Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (2071 of them)
What the fuck are you doing here, Colin? :)

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dan -- you saw a KTMA on the air? I envy and worship you, my liege.

Colin -- yeah, I remember you were, but the stalking? No, not that.

The boards also attracted a number of true mental cases, most unforgettably KeijiKJ. He was similar to Gondola Blob in that he indulged in casebook net.kook behavior: delusions of professionalism, snottily dismissive of any random thing, threw around the word "clique" a lot. I've even heard stories that he scared the bejesus out of BB members during the first con. I personally had a thoroughly pointless argument with him about the population of the cities in California.

Concerning Mike, I'll say this: there are quite a few times during the Sci-Fi-era when he seemed to be sending out his performance via Fed Ex. Sad, because it was clear after CC he was capable of much better. But you know, a lot of the Sci-Fi-era episodes that initially seemed kinda minor and kinda eh to me now strike me as being thoroughly solid.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

That was my first exposure to MST3K. I had no idea that it was going to become so huge; I only thought that snarky Minnesotans would find it funny!

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well, you're lucky and we hate you. There. ;-)

I'm waiting on Mike's next collection of essays and novel myself. The Megacheese collection was a scream.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Michael: With you and Dave R. here, it was simply a matter of time.

Stalking resulted from an unfortunate IRL encounter with a nice enough person. I thought it was a lovely afternoon, she thought it was TRUE LOVE FOREVER. Eek. The story resolved harmlessly enough -- she found TRUE LOVE FOREVER again with another MSTie, and this time it was returned.

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What the hell do I have to do with anything, Mr. Meeder? I've never seen you before in my life! (Weren't you supposed to get me a job?)

MST3K was never that big a part of my life - I watched it sporadically, and I always seemed to be in the wrong state of mind to truly enjoy it. I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

David Raposa, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

DR: I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

But wasn't Mike balder than Joel? I'm confused. No matter. I'm balder than both, and I agree with David.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm watching Rocketship X-M right now and it looks as if Joel is balder than Mike. I agree wholeheartedly that BALD(ING) = SEXXXY (my real and imaginary boyfriends are testament to this) but Joel really isn't bald enough to be sexy-bald.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

grr, watch it daddino.

ethan, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Le huh?

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Let me second Ned's Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese rec. Even if you don't like or are not familiar with MST3K it is an extrodinarily funny take on a lot of overblown movies of the 80s and 90s.

Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Had you gotten that job I mentioned, David, you'd have been laid off about five months ago. So I did you a favor by being a hopeless slacker.

I think that my slight preference for Joel has something to do with a sense that the guy's a bit . . . off, where Mike is merely charming and funny.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Merely? I wouldn't go that far, though he certainly projects more immediate affability. But every so often he comes out with something or takes on a role that makes you a bit nervous. Thus, when he wigged out about his old temp job in one episode, and in Time Chasers where he played his drunk angry brother or cousin, I forget which. Sure, it's a role, but he inhabited them rather well. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Sampo once remarked that in interview, one can sense that there's something very dark and private about Mike just percolating below the surface, and that's colored my impression of him ever since. One thing to remember: "I suffer from excruciating headaches that dozens of neurologists have tried unsuccessfully to treat. I think I might be possessed."

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I appreciate the fact that both Mike and Bridget are very private about their home life, but from the sound of it from some of Bridget's comments it's a very happy family, lots of singing and nuttiness and fun with their kids. A good reminder that the show was, after all, just a performance.

But yes, Mike has the angst in there somewhere. He just tempers it very beautifully -- thus his legendary turn as Morrissey.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Fair enough -- Mike probably *is* a churning cauldren of angst. But I think he (and his rage) are probrably more based in reality, where Joel strikes me as more otherworldly. Which I prefer (slightly, only ever so slightly) in humor.

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Oh, about time for a revival (thanks in part to a recent link from Mike D.). Actually, there were a number of episodes I didn't have, mostly from the sixth season, but my Seattle trip has given me the chance to dub a lot of those from Brian's collection, yay me. Plus I finally have Daddy-O and Fugitive Alien, that took long enough!

