Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

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how was that different to what happened here?

Spacey wacey.

Continuity-wuity more like.

England's banh mi army (ledge), Monday, 16 May 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

agree with most of Matt's criticism (esp. the pace + too many big ideas in too small a space OMG LIKE AN ACTUAL TARDIS) but was watching it at 4am quite drunk so must rewatch - thought it was pretty cool anyway despite the "wife" thing being inevitably ultra lame bait.

Idris/actress was excellent, also made the Bonham-Carter connection (via some other actually tenuous Gaiman/Burton comparisons). didn't see the point of the Ood (nor the old control room scene really...tho made me wonder the old control rooms would look on digital film as opposed to the video of the past) and also agree that the TARDIS corridors were strangely grim (but necessarily so in this case i guess). great dialogue throughout tho.

school of seven bellhops (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

Ood qua Ood: Gaiman wrote a new alium but they'd run out of money to make new pointy ears.

wild ood entry

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 16 May 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

Michael Sheen was the voice of House?

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 May 2011 11:00 (twelve years ago) link

How long is it going to take for the Doctor to twig that you can tell if it's a good Ood or an evil Ood by looking at the colour of its eyes?

Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

This one still had good green eyes though

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Also Amy really shines with Rory, huh?

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the good ones had blue eyes?

Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

I don't see any Amy/Rory chemistry. Don't see what Rory has to offer at all tbh. Sorry, Rory.

England's banh mi army (ledge), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

he waits, that's what he does.

koogs, Monday, 16 May 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was green vs red

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

more "importantly", why they all wear the same worker outfit from The Impossible Planet?

school of seven bellhops (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

oh duh, Ood had green eyes because House was green

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

That poor girl. Her parents named her Acquanetta.

that's when i reach for my ︻╦╤─* (suzy), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

She could have changed it

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Don't see what Rory has to offer at all tbh. Sorry, Rory.

I agree, I don't get Rory at all. The character's likeable in a "that bloke seems quite nice" sort of way but he's not at all interesting or charismatic. He gets plot functions and dies six times a week but otherwise he's just a third wheel.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 16 May 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Rory is utterly pointless. New assistant please.

“I'm a hero with coward's legs.” (captain rosie), Monday, 16 May 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

What's especially annoying is that Darvill is at least three times as likeable in interviews, which makes me think the character is probably not a good fit for him.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 16 May 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

Your spot on there. He seems an affable chap. What purpose does the Rory character have?

“I'm a hero with coward's legs.” (captain rosie), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

Eliminates the RTD-style Doctor/companion love interest thing.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

Arthur Darvill's the RADA grad in the room and is doing Mephistopheles in Doctor Faustus later in the year. I don't think this sub-Lyndhurst dweeb we're currently seeing is where the character of Rory will end up (he did the whole 'going mental' thing v. v. well).

that's when i reach for my ︻╦╤─* (suzy), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

agh, what I'm trying to say is Moffffffffffffffeeettttttttttttttttttttttttt wants to indicate pretty strongly that his show will not create any sort of emo love affair b/n the Doctor and Amy and that Rory is the clearest manifestation of that xp

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol at "sub-Lyndhurst"

I for one do not approve of an emo love affair b/n the Doctor and anybody. It is a shame that Rory couldn't have had more depth.
I doubt he'll develop into a raging crazy all powerful Rory-Tron 3000. He'll probably just wimper in the corner like he normally does. Or die.

“I'm a hero with coward's legs.” (captain rosie), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Rory's been ok in Moffat's own eps where he tends to get both funnier lines and more to do. Plus the constant dying is starting to get funny now.

school of seven bellhops (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

And the bit where aged Rory is all "You always leave me!" was pretty sad and alarming

Just realised that Suranne Jones, who played the TARDIS Idris, was also the actress in 'Single Father' with Tennant last year, in which she was also rather excellent

I wonder if Moffatt ever saw the thing Lawrence Miles did in the books with the humanoid TARDISes

Now I'm wondering if Gaiman saw the thing Lawrence Miles did in the BBC books with the humanoid TARDISes

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

oh hai it's me, the one who said last year was worse than syphilis. I just watched the Vincent van Gogh episode and bawled for 10 mins straight.

