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pros: no you

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

A definite pro, which I really miss now that I'm not living there, is the variety and frequency of cheap flights to all over Europe.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pro - London "pay premium" in many jobs.

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

...but balanced out by some of the steepest housing costs in the world.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

Not really - a lot of places (Edinburgh being a close one to my knowledge) isn't far off on housing costs, but with a significantly lower salary due to *quality of life* weighting.

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

The average house price in Edinburgh is £162,446 and in Greater London it's £287,342.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

It may seem as if house prices are expensive in Edinburgh, but relative to the proximity to the centre of town, it's nowhere near. My friend sold her 2 bed flat in Stockbridge for £260,000, but in London, a flat that nice, in such a nice area so close to town, would have been much more expensive than that. Given how long it takes me to get into work, the equivalent in edinburgh would be falkirk!

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Average salary, Edinburgh vs London, Madchen? (I would look, but am having a crisis at work at present)

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Not necessarily indicative, but average salary of academic staff at UCL: £31.4k, at Edinburgh Uni: £32.0k.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

That's pretty much what you'd expect, though, given that Edinburgh and UCL are on roughly the same level prestige-wise.

My friend sold her 2 bed flat in Stockbridge for £260,000

How long ago? I'd think something like that could well go for double that now.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yes, Caitlin, which is why it might be a good place to find the semi-mythical London weighting kicking in; similar institutions but apparently paying around the same despite the costlier environment of London.

(And London weighting, when it is available, is a piffling amount of money compared to housing costs; it hardly approaches the 77% gap in house prices highlighted by Madchen).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Average salary in Edinburgh is £19,038 and in London it's £25,124 (from National Statistics Online).

So

Average house price in London is 1.77 x that in Edinburgh
Average salary in London is 1.32 x that in Edinburgh

But I'm rubbish with statistics so somebody else can manipulate the figures to demonstrate what they think about them.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

When I moved to Glasgow in February 2002 I reckoned that my salary was about a third less, but my rent was about halved.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was surprised when i looked in an estate agent's window in Bloomsbury at how reasonable the prices for studio flats in that area were, maybe that's cos the Edinburgh prices are getting so ridiculous and i'm using them as my benchmark. I'm glad i bought when i did, wouldn't be able to afford it now.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

My position is quite weird - by moving to London I would be in a much better position to buy a property than I am in Edinburgh - maybe that is because I am actually moving to the market, rather than being in a single-employer job for the city I live in.

3underscore (___), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think the key is to see London as a lot of villages all close together.

This is the thing I really love about London.

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

Londoners...how does one report a black cab for refusing a fare? I've been googling but can't find a way to report it. Also he was driving while eating a kebab.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 4 October 2010 11:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

thanks guys...i've reported him. let the powers of official justice deal with him!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 4 October 2010 11:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

i am going to london in late april to visit some friends and 'hang'

anything i should be doin' there? fun things cool things?

day trips?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

You should be planning a FAP

And possibly seeing Lauryn Hill in concert

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wonder if lauryn would 'fancy a pint'

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly tho i have never met any london ilxors i dont think

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am going to be lookin' around for funnish stuff to do during the days while my friends are at work. should i take day trips anywhere?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

definitely do a beer with some of us. what sort of day trips do you have in mind?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

im not sure haha! i just thought maybe like... day trips would be cool? ihavent seen any of england outside of london.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

except in movies.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oxford and Cambridge are easy day trips on the train. Worth seeing one or the other.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was thinking bout that ya!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 05:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just be aware that a round trip train ticket to Brighton costs approximately 1 million pounds

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, even in the off-season? (is april the off-season?)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lunchtime is about as off-season as it gets these days.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Coach is reasonably quick to oxford (90 mins) and about half the price of the train.

thread summary:
q) what should i do in london?
a) get the hell out!

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahah noooooo

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

train tickets are a lot more affordable when bought in advance, but then you're supposed to travel only on that specific train.

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Parks is a good idea, for things to do in london in actual london. Through Regent's Park and up Primrose Hill is a decent stroll ending with a good view over the city.

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am very into taking 'walks' (free, fun, photos)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

walking along the riverside, from e.g. battersea bridge to tower bridge, is kind of a must

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i will do that!!

excited to see what's playing at BFI! seeing l'atalante the last time i was in london, some years ago, was a highlight of my cinemagoing life

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

tmi probably but the river walk from battersea to vauxhall is a bit of a pain in the ass imo, lots of the riverfront is inaccessible and you can wind up getting lost in a maze of old industria and new sterile housing. but, it can be an adventure.

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah trains to brighton are not ridic expensive if booked well in advance. def worth popping down if the weather's nice. parks-wise i'd say hampstead heath is a must if you have a) good weather and b) some ppl to explore it with

jabba hands, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

the walk from finsbury park up to alexandra palace is great

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

without knowing what specifically is on where i'd recommend the south bank as a good place for visitors to hang. if the weather's nice it can be pretty chilled, there's usually a good exhibition or two around there as well as various interesting concerts etc in the evening.

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

more good walking to be had along the regents canal, pretty much any stretch between limehouse and little venice has got interesting things to look at and goes past lots of nice parks, pubs, etc.

jabba hands, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome! thanks for all this guys.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah trains to brighton are not ridic expensive if booked well in advance. def worth popping down if the weather's nice. parks-wise i'd say hampstead heath is a must if you have a) good weather and b) some ppl to explore it with

― jabba hands, Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:27 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is there a way of knowing in advance what the weather is going to be like?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.positiveweathersolutions.co.uk

Stevie T, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

s1ocki that question is at this very moment producing smirks all around the britILX

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

a six pack of toilet duck

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

when it's payday

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

la dee da

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

time was you would joke about drinking a six pack of toilet duck in the street

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

really cleaned up the street

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is this the London thread?

Did you see this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/magazine/china-mieville-london.html?emc=eta1

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

/\/\/\

Say something about it

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i read that and wasnt sure what to think

what should i think

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 04:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

should i cancel my trip

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 04:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Definitely, you don't want to hang out with racists and alcoholics.

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 04:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

"eyes roll with the duh".

Fizzles, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Say something about it

it's not interesting enough to, really. mostly it reminded me that i don't get along with miéville's prose at all.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 07:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fluff piece that ran alongside it (what are the LDN equivs of these NYC things iirc) was actually more interesting

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 07:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The mayor is a ninja of bumptiousness"

koogs, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 08:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lex otm, esp re: the fluff. Such an effort to read and although I recall vaguely agreeing with him I can't remember a single specific thing that he says.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

read the first page and had no idea what thesis he was attempting to expound, beyond a few 'pensions! strikes! olympics!' handwaving signifiers.

God arrives for the apocalypse, having been traveling at the speed of (ledge), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not written for Londoners really though is it? I mean most of us will be familiar with most of the arguments and issues in it.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

/Say something about it/

it's not interesting enough to, really. mostly it reminded me that i don't get along with miéville's prose at all.

this x 1000. absolutely convinced he dictates his novels, and what interested me about the article most was how its prose hobbles along.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Are you all posting from the banlieues of London? Is there anything I can do to help?

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

suggest banlieu

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha very good

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

ty

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

banlieuy jagger

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah thats great

judith, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink


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