To add to the book recommendations -- Mike N.'s general essay book Mind Over Matters is another fine read (the TV essay alone is some kinda genius, the mock 19th century novel even more so), while I very much liked Kevin Murphy's A Year at the Movies. Chris Piuma mentioned he felt it was fairly Joe Queenan-like and therefore not as distinct as it could be, but I think it was handled very well and worked as both microstudy of the moviegoing experience and general reflection. Certainly any of the ILF/film-going hounds on this board should consider reading/borrowing a copy, at least. Then there's Mike's new novel Death Rat, which I really need to order next month...

And praise to all the other castmembers doing things and the continual rolling out of more DVDs, though apparently Rhino says they've exhausted what they have the rights to right now and are looking into securing more, hopefully...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...although a quick check of the SatNews link sez there's some sort of further DVD thing coming out later this year, hm! Good thing to know. Also, anyone in Minneapolis can go to a writing workshop taught by Mary Jo Pehl next month, which I think would be great (I'm an unabashed fan of hers but she seems to really grate for a lot of MSTies...).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

is this ever shown in the UK?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It may still be on the Sci-Fi Channel UK, but your best bet is to go on S0ulS33k and download entire episodes (which are about 700MB a pop, FWIW).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've never come across it here, Mark - but I have never had the Sci-Fi Channel.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It was certainly on (late night) on the Sci-Fi channel a couple of years ago.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that sounds great, rah Mike! Nicole, I might be able to help with dubbing too though I still need a second VCR, but also please drop me a line about another possible source...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

FYI, Best Brains Inc. has its own little shop with some non-Rhino treasures. I highly recommend "Mr. B's Lost Shorts" which has the hands-down best short, "Mr. B Natural" - you know, the one with the ridiculously perky, questionably-gendered Neverland shill for Conn brass instruments.

"Bad touch."
"Does this mean I like guys now?"
"I feel ill."
"Spanking time!"

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It is a thing of beauty, that particular short. And chilling horror. Yeah, there are two short comps that are on DVD, but neither contain that gem. It's possible this thing Rhino is promising is some sort of basement-clearing compilation of all the various video oddities that have surfaced from Best Brains -- the second Poopie tape (the first is a DVD bonus with Manos, the scrapbook, more shorts like that, etc. But we'll see, I guess! (My other irrational hope is a full-on special edition of the movie...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Keep in mind that the fidelity on these files is sometimes suprisingly good considering the size, and sometimes fairly bad, but even the worst files usually have more than enough detail for a person to get what's going on.

I'm hoping the DVD is a Santa Claus vs. The Martians/Santa Claus double fun pak. It is going to come out late 2003, after all.

Later I may want to say something about MST3K in light of Mark's venting on Zappa, but right now I want to go to Central Park and maybe the Malevich exhibit before it starts raining (again).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink



Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the tuba is like a fat jolly king! knew your father I did!

This show got me through middle school.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Live fast, die young, leave a fat, bloated, ugly corpse.

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"That squares my breasts!"

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 25 May 2003 20:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've only seen about four episodes of MST3K, but "Mr. B Natural" has got to be one of the funniest shorts ever! "We're white, we're white, we're really, really white..." I obv need to get a-downloadin on this show.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It is good to see the newer folks here who have the love. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 May 2003 00:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've only seen a couple but I didn't get the point. Why not just rent the original B-movies and come up with your own sarcastic comments?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 26 May 2003 00:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well...that is the point, kinda. The AOL MSTies used to monkey-pile together in a chat room, and riff like mad to cable TV movies or rented VHS tapes. I remember Congo and A Star Is Born being particularly good for that.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 26 May 2003 00:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I have no TV. I have no VCR. But I do have about 40 tapes of MST3K, well over 100 episodes, mostly Seasons 2-7, with a few 1s and KTMAs.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 26 May 2003 00:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'll admit mst3ks were like bad movies with training wheels for me (and yeah, I love watching b-movies with friends now), but the best episodes still leave me crying.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 May 2003 01:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hard core MST3K-ites with lots of bandwidth should check out the Digital Archive Project which is where I'm getting most of my episodes from.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 26 May 2003 06:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

blimey chris, that site's enough to make a young man run out and get broadband and a huge eff-off new harddrive...

