The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/may/29/critics-notebook-alexis-petridis

I agree with everything he said. Staggering Noosha Fox - Ben Goldacre fact, too.

non voglio parlarne (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 May 2011 07:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sailor are Roxy-lite, but you can bet that Ferry wishes he'd written 'A Glass of Champagne'.
I like the idea that R&B/hip hop in 2011 is in the same state as glam in 1976 - a style left to second tier chancers after the real innovators have long since moved on.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Monday, 30 May 2011 09:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Catching up with last week's. thought I'd acclimatised to this strange world, then they start off with close-up on golliwog logo.

This is my favourite thing on television at the moment.

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh dear... Heavy Metal Kids

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Holton is like a UK Woolworth's version of Alice Cooper.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

The naff disco really kicked in at this point, didn't it?

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure that the dream Iggy had that inspired 'TVC15' didn't look like Ruby Flipper's interpretation.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jesus fuck, Heavy Metal Kids.
how did punk ever happen after that? how could that not make every youth in the country immediately swear never to make chugging pub rock with out-of-tune faux-working class vocals?

</reductive mis-analysis of the trends of 35 years ago>

also sadface because "Heavy Metal Kids" made me think of Kraftwerk with Rother and Dinger. But still, Archie Bell and the Drells!

(did the presenters get to choose the acts? last week's was very conspicuously all white, in rather stark contrast to the acts pictured in the chart rundown at the start, so this week's was a refreshing change after that. wondered if JS should get any credit for that or if I should continue to be skeeved out by him)

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 2 June 2011 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think that the presenters had any real say in who was on. By the mid 70's the producers of TOTP had to pick from whoever was available, the programme not being able to get the big hitters like Bowie or the Stones. Hence the procession of uninspired soul/disco groups, Ruby Flipper, videotapes of MOR stuff like Barrie and Sarstedt, and arse-end-of-glam bands like HMK (the singer desperately trying to sound like Ian Hunter and failing dismally).

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't know about 'punk had to happen' but certainly something had to happen. If I was a young teenager in 1976 I'd have been in fucking despair.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

favourite bit was Archie Bell and the Drells 'looking for their contact lenses' dance moves
also didn't know the junkie from Auf Wiedershen Pet was in a band

zappi, Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

(the singer desperately trying to sound like Ian Hunter and failing dismally)

Ah! That works, yes.

Or rather, it didn't work. But it probably was the general idea.

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wikipedia has the goods...

in 1976 their single "She's No Angel" was regularly played on BBC Radio 1, a favourite of legendary DJ John Peel, and this led to an appearance on Top Of The Pops

Can't see why Peel would particularly care about them. There is something very vaguely proto-punk about them, highlighting that glam was quite a big part of punk.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

And HMK minus the more obvious theatrics would be more or less Sham 69.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought HMK was okay! What the hell's going on with this J J Barrie character though.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

wondered if JS should get any credit for that or if I should continue to be skeeved out by him

i am always creeped out by any of these R1 DJ sleezers standing amidst teenage girls. Whole atmosphere is unwholesome.

watching now ffs no charge

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

The always excellent blog Pushing Ahead of the Dame has reached the last Bowie/Bolan colab, mentioning Bolan's connection to punk:
http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/the-bolan-collaborations/

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Would have thought HMK OK minus the singer. Lively tune.

ok now i live in world where the wurzels are blessed relief.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 2 June 2011 22:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Introduced by Jimmy Saville O.B.E."

decent one overall! Archie Bell + Drells, Real Thing, little of total awfulness.

I'm pretty sure that the dream Iggy had that inspired 'TVC15' didn't look like Ruby Flipper's interpretation.

No I now choose to see bowie-in-berlin through the Ruby Flipper lens - Iggy does headstand on table, Bowie mugs at image of woman on tv then somersaults, Eno walks on hands across living room. Everyone is dressed confusingly.

(looking forward to Pushing Ahead on The Lodger. Been listening to that a lot lately)

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

It did seem that Gry Holton's performance was cut just after he tried to get the audience to clap along, or do SOMETHING anyway...

Yeah, John Peel would have championed them, it wasn't all Ramones at his place at this point in history, it was The Faces, Mott etc...

Mark G, Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought that Katie Kissoon sold her shit song rather effectively. Once she ditched the hopeless Mac, she forged a more-than-respectable session/backing singing career.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

> I now choose to see bowie-in-berlin through the Ruby Flipper lens - Iggy does headstand on table, Bowie mugs at image of woman on tv then somersaults, Eno walks on hands across living room. Everyone is dressed confusingly.

genius. the whole thing did look like some kind of fever dream.

must admit i ffwded through the repeats of things last night

koogs, Friday, 3 June 2011 07:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

The dance sequence to the Bowie track was just unbelievable.

Hippocratic Oaf (DavidM), Friday, 3 June 2011 11:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

for posterity & the non-iplayered

portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 3 June 2011 11:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, I mean Flick Colby RIP and all that but wtf was she thinking? Why was the black guy dressed like a jockey? It's nice that HM Kids were making some sort of effort but it was still terrible, and then punk started and one nanosecond later they were dead and Gary Holton was phoning his agent and looking for acting roles

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 3 June 2011 11:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the Bowie living room routine was a spookily accurate portrayal of what it meant to be a Bowie fan in Britian '76.

