Eazily I approach, the 100 GREATEST RAP (OR HIP HOP OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT) TRACKS OF THE GODS because I ain't no joke.

Voted Come Clean, Spottieottiedopalicious, and What's Up Fatlip?

Not mad at anything so far, really. Love a lot of it, esp When Will They Shoot, Broken Language and Eye Know. Heltah Skeltah's the only thing I haven't heard, and it sounds good (though if it's in there over I Got Cha Opin or Who Got Da Props I will be ril ril mad.)

95. OutKast – Spottieottiedopalicious [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 127 points, 1998]
89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]
86. Smoothe da Hustler ft. Trigger tha Gambler - Broken Language [4 votes, 146 points, 1996]
83. Heltah Skeltah ft. OGC - Lefleuf Leflah Eskoshka [4 votes, 151 points, 1995]

Voted for these but thought I had 'Put It On' in my list too, whoops.

voted for

95. OutKast – Spottieottiedopalicious [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 127 points, 1998]
94. T.I. - Rubberband Man [5 votes, 128 points, 2003]
91. Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Tha Crossroads [5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 134 points, 1995]
90. EPMD - You Gots To Chill [4 votes, 139 points, 1988]
77. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. [6 votes, 156 points, 1999]

cool list

Look at that, three/four Spottieottiedopalicious voters in a row. I think that's bingo.

Nothing I voted made out although w one exception I didn't vote at all strategically

been good so far, ones I placed are

100. Boogie Down Productions - The Bridge Is Over [5 votes, 125 points, 1986] (#10 on my ballot)
96. Fat Lip - What's Up Fat Lip [5 votes, 126 points, 2000] (tie w/ #97) (#16 on my ballot)
93. Skee-Lo - I Wish [6 votes, 128 points, 1995] (tie w/ #94) (#47 on my ballot)
92. EPMD - Strictly Business [4 votes, 133 points, 1988] (#12 on my ballot)
84. Naughty by Nature - O.P.P. [8 votes, 150 points, 1991] (#45 on my ballot)

kinda suprised "you gots to chill" beat out "strictly business" maybe ppl got confused haw

Nothing I voted made out although w one exception I didn't vote at all strategically

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made me lol

it is strange how Big Pimpin's cultural moment just totally passed me by - never heard it on the radio, never heard it at a party, never heard it in somebody else's car - it's like it only exists retroactively for me

how is that even possible

yeah thats crazy

'Shakey: the Martian Colony years'

I dunno, not a lot of Jay-Z fans in San Francisco, what can I say

I vivdly remember two conversations about that song from my childhood (one was an older kid explaining what BLADs were)

Bay Area has always struck me as remarkably insular when it comes to hip hop, even to this day

xp

Glad to see "When Will They Shoot" placed. that song is GOAT.

Big pimpin was huge. No way that bypassed the bay

I don't know. I missed it too. I was in SF in 2000, listening to the radio.

tbf radio WAS far more regional in 2000 than it is now

It could be me. I feel like I never really "got" Big Pimpin' anyway. I remember tons of Cash Money on the radio at that time.

I've always felt like when I turn on hip hop radio here I do not hear anything but west coast + southern stuff and that was true back then as well. I mean obviously I missed something but it's not like I made an effort to avoid it or anything, Jay-Z just didn't register - if anything was blasting through the neighborhood it was shit like 2Pac, Spice 1, Mac Dre, E-40, Too $hort, Luniz, Keak Da Sneak etc. plus maybe "Ugh (na na na na)" lol (PG OTM about the Bay always making time for Cash Money, plus dudes like T.I., David Banner)

now that I think of it maybe it's just a holdover of the 2Pac/Biggie beef

That def sounds right to me from what I remember. They shy away from East Coast stuff. I grew up in Cali and have lived in NYC for 9 years. It took me moving out here to start really digging into NYC rap.

Spotify playlist: http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/3Gre0dm7q3UC0vQfspoPRu

Never thought of big pimpin as nyc rap, it was all over mtv etc and was straight pop

plus its got ugk and timbo

I haven't watched MTV since Yo! MTV Raps went off the air. UGK didn't get the Bay Area exposure that the New Orleans/Cash Money stuff did, for some reason, I only found out about them years after the fact (lol Outkast namedropping)

Only one song for me so far: Still D.R.E.

xxpost Making a different point, guys. Settle down.

