"Can I say you're my girlfriend on Facebook?"

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Facebook is pretty useful. It makes keeping in touch with uni friends nice and easy. I'm young and went to a 'posh' uni though.

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 13:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

No-one has yet addressed the fact that the titular quote is incredible cute!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

jng, how long can you keep your uni account open in the States? Over here, perhaps a few months... i mean, you cannot really use Facebook (if I got the rules right now) to keep in touch with uni friends once you graduated

olenska (olenska), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

most universities offer alumni accounts.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

surely it stops people who aren't at uni going on it? what happens when you graduate?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

xpost, sorry.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

Over here, perhaps a few months

Says you. I've had mine for nearly 10 years after graduation by now.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

Aww yeah - I just signed up as an alumni! It makes me feels old and lecherous though. Like going to a student party would, I guess.

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

But Alumni can only perv on other Alumni? I might be wrong.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

Clearly I am, if I'm capitalising alumni.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

Haha, I started doing some work and clicked away from the register window, I guess I am not that bothered after all!

The sad truth is that I think it would make me feel lonely, and out of it! And I have a perfectly good LIVEJOURNAL for that arf arf ARF.

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm in the UK, so no idea about the US. I signed up with my uni email account a couple of years ago, and then just switched the profile over to my alumni email account when I graduated.

xpost

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

maybe we could have an ILX SOCIAL GROUP????

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

Its a really good way to stay in touch w people after you graduate.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Big Man On Campus! (I hope)

Yes. He seemed to know everyone and was walking around making sure people were having a good time.

I never signed up for an alumni e-mail account, and now I'm unsure of how to do so, but the only people I'd know on Facebook are young punks like deej, anyway.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Its a really good way to stay in touch w people after you graduate.
-- deej.. (clublonel...), June 27th, 2006.

a bit like MEETING THEM, HOLDING CONVERSATIONS, THAT KIND OF SHIT.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

As a current college student, I can vouch for how omnipresent it is. In the official UC Berkeley student questionnaire (rate the counselors from 1-10 etc.) the university had an entire section in the survey asking students about facebook. I can think of two people I know who *aren't* on it.

It's far classier than myspace because you can't change your page much. No background music. No videos. This is good.

Very recently though, there has been a very noticeable trend (in Berkeley at least...can't speak for the nation) to make your profile super-private and only visable to friends. People are either getting wary, or snobby, I'm not sure which.

starke (starke), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah its real easy to do that with my friends in San Francisco xp

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

A few more things:

1. My brother is a grad student and when he TAs a class, he always checks out his students' Facebook profiles and is sometimes surprised at what they're willing to divulge. (Then he stores this information in an Excel spreadsheet ... oh wait.)

2. I have a cousin who just finished his freshman year at Northern Illinois University. He tells me that as soon as he received his school e-mail address last summer, he immediately signed up on Facebook and found that dozens of other incoming students had done so as well. In fact, the ability to notate your dorm and room number within your profile meant that he knew nearly everyone in his hall before they ever actually met face to face.

3. Haha, my dad moderated a panel about Facebook last month.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

High school students can join it now too. Which is weird.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

See, that's not weird to me because as far as I'm concerned, EVERYONE under 25 is on it.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, trading facebooks was the first thing the staff did when we got to camp. I think the basic reason it's so much more universal than eg friendster is the total lack of crepey hookup connotations?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 14:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

he always checks out his students' Facebook profiles
Not always, just for the cute ones ;)

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

facebook is even creepier than myspace/friendster cuz then you can anonymously crepe on cute girls in your classes.

the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's strange--I do feel like there is a generational divide with facebook. I joined just this year, as a 24 year old grad student. But, the first year grad students, who are right out of college, already had facebook accounts from undergrad days. they just had to switch over the designation to their new university affiliation. But the point is they already had them and were totally accustomed to using them, whereas they had convinced me to join, and then were disappointed when facebook did not function the same way they were used to (nobody checked it frequently enough, thereby making announcing parties useless).

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

Did you read the Lewis Flyer article yet, M.?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

Regarding the quote in topic, yeah, the relationship status on Facebook does lead to a lot of awkward situations. A friend of mine had that she was married to her boyfriend on Facebook. After they broke up for a while, he eventually changed the setting to say single which automatically did it for her profile too. It was like a whole 'nother stage of breaking up.

