Please talk about: "Buffalo Stance" by Neneh Cherry

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I always loved that synth-keys upward progression that sounds like a Sega space game going into the next level.

Send Neneh Cherry polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone

Couldn't I just send her to my pants instead?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

This may shock some to read, but I think that -- with the exception of the lyrics of "Trout," which are well-intentioned but ultimatley ridiculous -- VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT NENEH CHERRY HAS EVER DONE IS ABSOLUTELY, CATEGORICALLY BRILLIANT!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

The best part of B Stance is the sample of Miami's Chicken Yellow, I thinks.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

The $200 video is a total, total classic.

Thanks for posting the lyrics, I never could make out that "no style rookie" line.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I want to talk about "Man Child" instead. One of the most beautiful songs ever to contain rapping...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

this song is pretty good, but I don't get the classic rep.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

AND YOU TOO WILL LEARN TO LIVE THE LIE

― N_RQ, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

I played this when I DJed at the last Poptimism and out of all the songs I played, people's reaction to this put the biggest smile on my face. I love everything aout it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I hereby declare everybody in this thread to be insane. Or British.

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

raw like sushi is great, but the single version of 'heart' is much better than the album version (or do i have that the wrong way round?)

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

this song and its video are of course fantastic

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Buffallo" was a london based photgraphy and fashion collective that specialised in tuff/pretty looking models. if u saw The Face at any time in the early 80's then you know their work. They did most of the fashion covers (Nick Kamen was their most famous). the collective was formed by Ray Petri, Jamie Morgan and Cameron McVey (who Neneh later married).

http://www.showstudio.com/projects/mgn/mgn_movies.html

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

she only married one of them, not all three.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think 3D from Massive Attack was part of the scene too, hence "lookin good, hangin' with The Wild Bunch"

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

I loved this song when it came out and was actually listening to the 45 when the '89 bay area earthquake hit. The record was skipping over and over again when the earthquake stopped and it always creeped me out after that.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

that is true

and the song is Classic, Klassic and any other way you wanna spell it, always makes me smile and ppl dance when I play it

and Alex in NYC is right in saying Neneh generally is brilliant

btw, has anyone actually come out hating the song yet?

― H (Heruy), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

one of my favorites, ever. i finally found the 12" a couple of years ago, which was a sunny day indeed.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

x-post:
half the song was originally on a Wild Bunch-produced Jamie J Morgan b-side a couple of years earlier

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 20 May 2005 03:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

how about we all celebrate by somebody YSIing it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 May 2005 03:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

For some reason, not necessarily musical, Buffalo Stance reminds of Oran Juice Jones - The Rain.

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

I bought the cassingle of this 'back in the day'. I don't have it with me anymore, but I recall the cardboard edges of that thing were really really worn.

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think wild bunch did a couple tracks on 'raw like sushi': bristol p-punk-trip hop 'nuum represent: neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

― N_RQ, Friday, 20 May 2005 07:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

the first cd i ever owned (c1990).

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think wild bunch did a couple tracks on 'raw like sushi': bristol p-punk-trip hop 'nuum represent: neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

Geoff Barrow (Portishead) did a couple of tracks on Homebrew too.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

3D wrote 'Manchild' fyi

― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 20 May 2005 09:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

3D co-wrote it. Geoff Barrow did one track on "Homebrew" the sublime "Somedays".

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 12:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

And being Neneh has done stuff with The Slits, and Gangstarr was featured on Homebrew also, we really could do a six degrees of Neneh thing.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://www.skysaw.org/onu/artists/personnel/nenehcherry.html

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

For some reason, not necessarily musical, Buffalo Stance reminds of Oran Juice Jones - The Rain.

This is sort of creepy, because I got both of these songs from the iTunes store at the same time a couple of months ago - I had both of them stuck in my head and hadn't head either in years.

― joygoat (joygoat), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Buffalo Stance and The Rain are two of my all time favourite songs! How weird. Long after I stopped listening to the vast majority of my albums on tape, I still dug out Raw Like Sushi quite regularly. I only bought it on CD last year, thanks to Fopp's lovely fiver section.

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

(The Rain reminds me of my friends all sitting round the college canteen saying AND HIM in stupid voices and pissing ourselves laughing. We did similarly with 'My name is Prince and I am UGLY' whenever a BOY walked past.)

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think of The Rain as being Drum Machine + synths in an R&B song; one that crossed over to the Hip-Hop market thanks to its attitude.

I think of Buffalo Stance as a urban hippie-esque dance song based mostly around samples that tried to cross over to the Hip-Hop crowd, but came off as a more black version of Groove is in the Heart.

I also differentiate greatly between mid 80's and late 80's urban music thanks to the invention of Emu's sp1200.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Granted, Groove is in the Heart came later I think...

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

thanks to its attitude

Oran "Juice" Jones had the crazy gansterrific persona. I think my favorite part of The Rain might be ad libs at the end. "You're just a squirrel looking for nut!"

― Candicissima (candicissima), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Cameron McVey (who Neneh later married)."

He produced (or co?) the first Sugababes record, no?

I was obsessed with Neneh during my teenage years. OBSESSED. I would gawk at the cd booklet for an hour while listening to the record...

― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

Miss Thang's "Thunder & Lightening" to thread.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

i still play the album but i've never liked buffalo stance
i love "manchild" - it was my fave single for that year.
"heart" was great
"inner city mama" was good.

then "7 seconds " was brilliant.
wasn't "trout "with michael (REM) stipe ?

― inner city papa, Friday, 20 May 2005 15:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

If I remember correctly it was originally a B-side for the group Morgan McVey. I'd love to hear that version. Anyone have it? Probably not...

― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I do, but on vinyl, not any kind of easily-postable form

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

Also, Arthur Baker and Kevin Saunderson remixes on the b-side of the 12"? Utter classic, especially the "1/2 Way 2 House Mix" which makes me nostalgic for an era I was scarcely alive for!

― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

You know, I need to hear this song again, seriously. I can't even remember how it goes at all, but I bought it at the time (on a 'cassingle' no less). I came across Raw Like Sushi in the Trouser Press Record Guide the other day and thought about how it really seemed like a lot of folks flipped over that record. It seemed like it was on everyone's fave albums of the year list, whatever year that was. I'm sure not everyone liked it of course, but this is how I remember it.

― honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

I always associate Buffalo Stance and Rain with Coldcut's Stop This Crazy thing, don't know why - they were probably all out at roughly the same time

― m3ntal1st, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Probably one of the best synth hooks ever!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

With the new reissue of Red Hot + Blue, it's worth putting in a good word for her hip-hop version of "I've Got You Under My Skin".

It takes some courage to do a blank-verse rap like the "Smokin', no cokin'" section, then going all Tracy Ullman with the imitation cockney accents.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

I hated this for a long time and then a couple years ago listened to it and was blown away. Now I have no idea how I feel about it. It's undeniable on some level but felt amazingly corny and dated at the time to me. (I was no futurist in 1989, either.) But it's also totally exuberant and ultimately I think that tips me back into the "like" category, at least a little.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm always awed by the reassuring simplicity of a couplet like "no money man can win my love / it's sweetness that I'm thinking of."

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

I remember when it came out it seemed like one of those inpenetetrably British novelty hits, with the Bomb The Bass cameo and, again, the Cockney voices - I felt a little left out of what it meant or why it was good, except during all-ages nights at The Underground in the U District.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

I once had a nightmare that my copy of this had split into several pieces inside the sleeve, it was horrible!

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 06:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

TOTAL.
FUCKING.
CLASSIC.

makes me yearn for a nostalgic look back into the early 90's.
cross colors.
fades.
an urban youth i didn't have.
and i STILL love this song...

― eedd, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

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yeah I realize that, it just sounds like a Thing album with vocals to me

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:07 (9 months ago) Permalink

probably depends on whether you're more a fan of one vs. the other. sounds like a neneh cherry album with jazz backing to me.

― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:21 (9 months ago) Permalink

It's not "her" new album, it's an album by The Thing with her as guest vocalist.

the aggressiveness of your ownership claim on their behalf (over "her") is weird tho

― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

sounds like a neneh cherry album with jazz backing to me.

same, though i'm sure this is because i've been a neneh cherry fan for my entire life, pretty much, and had never heard of the thing before this year. but even so i can't see how you can't hear her personality stamped all over it.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

THEIR new album then, anagram.

Either way, it's hot. :)

― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

i am generally in favor of out music finding a way in. the thing is not really all that far out there, but i imagine that people think they are (or don't even want to give them a chance), and now that they've heard the thing as n cherry's backup band they might be more likely to consider listening to other stuff they've done.
good for the thing!

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

i've said this elsewhere but i'm really looking fwd to properly getting into jazz when i'm too old to go clubbing. and i LOVE what the thing do on this album, i love how their music and neneh's vocals mirror each other w/r/t the wildness/control tension.

i suspect la lechera intended to write "our" but i like the idea of "out" as an abbrev of "outré"

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

i always want to think that she's saying "harmolodics" at the beginning of buffalo stance.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:31 (9 months ago) Permalink

no, i totally meant out music -- music that is not in! it's out there. :)

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

No, I'm sure she meant "out" as in "way out"

xxp!

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

i like that usage too!

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

"Kisses on the Wind" is SO FUCKING GOOD!!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

I have never heard this before!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

I said on fb that the super bring piano reminds me of something you'd hear in a really euphoric 15 second outro, except it's all over the whole song.

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

I have never heard this before!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux))

can't really get my head around this!

― jed_, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

The only other track better than "Kisses on the Wind" is "Heart" ("Buffalo Stance" is a world apart).

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

xp it was never that big over here! She's kinda regarded as a one-hit wonder for "Buffalo Stance". I only heard "Kisses" it when I took the time to listen to Raw Like Sushi on Spotify last night.

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 17:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

"Kisses" went top ten in America, but it's true I never hear it.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 17:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

fcuking jamie oliver seems to have adopted this as his theme tune now, a delete from playlist moment if there ever was one...

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

fucking jamie oliver. What is he LIKE

― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

The "Kisses on the Wind" single is worth getting if you like it. It has an extended version of the tune, a nice Latin house remix of it by David Morales, plus a semi-acoustic non-album B side.

― Tuomas, Friday, 1 March 2013 07:57 (2 months ago) Permalink

Damn. Raw Like Sushi is magnificent. I don't think I've heard it for about 20 years but it sounds great this afternoon. I don't think its acknowledged as a "great album" (wtf is that/rockist etc?) but why not? All kinds of beautiful Madonna/psb/Public Enemy awesome all over it. Cherry is so charismatic and I love her. Very very much. Gonna check out Homebrew now - never heard it.

― kraudive, Sunday, 3 March 2013 15:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

HEART. HEART. YOU CAN'T BREAK MY HEART.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 March 2013 16:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

https://soundcloud.com/neneh-cherry/neneh-cherry-afrika-baby-bam

new track produced by four tet, neneh in beat poet mode. Not sure what I think of it yet :-\

― ok let's all fuck our pants to something new (wins), Sunday, 14 April 2013 19:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

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