened if 50 gets shut out

eh, I won't

I voted for one 50 track, but really low.

And if I had a do over, he probably wouldn't have made it.

conversely if say "Wanksta" ends up top 10 I renounce you all

50 is very very important to his era, but not so much to the big picture (also my entire singles ballot was '80s and '90s, effectively before his career began)

#1 will be lucas with the lid off, calling it now

50 is awful

thanks for the insight, dude who never heard any boot camp click til this week

yeah how the hell had shakey not heard of BCC i thought he was a super 90s nyc rap stan in like every other thread

dunno what would have given you that impression

also you are welcome

also that's not entirely true I remember hearing the first Smif-n-Wessun album, it was Black Moon I hadn't heard.

50 is under-appreciated btw. I like his music more now than I did in the mid 00s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FhVdohucJ4

would have voted this if i didnt vote for only 20

I almost voted 'If I Can't'

It might have been the last one I cut out.

that was my fav on grodt

will the revelation that dj quik produced the drums on 'in da club' resuscitate 50's rep w/ ilx

i remember when 'in da club' was just a leaked mp3 -- i played it like 20x in a row. the beat was incredible

of course, it became unavoidable for 3 years afterward, which sorta drove it into the ground, but still an exceptional song imo

that just makes me disappointed in quik, h8 those drums

posts v much in character

those drums sound amazing btw

Ha, was just thinking about that Quik point and about In Da Club in general. Its definitely too ubiquitous for me to really appreciate anymore, but yah, sit and listen to it and you realize the greatness.

I went back and listened after the Quik revelation and you can totally hear it, no wonder I like(d) it so much, no wonder it springs like that.

How can you hate those drums?

i don't like the snare/clap kind of lurches and clomps and the kick just mirrors the string riff -- also texturally feels like the moment when 'expensive' Aftermath production started to resemble generic TV show music bed rap beats (xpost)

That snare/clap is Quik's signature sound.

which of his signature songs can it be heard on

So many ways, let's get down, luv of my life.

Off the top, driving home now.

We still party, I don't wanna party with you

Maybe not his "signature sound" but a technique/sound he uses pretty often.

This was the peak of gunit production fuiud

o_O that isn't even the best beat on GRODT

serioulsy... beats from Poor Lil Rich, What Up Gangsta, Poppin Them Thangs, How We Do, On Fire >>> In Da Club beat

yeah that's crazy deej

it's an iconic beat but i don't think it's the best

I didn't mean this beat in particular, I was disagreeing w al saying this was the beginning if the end. But that said yall are way underrating it here bcuz it was overplayed

i didn't say it was the beginning of the end of anything, just that it was a point when the Dre/Aftermath sound kinda got too shiny and expensive for my taste -- obviously the G-Unit sound was just developing and merging with that into something new at that point

Yah I mean I remember thinking this beat was easily the best on the record when it first leaked, before it was a single. I don't think that any more but I think we're def underrating it if u think poppin them things is better

50 is awful

― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:40 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thanks for the insight, dude who never heard any boot camp click til this week

― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:46 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

"In da Club" is one of my favorite rap beats ever

eh it's best when the one is married to the other ennit

Of course, but content on its own goes a lot further than technique on its own. (And that's not even to say that Kanye doesn't have technique. He does. He's just, um, non-traditional.)

Also, the perfect marriage of technique and content would probably make for a pretty boring song. Artist's flaws and failures are often their most compelling aspects. There's something about Kanye's rap delivery that's totally punk rock, and I feel like he recognizes that and uses it to his advantage. Every song he's on, he raps in his voice--there's no mistaking it. You can't even say that about his production.

(Preparing to get berated in 3... 2... 1...)

Gimme The Loot is still p much the most shocking thing hiphop has done

Why?

I just assumed that they'd have been on the same page Coldcut-wise, back in the day. Maybe they were. Maybe he's changed.

Nah, R thought (or claimed to think) it was great at the time. The biggest mystery is why Eric was so butthurt about it when he didn’t actually produce the records.

Missy toured here less than a year ago (she was terrible)

The Flashing Lights version with R Kelly on it is fantastic, but I think Kells might have just done it himself, rather than it being an official remix..?

I've never really known what's the deal about the production Paid in Full... IIRC, in the album sleeve Marley Marl is credited as a remixer on two of the tracks (not "Paid in Full", though), and some other guy is credited as the producer of "Move the Crowd", and everything else is credited to Eric B. & Rakim. So are you saying that Marley Marl produced the whole album but didn't get the credit? Or that Rakim produced it and Eric B. only did the scratches?