(current space on home PC C-Drive abt 700meg, it are old and small)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 26 May 2003 10:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

did I mention that I saw them live w/Joel at the Uptown Theater, one of the TWO PERFORMANCES EVER w/him? well I did < /gloat>

"Santa Claus, you're coming with us!"
"You're coming to town."

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 26 May 2003 14:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I do have broadband and a sum total of 150GB of storage over a couple of drives. My consumption rate of DVD-R blanks is pretty scary.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've only seen a couple but I didn't get the point. Why not just rent the original B-movies and come up with your own sarcastic comments?

Because I'm not funny. And neither are you.

NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"nipple nipple tweak tweak AWAY!"

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

sundar OTM. funny at times, but c'mon snapping along to a movie is way up there on the annoyometer.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

And to explain the 'point' a bit more to the unbelievers Sundar and Gff, or at least note the method -- the Best Brains put in a lot of effort and practice over time to make what seemed like a casual delivery of comments done on the spot be just that rather than the intensively scripted effort it really was. When they're firing on four cylinders at their best, it's a marvel.

Fave all time moment ever, from any episode -- this snippet from Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, delivered and timed JUST RIGHT:

MARTIAN: "What soft, and round, and you put it on the end of a stick --"

SERVO: "An elf?"

MARTIAN: "-- and green?"

SERVO: "Oh, a DEAD elf."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"It's not funny when other people do it" is one argument, but "do it yourself" is silly. Why watch a movie at all, then, when you could make your own? Because that's what people do.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Someone should invent MST3K glasses with the robots printed on the bottoms of the lenses for people to wear to movies, except that it would be unnecessary, since the robots are already built into the cognitive and aesthetic faculties of an entire culture. MST3K assumes its audienes are so impotent that they can't enjoy even "bad" films first hand but can derive pleasure from them only over the shoulders of robots.

Chris Fujiwara (sounding a little prim), here.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(I don't endorse his opinion fully, btw, but hey dissent and all.)

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Argh, that article. Did I ever want to smack up Fujiwara after reading it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Fujiwara = fun hata x10,000,000

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i think the original appeal was partly that people born in the '60s and '70s shared the experience of watching dreadful movies on TV when "there was nothing else on," which is now extinct

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, the passage of time inevitably demonstrates how much of a snapshot it all was. But a possible comparison point -- Monty Python was just as explicitly steeped in its own time and place, and TV culture, and won a wider audience beyond that which (AFAICT) continues to the present. That said it's all so much legacy now.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:29 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Some more backers-only news from Joel -- take this bit as you choose:

And in the meantime, the great news is the new shows are turning out really fine. It’s so interesting seeing Jonah, Baron and Hampton’s riff styles emerge, and remember: like some of you, Jonah, Baron and Hampton grew up watching Mystery Science Theater, and as you’ll soon see, movie riffing is in their DNA! It's also just amazing how great Felicia and Patton did as the next Mads. I’m just knocked out. They’re obviously both such talented pros, but they totally bring it to these new episodes.

Now, from what I can tell – and based on showing the pilot to a few close friends – it’s a slightly different tempo than the movie riffers of yore. To me, that makes sense. It’s simply a function of new people (both writers and performers) coming in contact with these films and the show format. And you know, even though it’s an updated version of MST3K, I really feel like the original spirit of the show is still there. Hope you think so too.

So yeah: when the new episodes come out, I hope you'll give your ears time to adjust to the “now sound” of MST 2017. I think you'll like what you hear!

No formal release date still.

Plus, Funko are making Crow and Tom Servo figures:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2017 19:04 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Oh and having said this:

Will be seeing Trace and Frank again at SF Sketchfest in a couple of weeks.

