Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link
you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')
― braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link
That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.
Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Spacehttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg
― dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link
can someone please send me an invite?
thanks!!
― kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Er....
https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Think there's still a waiting list though.
<3 this service btw.
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Got in straight away with the link I posted.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Aha they've obviously opened it up!
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.
Please!
― kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
(advert)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf 2 adverts in a row (the 2nd was for that White Lies album)
See what I mean about them? The Killers meet Editors big wowz!
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
can i get a spotify invite
― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.Please!― kaiser, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmarkcan i get a spotify invite― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
― kaiser, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
Have any of you actually tried the link posted? Quite a few of my friends in the UK have used the link and joined today. Maybe it doesn't work in other countries...
\o.0/
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm in the US and that link asks for one of two things:
1)an invite code
or
2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"
I wonder what their excuse is. Don't they want more people to hear their stupid ads?
― I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
is it UK only?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
mr bimble check your email
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link
It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm in the US and unless something changed in the last few days, we can't use spotify and all the workarounds have been blocked
― miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I selected this a couple of weeks ago, and got an invite from them within the same day. May not be the case now, of course.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:25 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/ gets you straight in without an invite.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I went in on that link above, no trouble at all. I'm in the UK tho - maybe there's a problem with the US, I dunno.
It's awesome, btw. Nearest thing to the "universal jukebox" I've seen for a long time.
― NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it's staggering. At least 95% of my track/artist searches to date have returned results. And I like the concept of shared playlists.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Spotify Premium is available in Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Spain and the UK. The Free version is only available in Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France and Spain.
It amuses me to see the adverts briefly appear in last.fm (and permanently in your Spotify history).
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
This is impressive. There's a lot more weird, small stuff on than I thought there would be, thopugh also mystifying gaps too.
Someone should set up a shared ILX playlist for Jan (then we can move to Feb etc to stop it getting unwieldy). I'll do it tonight if no-one else does.
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Excellent idea. I was thinking of doing one for the Pazz & Jop Top 50 singles, and maybe the Rocktimists poll tracks as well. But it'll have to wait until tonight.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Gaps spotted so far: no King Crimson, very little UK Funky, no Aeroplane mix of Grace Jones "Williams Blood" (although their mix of Friendly Fires "Paris" is on there). Remixes are generally well represented, though.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Remixes are generally well represented, though.
But not always listed as remixes, I've found. And they don't scrobble as remixes (sorry, I'll take that to the last.fm thread)
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I also like the non-bloatiness: the software was running at around 14,000k on my home PC last night - so I could close iTunes for once, and benefit from the faster performance.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope this thing a) goes global so the US can use it b) they make a mobile/iphone app c) ushers in a new era of music use.
I confidently predict big 4 will put a stop to it.
― NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link
All the majors have signed up in europe, though. I suppose it's whether the US ones are far-sighted enough.
It's also notable that most of the big digital music holdout bands aren't represented- no Beatles, Metallica, AC/DC.
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Every Stones album is there though, yay!
Another thing I've noticed is that the service avoids any queueing problems, as you occasionally get on, say, last.fm.
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Last.fm is screwed unless they can come up with something as wide ranging as this.
― Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link
The DJ Khaled selection is spotty and Denim aren't on there either.
I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on. If you pick someone like The Sweet it takes about 5 mins to scroll through them all.
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link
How on earth are they going to make any money out of this model? I can only imagine that once they've got a critical mass of people using it, they're going to radically increase the amount of advertising.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
That and premium subs I guess.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link
At the moment, the advertising is pretty unobtrusive so I can't see why anyone would want to be a paying subscriber. Which is why I'm guessing they'll up the advertising once they get enough people hooked.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Indeed, at the moment the advertising is infrequent enough not to annoy but I'm sur it'll increase in frequency. Service is good but not quite thorough enough, some bizarre gaps in artist's discographies e.g most of Sparks 70's output and their most recent work but little from the 80s/90s. Once they can plug those gaps, get on board the digital refuseniks and most importantly provide a mobile service then £10 a month would be very tempting.
― Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Getting enough people hooked should mean they don't have to up the advertising - advertisers will simply pay more for a bigger audience.
Maybe if they get enough people hooked they'll be able to offer ad-free for £4.99 instead of £9.99.
