Rolling 2011 thread where I buy and listen to jazz albums for the first time ever

Yeah Joe in Japan is good in terms of energy but it's a little choppy at times.

― bin caught laden (Hurting 2), Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is my fave 70s henderson (and not just because of the excellent cover)

― tylerw, Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

might i suggest some anthony braxton?
very rarely does it "swing" but you get some super mathy mentalism ( at least on the early stuff before he started plying his "ghost trance music" ethos). also lots of large bass sarrusophones / contrabass clarinet / sax as large as your house business. he hasn't demonstrated "fire" to me very often but nearly always tickles the synapses to a state of delight & has comedy arsequake raspberry noises.
you can get "this time" & "anthony braxton" (or "B-X2NOI47A"as it's sort of otherwise known)on CD for pennies right now, & also "time zones" w/ richard teitelbaum which is him w/ teitelbaum's radiophonic electronics - amazing. "3 compositions of new jazz" is definitely also worth a shot, but after that you're taking your life into your own hands. "donna lee" does swing, but tends to be pricey. Also henry threadgill is worth a shot, particularly "too much sugar for a dime" & "making a move" which employ a 2xtuba bass section with widdly guitars. also "rag bush & all" which you can pick up cheapish on vinyl - kinda new orleans funeral band which to my ears sounds texturally like a zappa dance jam without the widdle. it's what i imagine "harmolodic" things should sound like.

― iglu ferrignu, Monday, 9 May 2011 08:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never run across Anthony Braxton in the shops here. I have his live collaboration with Wolf Eyes (which is basically a Wolf Eyes set featuring Braxton as a side player). I'll poke around as I shop for the ones you mentioned, though. Thanks!

HOOS: I haven't heard any other Henderson yet, maybe that's why In Japan is so great... I've nothing to compare it to!

― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 9 May 2011 12:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been meaning to update this thread so badly but have been banned for the past mont

?! ilxor gets banned, but geir does not. the mind boggles.

― no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whoops... self-banned, I should have clarified.

― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

A little time away does me some good once in a while!

― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 9 May 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Came across and bought the following this week:

Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers - Moanin'
John Coltrane - Sun Ship
Weather Report - Sweetnighter
Weather Report - Heavy Weather

I have one other Blakey album that I like (from '59, forget the name), and I'm deep into Coltrane—haven't found a Coltrane album on Impulse that isn't somewhere between "pretty damn good" and "fucking fantastic."

Totally new to Weather Report. All I know is Shorter's in the band, more or less. Played the first couple tracks on Sweetnighter and it sounds like these guys are generally on a post-Bitches Brew trip, is that somewhat right or am I off the mark? And what are their best records?

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 4 June 2011 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

moanin deserves its classic status -- top 10 hard bop records of the 50s, not a bad note on it. weather report is more composed/much less improv-y than bitches brew (at least heavy weather is, haven't heard the other one). i dunno, beyond the first couple weather report records, i haven't gotten too much into them.

― tylerw, Saturday, 4 June 2011 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Heavy Weather okay, but Mysterious Traveller is my favorite of their mid-70s highly composed period. If you want to hear their weirdest shit, pick up the 2CD set Live in Tokyo.

― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 4 June 2011 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

top 10 hard bop records of the 50s, not a bad note on it.

What are the other nine...?

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 5 June 2011 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN ~~~~

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmm i think that one links to an actual post
this one should link you to the thread
JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN ~~~~

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Total # of jazz albums bought in 2011.... 130.