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 09:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

it reminded me of Talc & Turnips from Big Night Out.

koogs, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 09:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Staggering Noosha Fox - Ben Goldacre fact, too.

I read that then, later the same day, happened to meet BG at a gig. I drunkenly assailed him with "NOOSHA FOX IS YOUR MUM!" Not my greatest moment. No, actually, scratch that. My greatest moment.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 09:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Alternate A.C. Song titles

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 09:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

(xp) What was his response?

Waking Suggs to make music to wake Suggs to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

He changed the subject. Then I offered to photograph his wedding. I was really covering myself in glory.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Did you tell him you had a s-s-single bed?

Waking Suggs to make music to wake Suggs to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mike, it totally was your greatest moment, and it was the future Mrs G's greatest moment when she immediately asked you if you were offering to photograph the wedding to "spend time with Noosha".

Apparently, he later let it be known that he's actually very proud of his mum, once all the rabid fans such as ourselves were out of earshot. So much for rationality and science, eh?

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 10:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought that maybe it had been dropped, but it's on tonight at 7:30.

wtf is wrong with people? (snoball), Monday, 13 June 2011 08:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh right..

I saw that the episode on Thursday isn't on at 7:30 but the 35 minute edition is, later on the same night.

Mark G, Monday, 13 June 2011 08:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is there much of a difference or do they just edit out a lame track/crappy DLT 'joeks'?

wtf is wrong with people? (snoball), Monday, 13 June 2011 08:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well, one week they edited out "Fool to Cry" the Rolling Stones...

Mark G, Monday, 13 June 2011 08:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

I quite like the 1st Heavy Metal Kids album. No idea what they sounded like by 1976 though, I haven't been watching this. Although I'm now intrigued by the couple of Fox LPs in my grandpa's old record collection.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 13 June 2011 10:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Studio average seems to be one good act (Gladys Knight and the Pips most recently), one that's of historical interest (HM Kids, Fox) and one complete WTF (Ruby Flipper etc). The rest is unalloyed dross.
On last week's they seemed to have run out of money for acts, so played the theme music (?) for an extra two minutes at the end, while filming the studio lights.

bham, Monday, 13 June 2011 11:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think that was Mistura's "The Flasher", not the TOTP theme tune there.

Mark G, Monday, 13 June 2011 11:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

according to bbc4 (although i must check, yep) the one on tonight is the same one that'll be on on thursday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00704hg/episodes/upcoming

"From the year that sculpted pop, Tony Blackburn introduces the Glitter Band, New Edition, JJ Barrie, Our Kid, Cliff Richard, Mud, Thin Lizzy, Dolly Parton and the Rolling Stones."

maybe they (there was another skipped week recently) are missing from the archive?

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2011 12:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw, was in the lexington yesterday and some weekly show there is using an A3 picture of noosha on their posters.

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2011 12:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

30 minutes tonight
40 minutes thu (late)
40 minutes sat + 2 other programmes:

00:10–01:40
Big Hits: TOTP 1964 to 1975
With the Rolling Stones, Tom Jones, Status Quo, Procol Harum, Stevie Wonder and the Kinks. (R)

01:40–02:30
Top of the Pops: The Story of 1976
Top of the Pops in 1976, as a barometer of the state of pop and light entertainment TV. (R)

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2011 12:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Changed their name singe Gary Glitter retired"

wtf is wrong with people? (snoball), Monday, 13 June 2011 18:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

I bet "Our Kid" got the piss ripped out of them at school for this.

wtf is wrong with people? (snoball), Monday, 13 June 2011 18:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh, they had all sorts offering them TV series, etc..

Was so glad they went away!

Mark G, Monday, 13 June 2011 21:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Still, a bonafide classic appears, "The boys are back in town"...

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 00:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Missed out, repeats of "Devil Woman" and "Shake it down"..

Right, that week was somewhat scattered around the schedule, this week presumably back to normal..

Mark G, Monday, 20 June 2011 08:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

if only there was some way of looking up, i don't know, the bbc4 schedule...

Thu 23 Jun 2011 19:30
Fri 24 Jun 2011 00:45
Sat 25 Jun 2011 23:25

"Noel Edmonds looks at highlights of the weekly 1976 pop charts and introduces the Surprise Sisters, the Real Thing, the Sensational Alex Harvey Band, Flintlock, Osibisa, Archie Bell and the Drells, Brian Ferry, the Wurzels and Ruby Flipper."

osibisa... and weren't flintlock the band that one of the tomorrow people used to be in?

lots of non-chart entries in last week's i noticed. unless they are using the top 40 for eligibility but only listing the top 30.

koogs, Monday, 20 June 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

No, a whole bunch of not-charting stuff.

"New Edition" get the wildcard that is "some sort of BBC TV programme tie-in". I remember two theme tunes for "Saturday Special", the variety show that came each week from a different seaside town. One was a hit "Summertime City", and one wasn't, "Get a little sand between yr toes". That one I don't remember at all.

"Natural Rhythm" and "Don't make promises" weren't, but got a fair amount of radio play.

Mark G, Monday, 20 June 2011 09:42 (3 years ago) Permalink


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