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Wouldn't argue about the artifice of Gaga, surely that's the point. It's the authenticity of Adele that gets the eyeroll.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Makes me think - is the idea of authenticity now so degraded that applying it to anyone would get the eyeroll? I think it's always been problematic and it's got to the point where I never ever want to see it used without scare quotes. I think Adele's appeal could fairly be described as "authenticity" rather than authenticity.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Why "authenticity", though? Why not "simplicity", since the essence of her performance ethos is "girl with big voice sings at u"?

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

Are you asking me or Toure? I used "authenticity" because however unreal and misleading that concept is in mainstream pop, Adele is clearly satisfying a craving for the "genuine", "unadorned", "real", "organic", etc. I think a lot of that genuinely comes from her personality and music taste but there's an element of calculation in the presentation - the black-and-white sleeve, the choice of which influences to foreground. For example, she's a massive Mary J Blige and Lauryn Hill fan but you can't hear any hip hop in 21. Not that it's as shamelessly "authentic" as the first Joss Stone album.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

you can hear R&B in there, its obv from her singing style, its just contained in more of a capital fm listenership-pleasing aesthetic. shes a much more... AUTHENTIC singer than joss stone in any case. much more natural/unoforced. even though i think shes still figuring out how to best control/use her voice.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

her general pose re: authenticity/being ordinary etc tbh reminds me of plan b more than anyone else

lot of similarities

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Really? Plan B plays on artifice - the whole Strickland Banks persona, the shifting genres. All they have in common is that they're white working-class Londoners - and both funny and candid - so maybe their personalities signify "authenticity".

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, the whole 'no bullshit, i tell it like it is, i dont care about sugarcoating my opinion' thing is def a big common thing. and the whole MOR sound in spite of that 'tude is also something they share. there were some other things too but my minds preoccupied.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who liked the first album better? At least judging from the songs that I've heard from the new one, they seem kind of over-arranged to me. I liked the more spare arrangements on _19_. Also "Chasing Pavements" > "Rolling in the Deep".

o. nate, Friday, 27 May 2011 20:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

"XL's Richard Russell blames 'boring, crass and unoriginal' music on industry's over-sexualisation of female artists"

good thing we discussed all of this in advance of anyone saying it.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 May 2011 21:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

'A success, in pop, is never just a success – it's always ready to be spun into a triumph for some wider force.'
says Tom Ewing

piscesx, Friday, 3 June 2011 16:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i miss when novelty hits were novel

51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

damn "Someone Like You" is depressing as shit.. I think I like this.

billstevejim, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

it has a new video.. this was my first time hearing this song

billstevejim, Friday, 30 September 2011 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

great cover of rolling:

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tell us a little about how “Rolling in the Deep” came about.

A. I had all these chords I thought would be perfect for her. You know, little musical riffs or themes. I tried all these out on her for about two hours. She literally sat there with a pen in her hand staring blankly, and she just went, “I’m not feeling anything.” And then she went, “I’ve got this riff, this idea, that’s going round and round my head,” and I went, “Go on then, what is it?” And she went, [sings] “There’s a fire.”

I said wow, and I just grabbed a guitar and quickly tried to figure out what the key was. She had all the verses, that thematic melody that she uses all through the song. I put all the verses down as one long recording, and then we put spaces in the track to start work on a prechorus and a chorus. We wrote the core of the song — her verses and the chords — in under 15 minutes. And the rest of it was structured over two hours.

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Q. Her vocal track that you recorded that day for a demo ended up on the album. Why didn’t you redo it?

A. Adele was going through something. She had had her heart broken, and she was in pieces, and you can really hear that, her anger and her sadness. Sometimes I just don’t think you can recreate that or fake it. My hunch is that we captured something in her vocal performance that was going to be very hard to recreate

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

spare us a tenner til Monday?

piscesx, Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

the headline "Adele shows off her new £7 million, 10-bedroom mansion in new video" makes it sound like the Hype Williams-directed clip for the Swizz Beatz remix of her new single takes place in her mansion

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:55 (4 years ago) Permalink


The Reverend, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

French paper publishing Adele sextape tomorrow. Skeezy.

zappi, Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

does anyone really wanna see that lol

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes. yes i do.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

god, the leaked pic is disturbing enough. not sure if I'm gonna be able to watch it.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's a still from a sex tape

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:02 (4 years ago) Permalink


illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

une sextape

buzza, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes, supposedly it's a still from the sextape. adele's image is ruined for me now.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can't believe L'Académie française has not come up with a word for "sex tape."

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Friday, 17 February 2012 11:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

In other news, she's been moaning about paying tax again, hasn't she?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

somebody linked me this pic, but Adele really isn't the highlight:

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

lmfaooo. i wish this were real

teledyldonix, Friday, 17 February 2012 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Adele's pregnant, man her next album is gonna suuuuuuuuck

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

I didn't realize Adele is younger than I am!

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

Regarding the decline of the music industry thread elsewhere, it might be interesting to discuss "21". As in, why did this particular album actually go on to sell in numbers otherwise unheard of in the 2010s? Not being on Spotify until 2013-ish may have helped, surely? And appealing to a somewhat older audience? But, really, 30 million copies (probably even more as this is the sales by 2014). That is just so enormously much more than anything else released in the 10s. So why?

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 00:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

tristan wilds' biggest role since the wire tbh

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:51 (6 months ago) Permalink

new song firmly in my head :/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

Because grandmas and old women like Adele and they don't stream or download.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

it's pretty fucking dreary

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:17 (6 months ago) Permalink

good iD interview here

Danger Mouse, Paul Epworth, Bruno Mars all on the album. supposedly it sounds like 70s soft rock!

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

obvious point but still interesting to me how much "hello" clings to yet inverts the emotional drama of "someone like you"- this is the guilty other side answer song to her previous hit- how do you manage the nostalgia you feel for a relationship that you ended? it's subtler, less self-indulgent, i guess more "mature", and it manages to loop her listeners back insofar as it's a reminder song about reminded, so the career arc and lyrical situation both click

the tune was space, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:32 (6 months ago) Permalink

er, about being reminded

the tune was space, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

adele is such a fucking plodding pedestrian bore

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 00:28 (6 months ago) Permalink

adele should probably scrap the new album and redo it with this guy from "the voice" doing all the lead vocals:

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 07:06 (6 months ago) Permalink

guy pwnd that song!

music videos w long intros = duuuuud and whats up with all the dialogue and noise? also just a lot of useless belting, as if that's supposed to make her sound like a good singer... esp lol when they zoom in on her at 2:50 and belting is out of sync, who edited this vid?

niels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 08:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

yes it is all so dull and poorly executed that it's.... more popular than star wars, huh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 October 2015 09:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

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