Here's the count:

26 - John Coltrane
22 - Miles Davis
10 - Sun Ra
7 - Thelonious Monk
6 - Albert Ayler
5 - Herbie Hancock, Charles Mingus
4 - Ornette Coleman, Pharoah Sanders
3 - Don Cherry, Alice Coltrane, Mats Gustafsson, Joe Henderson, Andrew Hill, Archie Shepp, Cecil Taylor
2 - Derek Bailey, Art Blakey, Peter Brötzmann, Eric Dolphy, Lee Morgan, Wayne Shorter
1 - Duke Ellington, Johnny Hartman, Freddie Hubbard, Bobby Hutcherson, Oliver Nelson, Sonny Sharrock, McCoy Tyner, Tony Williams

Pretty much picking up anything I see on Blue Note in the '60s at this point, and anything Blue Note or Impulse! related. But I wonder if I'm not pigeonholing myself.... I'm not listening or aiming much for pre '60s jazz as a general rule (with exceptions being Blakey and Monk and maybe a couple others) and most of this stuff falls into 60s or early 70s jazz, leaning toward free jazz (Sun Ra, Ayler, Cherry, Ornette) and spacey stuff (Pharoah, Alice, Hancock fusion era).

What else am I missing? I have a pretty good idea of my "tastes" at this point but still of course desire to (A) step outside the box to some degree, now that the box has formed, and (B) continue to find tons of really great albums within the box.

― ilxor, Friday, 13 January 2012 05:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

did you get mccoy tyner's "enlightenment"?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 January 2012 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

If you dig both the 1960s Blue Note hard bop and free/avant garde, you should definitely check out Charles Mingus. He did both some cool avant garde stuff and groovy-as-hell bluesy numbers. Blues & Roots, Tijuana Moods, or Mingus Ah Um are good places to start, though pretty much all of the official albums he released between 1956 and 1963 are great.

― Tuomas, Friday, 13 January 2012 07:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Um, it says right there he bought five Mingus records

― extremely lewd and incredibly crass (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

A band I just discovered last year was David Murray's Octet. A great mix of hard-swinging bluesy bop and outbursts of free blowing. Their five albums have been reissued in a budget-priced box that's totally worth getting. Killer stuff.

― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ellery Eskelin - The Sun Died
Mihaly Dresch - Egyenes Zene
William Parker - Double Sunrise over Neptune
Jenny Scheinman - 12 Songs
Dinah Washington - Dinah Jams
Charlie Parker - Dial Masters
Max Roach - Deeds Not Words
Horace Silver - Song for my Father
Cannonball Adderley - In San Francisco

― o. nate, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, and Henry Threadgill too: "Everybody's Mouth a Book" and "Up Popped the Two Lips" are both recommended.

― o. nate, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

did you get mccoy tyner's "enlightenment"?

"The Real McCoy"—only one i've found so far.

Um, it says right there he bought five Mingus records

mingus ah um, mingus x5, mingus plays piano, oh yeah, black saint :)

― ilxor, Sunday, 15 January 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks for the rec's o. nate!!

― ilxor, Sunday, 15 January 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

David Murray's Octet

yess Ming is a classic album

― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 January 2012 12:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like o. nate's eclectic approach

― Mayne ... Or Astro-Mayne? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

just bought -

Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk
Grant Green - Idle Moments
Charles Mingus - Blues and Roots
Thelonious Monk - Monk.
Wayne Shorter - Night Dreamer

― ilxor, Friday, 20 January 2012 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

really getting into the Atavistic reissues on their Unheard Music Series, i've picked up all of the following recently:

Peter Brotzmann Sextet - Fuck de Boere
Globe Unity Orchestra - ??? (forget the name of this one)
Haazz & Company - Unlawful Noise
Mount Everest Trio - Waves from Albert Ayler
Luther Thomas & Human Arts Ensemble - Funky Donkey
Luther Thomas & Human Arts Ensemble - Banana

other recent stuff i've picked up:

Albert Ayler - Holy Ghost (box set... fucking amazing)
Ornette Coleman - Town Hall 1962
John Coltrane - Live in Seattle (double disc edition)
Art Blakey - A Night in Tunisia
Peter Brotzmann & Bill Laswell - Low Life

― ilxor, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 05:08 (1 year ago) Permalink