There's an annoying girl at my job who has some serious growing up to do. One of her many horrifying common behaviors is playing "house" at the job and designating different coworkers as different members of her family. For a while she had a huge crush on me, and thus I became the husband. Whenever new people were hired, she'd excitedly hug me and exclaim in her nasal voice, "This is Derek, he's my husband! He's the best husband in the world!" Then she'd switch to a more serious tone to warn the girls that they'd better not flirt with me. Terrifying. Of course, she wanted to marry me on Facebook. After weeks of continually reminding me that I have yet to click "yes" that we are indeed married, I finally gave in and did it. After a while, trying to finally give her the message that I'm not interested, I switched to being married with another one of our coworkers, a girl I'm good friends with but my "wife" hated. When she saw that I'd switched the status, she had a real break down. Female co-workers told me about her heart break over the incident.

In conclusion, jesus christ, be glad you're not on Facebook.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

why is this any better than myspace? i don't get it.
-- dog latin (doglati...) (webmail), June 27th, 2006. (dog latin)

Certain features that make it really useful for college students. You can list your classes in your profile and the page can create a list for you of people in your classes. You can easily find people in your class to ask them questions about upcoming tests, what the homework was, etc. Also, unlike MySpace, there's more local community centered stuff since the only people on Facebook I interact with are fellow UNCC students and I don't see anyone from Harvard. For example there's groups with local interest like "I LOVE " rather than just "I LOVE LIMP BIZKIT." Like other people mentioned, there's the announcing/organizing events too.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

But what is this thing that US students say is now more important than sex and texting?

MORE IMPORTANT THAN TEXTING?!?!?!?!??!

matlewis (matlewis), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

he eventually changed the setting to say single which automatically did it for her profile too. It was like a whole 'nother stage of breaking up.

That is pretty harsh.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think the basic reason it's so much more universal than eg friendster is the total lack of crepey hookup connotations?

Au contraire. I think a lot of people use it for exactly that reason. That's the impression I've gotten, anyway.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

Facebook is fucking annoying. I'm an elderly undergrad, surrounded by people who use it as a substitute for actual communication. So I decided to get kicked off of Facebook but it's not working yet--I've replaced my entire profile with excerpts from Pilgrim's Progress and some Duran Duran slash fiction, I've started reporting every person whose profile says "Libertarian," etc. No luck.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

surrounded by people who use it as a substitute for actual communication.

hi, do you know the internet?

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

hah yeah wtf how is it different than anything else on the internet?

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

that facebook thing would have been so useful for my social life in '96. and myspace too. and p2p files exchange softwares (I was so informationally poor). also, ah, if only I had pentium3 +highspeed+100gig storage+ free video editing software back then, when
i was more interested in cinema , because most of the canonic cinematographic trips were new to me etc good grief I should have been born in '81

S. (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

S. (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

believe it or not, there are things better for your social life than exponentially raising the amount of time you spend sitting in front of a computer.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

i don't.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hating facebook doesn't make much more sense than hating cellphones, the yellow pages, AIM and email. It's a social lubricant. If people were really replacing their social lives with it, facebook wouldn't be filled with ten trillion pictures of people getting drunk at parties.

starke (starke), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

(which would be a better thing to complain about)

starke (starke), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

mickey, the way I see it it's all about saving time rather than wasting it,of course; it would have been useful in my early 20's to help me find out fun places to go out , with with people I have affinities with, rather than rely mostly on luck. anyhoo, now these apps are less "urgent" to me at this time in my life.

S. (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

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S. (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

If people were really replacing their social lives with it, facebook wouldn't be filled with ten trillion pictures of people getting drunk at parties.

It's not that social networking replaces your social life, it just... mediates it. Instead of personally inviting people to parties via word of mouth/telephone/email or just throwing it up on a flyer, you're sending it to a reasonably targeted, much larger group than you'd be comfortable calling. The downside is that pretty soon you're doing the majority of communication through there, any "event" that can vary from a party or concert to two people sitting around drunk turns into some "scandalous" photo diary, and there's the online backchannel that sucks everyone in.

I've been around people where there's this obnoxious feedback loop where they're pretty much trying to come up with new people to befriend and more pictures/content to put up on things like myspace, and half of what they talk about is myspace. Urgh.

business up front, party entrance at side door (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

That's an interesting way of putting it.

