― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link
― scott woods (s woods), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― cis (cis), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
(i.e. he is really AN ALIEN!!)
(it's got the loveliest melodic bit on that chorus)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
Whatever about Avril's passing abilities, she isn't pop-punk, is she? Sk8er Boi seems miles from Blink 182.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
TOO LATE, INFIDEL!
All this tepid crap -- Alien Ant Farm, Sum 41, Blink 182, Good fuckin' Charlotte, Avril Lavigne, Less Than Jake, Simple Plan, New Found Glory, etc.... are all as abjectly meaningless as the Trains, Matchbox 20s, Seven Mary Threes, Marcy Playgounds, Verve Pipes and Vertical Horizons. Likewise the Stainds, Disturbeds, Colds, Ademas, Salivas, P.O.D.s and Linkin Parks....
.....IT'S ALL CRAP!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
WHAT ABOUT VINES, HIVES, ETC
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:15 (twenty years ago) link
i am really digging the emo-pop (as opposed to punk-pop) lately. there is basically a whole new crop of bands that realized that the foo fighters' "everlong" was 1 million X more important than "smells like teen spirit".
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
and the goo-goo dolls mid-era stuff like "so far away".
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
I think my main problem with this stuff is in the production: There's not much of a historical reference point for the "sound" of the Backstreet Boys, so we just accept that "this type of music is, by nature, brutally overproduced and shiny"; whereas, with something attempting a "punk" sound, something with that much gloss is going to sound silly next to the tough and raw historical precedent set by bands like the Dead Boys, Ramones, et. al.
― Ben Boyer, Friday, 20 June 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link
i think the only reason i like the weakerthans is because it reminds me of propagandhi's softer moments.
― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
?!?!?!?!?!!!???????
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
Revis sounds like Creed listened to Hum.
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
KJ = old band
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
Fuckin' WATCH THAT, Junior!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
could NOT
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:41 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link
Let's go down to Mrs. Gooches for some apricots
Wait
Close the windowClose the window
MUSTARD GAS
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah, Jay, I'm not saying that's all the stuff is, just that ... trying to think of a way to put it. You know how high-school pop-punk bands can turn any moderately simple pop song into a punk cover by having punk drumming and playing the guitar chords as muted, distorted clicks? There's this basis of few-chords simple-melody pop it works from -- same goes for plenty of Belle and Sebastian or whoever -- which I don't think is super-difficult to assemble (hence high-school punk bands) but takes a lot to make work right.
I mean, every American rock kid I know learned to play by being in a band like this. You get the equipment. You write a song with a few chords and a catchy melody; probably you try to write funny lyrics. Everybody plays eighth notes. If things are going badly you yell "G!" before the bar that's on G, etc. As you get better you all start doing basic tricks and variations. And if you can do this with loads of grace and form, you might wind up playing "All the Small Things."
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
I haven't heard all the pop-punk out there now and to be frank based on what I HAVE heard, I'm not in the mood to hear more.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link
I think the more people wrongly simplify my stance the more I'll be amused. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:59 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 20 June 2003 22:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Boyer, Friday, 20 June 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Samuel Bloch, Sunday, 22 June 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
― lid, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link
what if you're like me, and you have a token pop-punk band that you like? wouldn't that be seen as dodgy here? (not that i give a fuck, but like ned, most of it just plain annoys me) for the record, my token pop-punk band is blink 182, they can craft some pretty good melodies out of about 3 notes, plus they're fun and danceable.
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link
I think the Hard-Ons are pop punk and everyone else can gtfo
― wilter, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link
^^dont remember posting that.
recently remembered 'pop and disorderly' by Limp which came out in 97. I just downloaded it, It's pretty good!
― wilter, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link
This Sdekicks album is p enjoyable
― calstars, Saturday, 24 January 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link
it's all right. last few songs are very good
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:48 (nine years ago) link
amazing thread
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link
(mostly the sidekicks record just made me really want to listen to the cymbals eat guitars album from last year, not that they necessarily sound alike, though maybe there's a case to be made for the former being pop-punk/indie and the latter being indie/emo)
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link
Wondering how any serious journalist or pundit tricked into promoting the Iraq War lives with the knowledge they were less skeptical of an international conflict than the tracklist for Rock Against Bush pic.twitter.com/fWtxKtZVps— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) March 20, 2023
You wrote for The New York Times and were further behind the curve than Sum 41— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) March 20, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 March 2023 23:32 (one year ago) link