Henry Cow C/D and S/D

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For what's worth, I think he's obviously right.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 09:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kinda teasing fans there with the prospect of a reconstituted Cow

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 27 May 2011 11:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

He's not 'obviously right' at all. Some of the things he says are right, but certainly not all, and the conclusions he draws from some things do not necessarily follow.

This piece from Records on Ribs is a great contribution to the debate as far as I'm concerned: To Free or Not to Free. (Full disclosure: I do know them, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything they say here - I just think it's a very well considered addition to the subject.)

emil.y, Friday, 27 May 2011 11:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

"As Cutler notes, plumbers do not work for free. But capitalism is not the end of history and perhaps one day plumbers will work for free"

Thanks for the tip; while I can appreciate the effort put in the label, phrases like this are a bit puzzling, at least for me.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 13:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not sure if this is being patronising, but the 'end of history' thing is a reference to Fukuyama's book, in which he claims our state of Western capitalist democracy is indeed the end point of cultural evolution.

emil.y, Friday, 27 May 2011 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

No problem - for what's worth, I find Fukuyama and his Hegelian mannerisms pretty simplistic too.
Still the idea of a society based on "gift economies, common ownership and mutual aid" seems to me wishful thinking, at the same time beautiful and slightly terrifying.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cutler's response was actually written a few years ago in response to filesharing and repurposed as a response to Kenny's column but it's still a live topic

"As Cutler notes, plumbers do not work for free. But capitalism is not the end of history and perhaps one day plumbers will work for free"

this struck me as a slightly patronizing tone to take towards the individual who wrote the lyrics for "In Praise Of Learning" & "The World As It Is Today" but the Internet means that the conversation usually gotten started before a round of formal introductions. I agree that RoR's (ha ha) idealism is kind of charming but Cutler's been living in the real world for a few decades

as the owner who started what I basically consider to be the most important independent art music label of the 80's and early 90's, Cutler gets to hardline his points -- I learned the canon of most of what I consider to be important through Recommended Records' catalog during that time, and there was no one -- no one else keeping this music in print at that time.

Milton Parker, Friday, 27 May 2011 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

is there really not a RIO thread?

Posting here then: http://www.indiegogo.com/RomanticWarriors?c=home

Anyone interested in Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Samla, Magma...basically any experimental prog, needs to watch this and contribute to this documentary. They have all the major players, and the story needs to be told, and out there for all to see.

Dominique, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Listening to Unrest now for the first time. I think I understand how this is In Opposition; quite clearly, in fact. The very hills, the hedges, the birds, they are all rising to face the oppressor. Ancient, paganistic squalls of defiance; beauty and savage horror.

imago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

feels like a plausible alternative soundtrack to Watership Down

imago, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

RIP Lindsay Cooper, she had been unwell with MS for some years and apparently died today.

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:00 (10 months ago) Permalink

time to listen to Angel On The Bridge then

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 September 2013 01:19 (10 months ago) Permalink

Oh nooooo that sucks! I love her playing on Art Bears and that David Thomas record so much!

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:01 (10 months ago) Permalink

oh shit, that's sad news

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 19 September 2013 06:13 (10 months ago) Permalink

RIP. First time I encountered her playing would've been on Children of God by Swans, still one of my all-time fave albs.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 September 2013 07:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

Never made the connection back in '87 when Children of God came out. It was only when I was comparing that record with the first Comus album on ilx that Marcello pointed out to me that *she played with both bands*!

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:41 (10 months ago) Permalink

RIP Lindsay

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

Shit. RIP.

emil.y, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:09 (10 months ago) Permalink

Had an email about this when I got up, not the best way to start off the day.

Amazing musician, by all accounts a great human being. RIP.

Some live Cow in homage.

alb indys, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/unrest/a_discography_of_lindsay_cooper/
...had no idea she was on so much.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:52 (9 months ago) Permalink

thanks for those links! sounds like a good show and a great way to mark her passing. wasn't previously aware of lindsay's friendship with sally potter

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

One-off Cow reunion in memory of Lindsay Cooper just announced:

http://www.serious.org.uk/events/info/henry-cow-music-for-films-news-from-babel-and-oh-moscow-play-the-music-of-l

goth colouring book (anagram), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:04 (1 month ago) Permalink


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