Oh! The Fall John Peel Sessions box set! OH! you guys.

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"Faust Banana" is "Dktr Faustus" from Bend Sinister.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

It would probably the definitive Fall document for neophytes and veterans if it wasn't a box set.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

how come?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

because

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

They should put out an abridged, single CD version consisting of only tracks not available in original form on original albums. That would appeal to people who don't want to spend seventy dollars or whatever to hear these songs plus a lot of alternate versions that they might listen to once and then "file."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

What About Us

I am hoping against hope this is a Coasters cover.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim: it won't cost $70, for one thing. Even at the current crappy exchange rate you could get it from Action at around $40 plus postage, and my guess is you'll find it here for around that eventually, if even that. Still expensive but pretty reasonable nonetheless.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

but tim, that wouldn't appeal to people who don't know how they would survive with only one version of "glam racket" to listen to.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't know it was so reasonably priced. That makes me more interested in it, definitely.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

drooooool

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"C 'n' C Hassle Schmuck" is a cover version of "Do the Hucklebuck"... sort of

My Son Calls Another Man Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"I can't go on... Arthur Askey has just been shot...."

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

"23.03.91: The War Against Intelligence – Idiot Joy Showland – A Lot Of Wind – The Mixer

i remember this as if it were yesterday. wow. i must buy this."

I remember the two 1978 sessions as if they were yesterday.

What happened yesterday unfortunately is rather less clear.

I confidently predict that this presence or absence of this set from any individual's collection is going to rapidly become recognised as a one of the crucial defining indicators of that individual's hip quotient.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

and that's HIP! HIP! HIP! HIP! HIP! HIP! HIP! HIP! Hip quotient...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"What About Us" is not a cover

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

it's a song about the happiness of rabbits vis a vis world travel

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

"I confidently predict that this presence or absence of this set from any individual's collection is going to rapidly become recognised as a one of the crucial defining indicators of that individual's hip quotient."

Yeah, I don't agree. It's certainly a cooler thing than the umpteenth Fall live album, but it's still peripheral to the albums proper.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Peripheral perhaps but at the same time there have been some amazing performances over the years, often of material then-yet unreleased (and in some cases still). I think Douglas Wolk mentioned somewhere there's one session in particular that he's used to make people into Fall believers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Hip shmip. Peripheral shmperipheral. Here I am reading books about history of the last 30 years, when all I really need is a comprehensive Fall box.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

word.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"Yeah, I don't agree. It's certainly a cooler thing than the umpteenth Fall live album, but it's still peripheral to the albums proper."

I'm not sure quite what you're disagreeing with: that it should happen or that it will happen.

Fwiw I'm certainly not suggesting that I think that it should happen - but (provided it remains reasonably available) I'm convinced this box set will end up eclipsing every one of the individual albums proper as the "must own" Fall title.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, you could do a "pick only six" that would possibly be more "must own" than this box, from the proper Fall albums.

1. Extricate
2. The wonderful and Frightening
3. This nations saving grace
4. The one with Glam Racket and Free Range and that...
5. other
6. other

But, yeah.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the alternative "best of" that it's actually cool to own: it's deep, it's alternative and it suggests voluminous knoweldge of the artist; it's got the legendary John Peel's name on the front (so extra cool points there); it's not the boring old original recordings that everyone else has got - which suggests that the owner must be incredibly knowledgable and discerning because (presumably) they must know the originals well enough and be discerning and confident and individualistic enough to prefer these versions; just how much more could any aspiring young poseur ask for?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, that's certainly why I'm buying it anyway.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

But you said young poseur, didn't you, Stewart?

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Well? That's what I'm aspiring to be....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Speaking of covers - "I CAN HEAR THE GRASS GROW"?!?!?!?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't wait to get this! I have been on kind of a Fall kick the last few weeks.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a litlle bit pissed off that I bought that 2CD set which had 8 of the sessions on it.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad I held off on that myself! (I don't blame you for being annoyed regardless.)

4. The one with Glam Racket and Free Range and that...

That's two, actually -- Code: Selfish and The Infotainment Scan.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, the single from "The Infotainment scan" i.e. Grudgeful boyy had a free Range remix, that's why the conf.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCK. I might actually buy this. I totally don't need anymore Fall but FUCK.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

they covered "i can hear the grass grow" on the recent u.s. tour.

xpost

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"Speaking of covers - "I CAN HEAR THE GRASS GROW"?!?!?!?"

it is awesome

I cannot wait for this, the "Sparta FC" on here is defintive, like a lot of the vers of these songs

chris besinger (chris besinger), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I really wish they'd recorded the version of the New York Dolls' "Jet Boy" that they were doing a few years ago. (Although, if it was as bad as the Saints cover that's on The Marshall Plan, then never mind...)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

It probably was.

