but i like almost everything from caged heat to silence of the lambs.
there must be another thread on him.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 May 2011 01:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
<3 something wild, is there a commentary on the criterion?
― johnny crunch, Monday, 16 May 2011 01:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
demme's the greatest. I even dug Rachel Getting Married
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
and something wild is excellent, love it
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Criterion Something Wild has a long interview w/Demme in lieu of a commentary.
― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
count me among those who thought the Ray Liotta act of SW is too jarring. and just not very good.
― resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 May 2011 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
Bought the Criterion edition of Something Wild and rewatched it last night; these days I prefer this to Blue Velvet in 1986's Suburban Diptych. Morbs not OTM.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also: filmed in Tallahassee!
it was filmed everywhere!
something wild is terrific. makes me very happy.
his talent seems to have shriveled up and blown away though. being feted by the industry, winning awards, etc. seems to have been very bad for him.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I liked his Neil Young movie a lot.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I liked Rachel Getting Married
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
well his documentaries are still fine.
rachel getting married ugh. so sad to see this guy who was a master of composition and subtle reframings and etc. just give in wholesale to the whole queasycam thing.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dunno, I usually hate that too but just that he shot it all on the fly and had everyone kinda improv as they went made the fictional event feel like a real event unfolding, I dug it
but I know lots of ppl hated it so I won't stan too hard
still love Stop Making Sense. Also Silence of the Lambs for all time
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Anne Hathaway kills a lot of movies with overacting (she strikes me as a drama club kid all grown up) but it kind of fit in RGM.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
im all about married to the mob
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
man i've entirely forgotten that movie exists
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
melvin and howard needs a criterion release or something. not enough people know that one.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Married to the Mob is great
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
he's a fricking genius, but Rachel Getting Married made me wanna chuck the telly outta the windae.
― piscesx, Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
the ending to Married To The Mob (the couple kiss! everyone in the barber shop applauds! Pfeiffer's boss winks at the camera! a cartoon love heart appears onscreen! New Order's Bizzare Love Triangle starts up!) is one of the best bits of any film i've seen in my life
― piscesx, Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Silence of the Lambs is, as Armond White once said, feminist claptrap.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
must-see: his doc The Agronomist
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
I had both Melvin and Howard and Married to the Mob on my comedy poll. (The latter higher, even though I count the former as the better film, if that makes sense.) I have very good memories of Handle with Care/Citizen's Band, too--I've got a home-taped copy and keep meaning to watch it again one day. Sadly forgotten: Paul Le Mat, who inexplicably wasn't even nominated for Melvin and Howard (Steenburgen won, and Robards was nominated).
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 13:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
wow, dr morbs, your littl thread-bombs are transcendently irritating. would you ever care to actually explain, the first time out, any of your devastating contraventions of conventional wisdom? or is trolling just, you know, your thing?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rachel Getting Married > any other Demme film I've seen, but I know I haven't seen most of the right ones
― Eric H., Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
are you supposed to hate every single character in Rachel Getting Married?
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think so, actually; that's one reason demme liked the script.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Jonathan Demme I once knew and loved was destroyed by a bad case of the Oscars, which may explain why everything he's done to the left of Hollywood lately has been massively better than his high profile pics. Beloved, The Truth about Charlie, Manchurian Candidate=yuck.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah philadelphia is the precise moment where he kind of flattens. though there are some good things in that movie.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Related: this is playing at our new documentary theatre this weekend (I don't think I'll be able to get in to see it, unfortunately).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1185371/
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
am: no, and by your personal definition that seemingly applies only to me instead of the other one-line "trolls" on this goddamn shithole of a "community," yes.
tSoL is homophobic, too. Seven is much the better of the high-grossing Grimm's fairytales of the '90s.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
please leave, then.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
i dug rachel getting married but i dont know if i would if i re-screened it.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
however i think rachel getting married to the mob would be a pretty amazing movie.
think about it.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:58 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
picturing you in a roger ebert-like basement screening room with big plush seating and a 35mm projector. "roll film, please!"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
"roll film, mother!"
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
i dug rachel getting married but i dont know if i would if i re-screened it
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:58 AM
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:11 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol this movie
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:12 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
formerly known as lol this guy
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this guy
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:15 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:15 PM
like i said
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 19:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:10 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
amplify?
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― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
he made Storefront Hitchcock so he'll always be alright by me. Plus he was super nice the one time I met him.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Are we still talking about Morbs
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haven't met Morbs. And I doubt his Storefront Hitchcock would be about Robyn.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey did anybody see the pilot of that Patrick Wilson "Doctor Who Sees Ghosts" show that Demme directed? Rough, clumsy stuff.