This was in fact unsurprisingly a treat. (It was a week ago and the perfect antidote to a stupid day, obv.) The movie in question was a truly dire demi-film noir obscurity, Walk The Dark Street, starring pre-Rifleman Chuck Connors as a clenched-jaw Korean War vet psycho:

A perfect experience down to the horrible transfer. Written and directed by the guy who wrote Robot Monster, Wyott Ordung (no, really). Further MST3K connection out of nowhere: the guy who played the leering assistant in Racket Girls, "Joe," plays a store clerk at one point. If you have seventy minutes to kill, here's the film straight up:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2017 19:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Wow Joel sounds really uncomfortable with the result...

Evan, Friday, 27 January 2017 20:22 (four weeks ago) Permalink

tried watching this, it's pretty weak. he doesn't seem to have a funny bone in his body.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 January 2017 23:38 (four weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I have questions

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2017 23:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Though I see it's part of a broader effort:

The licensing program is helmed by Elie Dekel, of Dekel Brands. Strategic partners for licensing and merchandising on board thus far include:

· Dark Horse (serialized comics, graphic novels, coffee-table book and gift items)
· FUNKO (vinyl figures, and FUNKO-POP figures)
· Changes (t-shirts, tops, sweatshirts)
· Insight Editions (Ultimate Episode Guide, trivia books, journals)
· Great Eastern (buttons, patches, stickers, pins, gifts and novelties)
· Just Funky (gifts, beverage/barware, key chains, auto accessories, table-top gifts)
· Zen Monkey Studios (t-shirts, sweatshirts)

Most interested in an Ultimate Episode Guide -- I wonder if it's meant to be a collation of the original book plus the four seasons that followed (plus the forthcoming one, I guess).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2017 23:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Okay, the word just came down via a mailout from Joel:

The new season of Mystery Science Theater 3000 will premiere on Netflix on April 14, 2017.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 05:53 (four days ago) Permalink


Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 06:51 (four days ago) Permalink


to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 08:59 (four days ago) Permalink

god i hope this doesn't suck

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 14:22 (four days ago) Permalink

predicting that we'll hate episode 1, think they improved by episode 4

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 14:23 (four days ago) Permalink

This is all happening right before Kate and I go on our mid-April vacation so I'll watch the first episode, ponder at it, then come back after vacation and see what everyone's shouting about.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:25 (four days ago) Permalink

Oh and we have cast photo:

Should I be concerned the backdrop looks...flat?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:26 (four days ago) Permalink

Also, the neo-Mads in white? Huh.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:28 (four days ago) Permalink

xpost probably makes it easier to roll that pile of dough in the middle around

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:29 (four days ago) Permalink

And a commenter noted that Gypsy is now hanging from the rafters.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:30 (four days ago) Permalink

jonah ray is annoying

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:58 (four days ago) Permalink

I'm going into this suspicious. It's the only safe approach.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 16:51 (four days ago) Permalink

New mad look is cool IMO. Not into the fat-shaming above, sorry. Bracing myself for this to maybe suck horribly but hoping it's maybe kinda okay? Show has survived at least two initially-rough reboots and I guess it'd be good of me to give it at least a fair shake.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 17:04 (four days ago) Permalink

More than anything it's the lack of immediate continuity (all previous reboots as such only involved one major character change at a time, so I find claims equating them with this disengenuous) combined with the more...I can't say 'pro' feeling but as has been noted several times earlier in the thread, this isn't a homegrown off the radar effort bubbling up, but a whole bunch of well known quantities, not all of whom I'm fond of.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 17:13 (four days ago) Permalink

I agree with all that for sure, which is why I have my reservations and fears. In genral I think it's a bad idea to try to recapture old magic and get lightning to strike again, and in general there's just no way that MST can be *special* in 2017 the way it was twenty-five years ago. Buuuut it is at least possible that if the first ep really sucks that the fifth sucks a little less as the writers get comfortable with each other, see how stuff sounds/feels in the theater, maybe hit on the right voices/material for the cast... I dunno.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 17:16 (four days ago) Permalink

I mean, I'm all for trashing bad movies in whatever format, just make it entertaining and good.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 17:48 (four days ago) Permalink

i've seen some official Rifftrax feat. guest riffers and they were shockingly boring. like any comedy it's all about the delivery

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 23:09 (four days ago) Permalink

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.