The "I can hear the grass grow" session was on that MES documentary on BBC4. no doubt to be repeated soon on BBC2...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I was just listening to The Fall track "The Classical" on that free CD from Mojo and right after MES delivers the immortal line "Where are the obligatory niggers?" there's a very obvious bum note on the bass almost as if Steve Hanley couldn't quite believe what he'd just heard - the timing is so perfect I really want this to be true but I'm sure it isn't...

My Son Calls Another Man Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 18 March 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link

why are we arguing about this? it's a fucking box set of the fall and it isn't one of those weird bootleggy things = HOORAY

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Hooray indeed.

Fall Street parties in April.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm afraid if I buy this I won't be able to leave the house for weeks.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Dadaismus: you're right. Classic(al)!

Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 March 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.visi.com/fall/news/pics/peelbox.jpg

'haitch' (haitch), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

it's very beige!

'haitch' (haitch), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

It looks like the Tony Hancock box sets.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

it looks a little too proper for the fall. though at least they aren't going for the faux-bootleg look that's become so prevalent on fall reissues.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I MUST BUY THIS

miccio (miccio), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

MY INNER 19-YEAR-OLD COMPLETIST (LONG PRESUMED DEAD, DEAD, DEAD) DEMANDS IT

miccio (miccio), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"why are we arguing about this?"

Not arguing so much as questioning how much I'd play the thing given that I have most of the tracks already on the albums proper.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

The Ideal Copy is selling the set at $54.99, which strikes me as a bit high but oh well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 March 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
so a colleague just comes hoying over with six lovely promo CDs of meaty fall goodness. which have apparently been reserved for, er, the theatre critic.

bastard.

i must buy this.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

(ha, and that was Antidotes off that session)

acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

That's almost worth getting even if you have the box already!

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:02 (ten years ago) link

Well that's a no brainer then.

millmeister, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:40 (ten years ago) link

This is my favorite ILM thread ever. And such a damn shame the lads don't record any radio sessions anymore, for anyone.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, they recorded an extra track as a prezzie for John Peel on their last ever Peel Session (as it turned out)

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

There was a small amount of 'other' BBC sessions (Kid Jensen or Mike Read or Janice Long or maybe Andy Kershaw), they probably should get compiled some place..

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

I don't suppose the links work, but here's a list of them (comments section has dates and corrections)

http://symphonyofghosts.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/fall-live-on-wireless-non-peel-radio.html

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

Discovered I had a £1 download credit on Amazon I didn't know about so I got this for £1.99.

get your RAWKs off (onimo), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

Which translates into #97 on the big chart.

michaellambert, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Really? Hey Yeah!

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link

Mind you, it does remind me when "Relationship and the Briefcases" got to number one in the Vitaminic "Alt/Lo-Fi" chart, because that week I bought two copies, one for me and one for the other guitarist on it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:09 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

ARE THERE ANY WHISPERS THAT THIS MIGHT COME OUT ON LP? HOW IS ONE SUPPOSED TO GET IT WITH NOTHING BUT A RECORD PLAYER? ITS NOT FAIR! PLEASE DO SOMETHING SOMEBODY

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 26 January 2018 07:56 (six years ago) link

OK, check the album chart today, this could be one of them if there are some in there...

Mark G, Friday, 26 January 2018 09:27 (six years ago) link

24.09.80: Container Drivers – Jawbone And The Air Rifle – New Puritan – New Face In Hell

This is quite some radio session. Didn't realize, or had forgotten, that "Jawbone" dated from the "Grotesque" era.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2018 09:39 (six years ago) link

OK, check the album chart today, this could be one of them if there are some in there...

This could be one of what if there are which in where?

Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 26 January 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

there could be some fall lps in the new album chart (published in about an hour)

and if there are some in there then one of that some in there could be the peel session box.

koogs, Friday, 26 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

that seems... wildly unlikely

Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link

though tbf there are three copies from 3rd-party sellers on Amazon. If someone pays the £732 asking price that counts as 2000 sales, right?

Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

Nothing in album or single chart that I can see

(And downloads count now, don't forget)

koogs, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

Ah well

Mark G, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

(And downloads count now, don't forget)

Which e-tailers have it for download? I only tried Amazon, iTunes/Apple, 7digital and Boomkat, but I thought that should have been a representative sample

Haribo Hancock (sic), Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link

Oh, I didn't mean the peel box specifically, was just pointing out that you don't need to buy CDs for something to chart.

(In fact, don't streams also count now?)

No idea where this stuff is available. Maybe the obvious interest will mean that improves.

koogs, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:40 (six years ago) link

I'm guessing that if Discogs/second-hand sales were chart eligible, there'd be a few in this week.

Mark G, Friday, 2 February 2018 08:15 (six years ago) link


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