Still, why is word of mouth/telephone/email an inherently better form of communication? I agree that it's a "larger group than you'd be comfortable calling" but I think that's very likely a good thing. For example, tonight I'm going to play soccer with a casual friend from a class. He invited me and the rest of the group with a facebook message. It would have been awkward for an acquaintance to call/email, and probably would have never happened.

starke (starke), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 18:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

man, facebook was so much better back when there were only like 8 schools on it

lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

snob

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Facebook's early history is pretty snobby and reflects the fact that it was started by a Harvard kid. The schools were added pretty much in order of prestige. No doubt the public school kids just weren't mature enough to deal with such technology until much later.

starke (starke), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

Now they even have community colleges, though. Anyone who takes an adult continuing education course could get on there! It'd be amazing if people in cooking and wine tasting classes started using facebook to set up events and communicate outside of class.

business up front, party entrance at side door (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 20:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

The influx of philistines brought Facebook down to Myspace levels of social networking websites, ones it could never recover from! Oh, how I long for the days of only having to add friends from ivy league schools.

lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 20:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

he eventually changed the setting to say single which automatically did it for her profile too. It was like a whole 'nother stage of breaking up.

I had a friend whose girlfriend changed her facebook relationship status to "single" in order to make him jealous, or something.

31g (31g), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 20:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

zuck or someone might've said something like that somewhere. google it

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:56 (4 months ago) Permalink

"mobile" in terms of the phone technology or in terms of users? Such an odd construction ...

sarahell, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:01 (4 months ago) Permalink

odd out of the context of the tech industry, but within it no one would bat an eye at my saying that

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:03 (4 months ago) Permalink

i think their basic point is that mobile doesn't like kitchen sink apps, and their existing app is an example of that, so they're going to break out that functionality

― markers, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:04 (4 months ago) Permalink

people including those at facebook seem to think that "focused" apps like snapchat and instagram are more native to smartphones and that people prefer those types of experiences to more complicated ones like the traditional facebook app, which attempts to mimic the functionality of their desktop website

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:05 (4 months ago) Permalink

i actually sometimes get annoyed that the fb phone app doesn't work the exact same way as the one for my computer -- i know people that will just use the "internet" version of it on their phones (rather than the mobile apps) because they have "download new app" fatigue & resentment

sarahell, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:07 (4 months ago) Permalink

i would prefer one app too for fb but that's not the strategy they're taking

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:08 (4 months ago) Permalink

It's interesting that Google can get away with separate apps for Voice, Drive, Gmail and G+ (ok, whatever on that last one), but Facebook is so branded as a one-stop shop that splitting features into different applications does seem counter-intuitive.

Kinda like how Microsoft sites still insist on using Searchlight. Download a whole other thing just to look at your website? Nah, thanks anyway.

pplains, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:14 (4 months ago) Permalink

facebook has always been seen as one thing: messages, events, photos, whatever were all parts of one thing called facebook.

google has been seen as separate things forever, and only over the past few years have they tried to change that.

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:26 (4 months ago) Permalink

google was google search and google drive and google reader, none of which had much to do with the other, and facebook was FACEBOOK.

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:26 (4 months ago) Permalink

so, in both cases it has to do with design decisions from years ago that impact how users think of their products today.

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:27 (4 months ago) Permalink

i should really go look for that zuckerberg quote, but somewhere he says something like, on the desktop it made sense for us to be a website, but on mobile things are different. which isn't a bad way to think about things.

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:29 (4 months ago) Permalink

Those reasons possibly why Facebook has this Evil Empire dark side rep like Microsoft back in the 90s while Google, which is bigger and much more loosey-goosey with private info and stats, still gets a pass.

pplains, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:35 (4 months ago) Permalink

its also a huge misunderstanding of your user base xp

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 28 April 2014 17:41 (4 months ago) Permalink

facebook also working on decoupling from the other end in that they left their big acquisitions instagram and whatsapp as separate products, its a really smart big move away from their previous just keep adding all possible functionality of every app to facebook eg location data like foursquare asynchronous follow relationships like twitter, like it mightve taken the constraints of mobile to make them realize how bad that approach was for facebooks usability but it was also bad for the desktop vers imo

lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:42 (4 months ago) Permalink

Those reasons possibly why Facebook has this Evil Empire dark side rep like Microsoft back in the 90s while Google, which is bigger and much more loosey-goosey with private info and stats, still gets a pass.

― pplains, Monday, April 28, 2014 1:35 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like this has mostly to do w the fact that facebook is social and really wants to show pics of your titty bar field trip to your aunt

lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:46 (4 months ago) Permalink

its also a huge misunderstanding of your user base xp

― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, April 28, 2014 1:41 PM

fuck the "user base"

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:00 (4 months ago) Permalink

Everybody be cool, download WeChat

, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:13 (4 months ago) Permalink

i always thought you were james franco

markers, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Did we talk about the "Facebook makes you feel happy/sad" story anywhere?

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Sunday, 6 July 2014 00:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

"Share this on Facebook"

, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

In my tl just now, a post that reads:

Can anyone who plays the ukulele teach me how to pluck a couple of hipster chords?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 02:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

https://www.facebook.com/mentions

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

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