Does anybody know anything about Andrew Roberts? Or, what do you call a British version of a neo-conservative?

United Nations and Pakistan should have been informed of the raid beforehand, Lord, give me strength!

should = legally required, no?

Does he suggest we do away with international law?

He's already against human rights law

"For the past five years, I've been writing a history of the Second World War" - UK readers who bought the book two years might be impressed to learn he's still writing it.

*two years ago*, even.

kinda shocked that article hasn't been approvingly linked to on arts and letters daily.

What was the popular reaction in Britain to the news of Hitler's death? Were good honest, intestinally fortitudinous Britons whooping in the streets?

um, yes?

but surely that was more of an 'end of the war' thing rather than a 'ding dong the witch is dead' thing?

For the past five years, I've been writing a history of the Second World War

Maybe he hasn't got that far yet but there was a little thing that happened at the end of the war, called the Nuremberg Trials? You know, where, instead of simply blowing their brains out and dumping them in the North Sea, the Allies put the leaders of the Reich on trial, with defence counsels + the whole shmeer, in full view of cameras and the world's media?

then hung them and dumped them in the North Sea

That Rudolf Hess was living a life of luxury, Spandau Prison was a place, man in pub told me

A palace, i mean, though it was obviously a place too

Nazis were government officials etc on the losing side of a war that was over, easier to hold and try for genocide. OBL led an organization, but he was a free agent. SLIGHT DIFFERENCE.

And there was the letter about the U.S. celebrations to the conservative-leaning Daily Telegraph stating that terrorist cells "will be further fuelled by those inappropriate reactions by people who should have known better." How? How, Ms. Tess Hyland of Bathurst, could al Qaeda possibly hate us more than they do already?

pretty sure the 'fueling the hate' argument isn't referring to current members of al qaeda, andy.

funny that a guy who is plunged into despair by a conversation with a 'lady at a cocktail party' feels justified in lecturing others on their lack of 'intestinal fortitude.'

probably one of the least offensive andrew roberts pieces i've read

United Nations and Pakistan should have been informed of the raid beforehand, Lord, give me strength!

should = legally required, no?

Does he suggest we do away with international law?

― owenf, Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:53 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

really man? this is pretty much to say you'd rather osama had lived out his life in secluded peace. anyway im sure international law enforcement will come down on the US like a ton of bricks, so i guess justice *will* be served.

I'm not saying I'd rather Osama had lived out his life in secluded peace. But the US does have a wonderful history of abiding by international law (and when they do slip up oh so rarely they always say sorry and pay the consequences) COUGH COUGH

I'm not saying I'd rather Osama had lived out his life in secluded peace

ok, you'd rather a world where pakistan could be trusted with the knowledge -- i guess we all would.

im not a big believer in international law, again, not because i dislike the idea necessarily, just on the literal level of belief. it's unclear where it derives its authority from, who enforces it, etc. presumably pakistan is in breach of various international laws relating to terrorism; presumably also the US is in breach of international law by launching attacks inside pakistan. im sure sure who gets charged and sentenced, or by whom.

Ha ha, extraordinary self-loathing whinge from Roberts there, excoriating Britain for nothing more than, well, Not Being America.

Biggest lol, when he tries to exclude (baselessly) the guy he likes from the ranks of the obviously evil and depraved 'salaried commentariat'. Most o_0, when he suggests that the Germany and Japan lost the war because they suddenly turned conchy in 1945.

That's some classic shit. Obviously German demoralization had nothing to do with the army mostly being kids and geriatrics by 1945.