I'm not gonna argue that Big Pimpin is not a pop song (obviously it is) but in terms of radio programming and regional popularity in the Bay, the more I think about it I'm inclined to think that the Pac/Biggie murders really are the key thing... listening to/promoting east coast stuff seems border-line heretical around here. 2Pac is like a patron saint. Even years after the fact I can easily imagine how Bay Area stations wouldn't be super-keen on promoting one of Biggie's buddies, no matter how pop. Pac seems to have rather clearly lost the legacy sweepstakes for the rest of the country though - Biggie's revered as one of the greatest rappers of all-time, Pac is kind of a footnote, an also-ran. (I don't give a shit about either of them, tbh)

I don't think Pac is a footnote at all, given the ridiculous amount of posthumous stuff released (not to mention the "Tupac is still alive" stuff)

it's not like that posthumous stuff is doing his catalog any favors though. it's just cash-in shit.

who is it that actually cashed in btw? is it all suge? family? or?

pac was bigger in chicago than biggie

im not claiming to know what the bay was like fwiw -- i would just be genuinely surprised if big pimpin didnt have a pretty big profile & im not sure if shakey's detachment i.e. not watching MTV might be coloring his interpretation of the bay's bay-centric-ness

also virtually everyone ive talked to sees circa 2000 bay music as pretty much the worst era for bay rap

who is it that actually cashed in btw? is it all suge? family? or?

I don't really know ... would assume it's suge, dude has bills to pay

circa 2000 bay music as pretty much the worst era for bay rap

not gonna contest this point lol

wasn't mama pac behind the posthum stuff

i am the final spottieottiedopaliscious voter

defeat me and you will go on to battle your rival, gary

"i wish" was in my top 10 because "i wish" is the best, also voted "what's up fatlip" and "shimmy shimmy ya" and "party and bullshit"

It's weird how some of this just passed me by for some reason I've never heard any Big L stuff but I've heard bits of that song as samples in a lot of places.

I always have stages where I'm not paying attention to rap music for a while and then get back into it and try to catch up, and some things just never click. Tupac, Boot Camp, Bone Thugs, and Chronic 2001 don't do anything for me at all; I couldn't get into them retroactively for some reason.

wasn't mama pac behind the posthum stuff

only a couple bits of it iirc. even if she was involved with anything on "Tha" Row, one can bet she wasn't paid.

no, looks like I'm wrong, and she was behind all the "remixed from Makaveli masters" and "edited to say G-Unit instead of Snoop Dogg" type nonsense.

3 of my noms so far, (eye know, opp, rapper's delight). Should have voted.

mike t-diva's Spotify playlist comes up blank on my computer so here's an alternative I was working on during the rollout (everything available except BIG, De La and Fat Lip).

http://open.spotify.com/user/dorianlynskey/playlist/0iJcQ4wdgCOURbEHP0wbCD

voted for:

96. Fat Lip - What's Up Fat Lip [5 votes, 126 points, 2000]
89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]
87. Ludacris - Southern Hospitality [6 votes, 143 points, 2000]
86. Smoothe da Hustler ft. Trigger tha Gambler - Broken Language [4 votes, 146 points, 1996]
83. Heltah Skeltah ft. OGC - Lefleuf Leflah Eskoshka [4 votes, 151 points, 1995]
79. Jay-Z ft. U.G.K. – Big Pimpin’ [5 votes, 154 points, 1999]
78. The Notorious B.I.G. - Party and Bullshit [5 votes, 156 points, 1993]
76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

rest of the list is great too, tons of songs on my shortlist

Great results so far.

Hazarding a guess at the top 20: Juicy, Follow the Leader, Paid in Full, Shook Ones Part II, Gin & Juice, CREAM, TROY, It Was a Good Day, Mind Playing Tricks on Me, How I Could Just Kill a Man, Triumph, Flava in Ya Ear, The Message, Straight Outta Compton, Passing Me By, something else from Dre, something from Tribe, something from Jay-Z, and a couple of PE tracks. Based on my album predictions I'm probably wrong but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.

i think ante up will be top 20. and nuthing but a g thang.

Goddamn this list is taking me on a nostalgic tour through my childhood. But I'm ashamed to admit that I had never heard that Ice Cube song and it is THE MOST BADASS THING EVER. Don't know how I avoided diving into his discography despite loving Today was a good day, which I placed pretty high

Voted so far:
94. T.I. - Rubberband Man [5 votes, 128 points, 2003]
77. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. [6 votes, 156 points, 1999]
76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

oh, and la di da di xp

Yes, I think you're right. I was tapping these out from memory on my phone last night and knew I'd forget a couple of obvious ones. Feel like I'm underrating 80s Def Jam too but not sure if there's an unchallenged Run-DMC or Beastie Boys pick. With the likes of Mobb Deep or the Geto Boys there's really only one consensus contender. From the 00s, maybe What You Know as well? I can't see 99 Problems, Get Ur Freak On or BOB having quite the same impact in this context that they would in a cross-genre best-of-00s poll. But I expect (and hope) to be surprised in all kinds of ways.