― da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
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― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey slocki, since i got a lot of shit from you on the rgm thread for not digging the movie, i'm curious why you think you wouldn't like it now
― da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've gotten some blowback on recommending Something Wild to people lately. Even if people admit the movie does more with the manic pixie dream girl archetype than most, they're still not glad they saw a movie where Melanie Griffith is a manic pixie dream girl.
― da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love Something Wild. Mr Veg made me watch it a fews ago, I love how it turns into a whole other movie
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
*a few years*
yeah i had be like "no, no, there's a tonal shift! just wait!" around the hotel scene
― da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I was NOT excited about it at all at first, lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Difference is Griffith actually feels like a genuinely nutty and endearing character, not the random assemblage of indie quirks that made up later iterations of the form. She's more of a screwball heroine than anything
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think people are skeptical because Melanie Griffith has basically become a manic aging pixie.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Working Girl and Something Wild are maybe the only 2 movies I've really enjoyed her in, where I haven't wanted to stab myself in the eye.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
She's amazing here. Demme gives her a closeup after Charlie unwittingly reveals how much she means to him that's devastating.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
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― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Number None, Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
btw SW has my favorite use of music -- as commentary, found objects, counterpoint -- in a movie ever.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah seriously.
let's watch the ending shall we?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
that film is a beautiful representation of the 1980s. dated in the best possible way.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I want The Feelies to play my reunion
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wonder -- is she actually hitting on him or is she playing with him since she probably knows he's not actually married to lulu?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
also: love the couple in the background.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Demme has a great feel for music in general, imo. His choice of Goodbye Horses for the dancing scene in SoL was fucking genius. (Feel free to crap on my head now Morbs)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
― da croupier, Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good question, i don't have a specific answer beyond 'it hasnt really stuck with me' tbh
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
no I like the way JD has used music, often
cept Storefront Hitchcock is Robyn on an off night
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 March 2012 03:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
always felt that Into The Night was easily the best of the urban/yuppie nightamre sub-genre. actually were After Hours, Something Wild and Into The Night the ONLY films in this sub genre? hm. well anyway i was recently amazed to see that someone else thought Into The Night was amazing too
― piscesx, Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
great genre
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Suddenly realizing that a good number of movies I've long intended to see were Demme's. And also that several are streaming on Netflix! Stop Making Sense and Rachel Getting Married (FUCK THA HATERS) are fantastic.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
after hours is my favorite scorsese movie i think. it is good.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
does naked fit into this subgenre btw?
mike leigh's?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I keep avoiding Mike Leigh's Naked, for perhaps obvious reasons.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost
also frankenheimer's seconds is like a weird cousin to this subgenre no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've always loved 'Naked'. Its been a while since I rewatched it, but for me it's THE Thewlis performance. He can only ever be THAT guy to me.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I watched it again recently and it is... kind of great and kind of totally weird and maybe dated in some ways. Don't see it as part of this genre tho
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Naked could be seen as the British equivalent of those movies but it's a helluva lot grimier and more disturbing. Funny too of course
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Music-wise, how do people feel about Demme having Q Lazzarus change the Talking Heads to "Heaven is a place where nothing can go wrong" in Philadelphia?
― da croupier, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
gonna go out on a limb and say that the feelies and robyn hitchcock songs in truth with charlie are also a little shoehorned
― da croupier, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
truth about charlie, i mean. haven't seen the manchurian candidate remake so i can't say whether the Go4, Mission Of Burma and Jah Wobble tracks imdb lists on its soundtrack work.
― da croupier, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Literally the only thing about Manchurian that works is casting Robyn Hitchcock as a villain.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
naked doesnt fit the bill at all, it's not about a straight/yuppie/uptight dude accidentally cast into urban chaos
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, he really is already a part of that world. If it was about the security guard...
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
always felt that Into The Night was easily the best of the urban/yuppie nightamre sub-genre. actually were After Hours, Something Wild and Into The Night the ONLY films in this sub genre?
miracle mile fits the bill, i think.
― ☆, Monday, 19 March 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
outlier
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
desperately seeking susan, definitely.
and on the margins (different margins) are risky business and romancing the stone, etc.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
but the reason why i'm here:
what do y'all think of "philadelphia"? aside from the neil young song, which is beyond criticism IMO.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well-meaning, some good performances, but clumsy and mawkish? Also seemed like an apologia after Silence of the Lambs. (Agree that "Philadelphia"'s really nice.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
You can't buy Citizen's Band/Handle with Care on DVD--not officially, anyway. I found one place selling a bootleg. That's terrible. This would be perfect for Criterion.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 June 2012 00:50 (11 months ago) Permalink