I wonder how much artists are paid through this. We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.
I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on
So true - the other night I found myself marvelling at how many "a tribute to" albums Sigue Sigue Sputnik have appeared on (from memory: NiN, Soft Cell, Smashing Pumpkins, Madonna, KMFDM, Prince...) - who keeps asking them?
― onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link
We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.
Or those bands could just set up a computer with their songs on repeat!
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder how much artists are paid through this
Maybe, John D could answer. Hopefully I made him a few cents when I listened to 'Palmcorder Yajna' earlier this week.
― Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Well last.fm's royalty rate is $0.0005 per play, and presumably something similar in Europe too.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
So a million plays required for a measly $500? I don't think mobilising the ILM masses will be enough to get J0hn D that rockstar mansion.
― onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't think that the artist would get much from each play but $0.0005 is shockingly low.
― Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
My guess is that record company gets half a cent and the artist get 10%.
― NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/19/swedish-composer-johan-rohr-becomes-spotifys-most-famous-musician-youve-never-heard-of
this article is missing info on the alleged reduced royalty rate for playlisting deal
it's a damn shame that functional music/sounds is piled together with real music - but it's not really a secret or anything new, is it?
sadly, every time you play a white noise/soothing rain sounds track on spotify, you are moving resources from actual musicians
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 25 March 2024 10:30 (four days ago) link
we've gone from a society that reads books to one that watches 20 second videos, from a society that listens to or god forbid sings and plays music to one that listens to literal static /uncool conservative opinions
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:11 (four days ago) link
I guess the Spotify response is "What about it?" and an implicit confirmation that playlists are product placement and that the competition is biased / flawed / nepotism.I would say Johan Röhr is an actual musician, I'm not shocked that stock nature sounds are on the platform, and I can even accept that different business models for different customers cohabit on the platform. But allowing for money-making schemes / free-loaders appears more significant than they're admitting here.
― Nabozo, Monday, 25 March 2024 11:17 (four days ago) link
Yeah, I do feel the "fake artist" angle is flawed, like... it's pretty common to release music under assumed names
the playlist placement thing sounds an awful lot like payola, but hard to tell if Röhr's distributor is on a discovery mode type deal https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/3-things-to-know-about-spotifys-controversial-new-pay-for-influence-tool-discovery-mode/
In any part of the Spotify Service, the Content that you access, including its selection and placement, may be influenced by commercial considerations, including Spotify's agreements with third parties.
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 25 March 2024 11:53 (four days ago) link
I'm surprised if paying for playlist placement isn't illegal
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 25 March 2024 11:54 (four days ago) link
"Swedish chillout playlist scam" worthy of the next We Didn't Start the Fire
― President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 13:57 (four days ago) link
Swedish chillout playlist scamHouthis funded by IranBlame it on the TikTok banDesantis and his boots
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:17 (four days ago) link
payola is the weed smoking of the music industry: some people do it proudly, others on the dl, others fiercly opposed. its legality is always a grey area, everybody has an opinion and, more importantly, everyone does it.
also that was incredible, table.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:32 (four days ago) link
I thought payola was illegal because it was happening on the public airwaves. This is more like publishers paying for bookstore displays or something.
― President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 21:01 (four days ago) link
Yeah I am not a Swedish lawyer, but I wouldn't assume it would necessarily be illegal for Spotify to make $$ deals for playlist placement...
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 00:08 (three days ago) link
haha irl lol Austin
also beautiful work by table and Keyes
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 07:15 (three days ago) link
tbc I was lolling bcz of yr description being delectably otm
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 07:16 (three days ago) link
Each week, more and more of Discover Weekly being cluttered up with bullshit forgettable winsome little 2-minute tracks that credit (and maybe sample, minutely?) 6 different artists, 1 of which I follow, and that nobody ever needs to listen to, called things like 'Sip and Groove'.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:22 (yesterday) link
Even worse, mine has Catatonia songs on it
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:03 (nine hours ago) link
yeah I stopped using mine a long time ago, kinda sad since in the beginning it was quite useful
I hesitate to use the term enshittification, but all the same it seems like there's a big algorithm supported move towards unobtrusive mellow vibe music, not necessarily ambient, but very functional
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 March 2024 05:57 (three hours ago) link