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

:D

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

I think maybe Moffatt's a fan of the Doctor-Sarah Jane-Harry season but Rory's there to fill the walk-around-looking-bewildered role. For one thing, given that Amy knows the Doctor is going to die there needs to be a co-conspirator onboard to stop her just blurting it out. I get the feeling he's being lined up for something later in the series.

Constantly dying is starting to bring the lolz though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

The bloke who does the Guardian Who-blog suspects Rory is being lined up for something too. And even if he isn't, surely fathering the time-babby is enough? Being a kids show, you couldn't have Amy getting preggers from a one night stand with some random soldier/timelord/alien, lest the Daily Mail blow a gasket. I think the dynamic between the three is getting more interesting, what with the big secret, their own marriage (loved the bunk bed gag) and their Tardis corridor drama.

Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

yes yes its Threadless but this is pretty cute

http://media.threadless.com//imgs/products/2899/636x460design_01.jpg

zappi, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Finally the Ga'Hoole/Dr Who fan mashup I have been craving.

Col. Pinkney Lugenbeel (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

Dr. Whooot

No pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

Hopefully, like the Ga'Hoole movie, this season's climax involves Matt Smith flying in slow motion with a bucket of molten steel while Dead Can Dance plays.

Col. Pinkney Lugenbeel (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

http://isamypregnant.com/

delivers maximum wtf per cubic second (suzy), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

ok I laughed way too hard at that

Col. Pinkney Lugenbeel (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 May 2011 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

"To see what I saw click on the spot beyond the Doctor's home planet."

James Mitchell, Friday, 20 May 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Just caught a bit of Satan Pit on Watch - a meh episode that doesn't hold up at all well. Waste of a (visually) good monster.

the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Friday, 20 May 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

I dont think this has been posted: Doctor Who credits in the style of Buffy The Vampire Slayer :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiMCMWp4bw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 May 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

Thought that was terrific and genuinely creepy. I have soft spot for "idiot humans let down the Doctors moral universe" episodes. I suppose it raises the possibility of the Doctor we saw dying being the ganger though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 21 May 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

thought the whole 'clones running an industrial facility then getting upset about being clones' thing was a great idea, perhaps someone should make a film w/that premise

Romford Spring (DG), Saturday, 21 May 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

That was really good. More like old school Doctor with its 'trapped in a scary castle' setting. Relatively low budget too, so relies on some good old fashioned scares. Benefitted from the two part treatment too - not too frantic, with the bit part characters given a chance to develop. Good SF premise too. The Doctor fighting his doppleganger has the potential to be a bit naff, but hopefully they'll pull it off. Could the doppleganger be the Doctor who dies? Or maybe that's a bit too obvious, not to mention rather early a reveal.

Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Saturday, 21 May 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Doctor Who credits in the style of Buffy The Vampire Slayer :D

amazed at how much I like this!

More like old school Doctor with its 'trapped in a scary castle' setting.

Yeah, I've been non-spoily teasing people this week saying how classic-70s Who it felt. A spooky castle! A small team in a base under siege! Horror elements! The threat is from within! And a cliffhanger!

I don't think the ganger is going to turn out to be the Doctor that dies - a simple plastic Doctor wouldn't regenerate - but they're definitely planting piles and piles of references, hints and red herrings about deaths, resurrections and alternate bodies through the year to make us wonder and have fun speculating on how it's going to go down. I really loved the downcast Rory, now used to karking it most every episode, saying "Welcome to my world" in response to the pretty girl's fear of dying.

the man who forsook his wife for fap fap fap (sic), Sunday, 22 May 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

OTM about this week being like an old school revival, it felt like a classic Tom Baker episode. Well written and I am pleased it is a two parter. Scariest moment was the stretchy neck bit in the bathroom, awesome stuff.

I was a bit harsh on Rory last week, but he was great in this, growing some nuts at last!

“I'm a hero with coward's legs.” (captain rosie), Sunday, 22 May 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

buffy who thing = crap concept, excellent execution

best thing about this ep for me was the slower pace a 2 parter enables, similar and not really any better than The Hungry Earth (which was ok)

big crush on jennifer (sarah smart)

school of seven bellhops (blueski), Sunday, 22 May 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

my favourite of the series so far.

koogs, Sunday, 22 May 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, The Hungry Earth was exactly what it reminded me of, with a bit of Warriors of the Deep thrown in. Enjoyed it, but the series arc thing is getting in the way of the storytelling for me.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 22 May 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link


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