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call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

JIMMY V

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

that's awesome!

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Thinking about getting either an iBook or Kindle download of this, but a) does it have photo sections? and b) if it does, would those be included in the ebook?

what made my hamburger disappear (WmC), Friday, 3 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

yes to a) but it's only maybe 15 pages & nothing u prob havent seen or cant find on the internet

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 June 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

b) yes, but i always find the pictures to be difficult to look at on my Kindle. I bought the real thing here. It's a fucking doorstop.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Friday, 3 June 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'll be buying it for the iPad, so they should look good there. Thanks!

what made my hamburger disappear (WmC), Friday, 3 June 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

its a super quick read tho, ive read like 300 pgs in a week

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 June 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Picked it up today, WOOOHOOOO

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 June 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link

Katie Ross chapter is prettty interesting.

Alltime-Ugh-Award winner has to be Bill Creasy:

We did have some women on air and on staff, but we certainly were looking for more. I'm a great believer in having a lot of women around you while you work. That was my track record at CBS. I like the idea of having female talent and female executives. I know it's quite sexist, but when you have a pretty girl around the office, it's a little bit happier than having an ugly girl. And if that pretty girl is good, then you've just sort of added to the tree of your growth. I firmly believe that.

There is nothing in that statement that doesn't read Ike a double entendre.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 June 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

Karie, not Katie

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 June 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

So far my biggest takeaway is that irl Ted Turner is not as far removed from Wil Forte's buffalo-riding Ted Turner on Conan as I would have believed.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 June 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

Bob Knight:
They gave me three people to choose from who would do that interview, and I picked Schaap because of his dad. I didn't even know the kid. I had Digger tell Schaap that there was a question that I'd like for him to ask, and he refused to ask it. He told Digger, "I can't do that. I can't ask something that he wants asked." I didn't enjoy the interview at all. I thought the guy was a chickenshit little cocksucker. Forget that guy. I have no interest in talking about that. Jesus Christ, enough of this bullshit.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

It's like that Olbermann quote: "I dont burn bridges, I burn rivers." For a grown man he really is a fucking child

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Enjoying this so far. I wish it had an index.

what made my hamburger disappear (WmC), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

Found some of the business dealings way more interesting than I expected

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

Enjoying this so far. I wish it had an index.

― what made my hamburger disappear (WmC), Tuesday, June 7, 2011 1:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mine does.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting that they would leave that out of the ebook. I know I can do a text search for any terms I think of, but it would be cool to be able to browse the index if they've gone to the trouble to create it.

what made my hamburger disappear (WmC), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

Up to chapter 7. I'm not going to go to the SNL book to check, but it seems like this one has a good bit more 3rd-person interstitial material between the oral history/interview segments to make it flow better.

So many brilliant assholes.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 03:46 (twelve years ago) link

lol

i finished it yesterday. is really grossly congratulatory (& boring) in a lot of the italicized narrative esp as it gets to modern day. idk, anyone reading this prob already knows espn is monolithic & ridiculously powerful, etc...i think maybe im not entirely a fan of the oral history style done to this extreme -- its just a written vers of an episode of i love the 90s w/o funny one-liners

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

Halfway through. Just finished the part about the Rome-Everett fiasco.

favorite guy so far: walsh. Least favorite: tie between john lack and steve bornstein. The egos on the latter two would make you think one cured cancer, the other AIDS.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 20 June 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

oh u just wait for mark shapiro if you want to see some ego at work.

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

shapiro seems like an egomaniac mechagodzilla, jesus. cannot imagine working under him.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 June 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

I wanted to climb into the book to strangle Shapiro a couple of times.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Monday, 20 June 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I think one of the questions I had going into this book was "when did ESPN start turning into the overbearing thing that I still watch for the handful of things it does really indisputably well but ignore the rest of" and the book answered resoundingly, "Shapiro!" It was also nice to see I was not the only person who was really sad when NFL Primetime went away.

C-L, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

This book also jogged my memory that people once actually gave a shit about the America's Cup.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

America's Cup is about to have a huge impact on the SF waterfront, for what it's worth. A bunch of businesses are being forced to close or relocate.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i'm still slogging my way through this gd thing.

i really thought it would be more fun!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

I liked the business aspects of it. It wasnt as salacious as promised, which is fine. There are some serious egos involved with this company (shocking). I think Steve Bornstein and Chris Berman need to be shot. Erin Andrews (and the authors) have a much higher opinion of her own worth than is accurate. Shapiro was actually pretty entertaining. As was the guy at the beginning who worked for Getty whose name escapes me.

Overall a decent book. Doesnt seem movie-worthy though.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

watching the last olbermann show was strong reinforcement that i wasnt missing much by never watching this

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 July 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It was also nice to see I was not the only person who was really sad when NFL Primetime went away.

― C-L, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm still upset by this, lol. When did that show go away, 2000? I never warmed up to the NFL Network show due to Deon Sanders/Warren Sapp/Michael Irvin sidekicks. I always liked Tom Jackson in that role.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

NFL Primetime was awesome!!

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link


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