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hm, i'm getting a funny notion that i may actually sound like the begorrah paddy that annoys you guys so much.

darraghmac, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

interviews he did with Stewart Lee (as interviewee) and Brian Eno (as interviewer) somewhere as well, they're worth it too.

I heard them. It was a series on BBC about who inspired you or something. "Chain reaction" iirc.

That sounds really good Aldo, keep me posted.

Darragh, I doubt it!

kv_nol, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Nonsense, Darragh. Unless you actually talk like you're in a Dion Boucicault play, you're fine.

It's not even specifically the racism accent of it that irritates me, nor is it the fact that it's an English person doing it. It's when people make jokes of a kind that are really only acceptable to me when I'm absolutely certain that the intention is good, and I'm not sure of the person's motives.

Like, I remember meeting an uncle of Mister M's at a party one night and we were all talking about how it takes ages to get a driving licence in Ireland, and I said that it had taken me 13 months to get mine. He thought this was hilarious, and for the rest of the evening would say things like "well, don't get Trish to drive you home, it took her over a year to get her licence!" and chuckle away merrily like it was some fantastic joke. I know it's a particular style of humour that some people employ in order to try to create a connection between them and the other person, but it really gets my back up.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, so much on this thread. I love all your posts and tales of your exotic lives in pubs and by lovely beaches. Maybe when work finally slows down I'll be able to come into work and leisurely catch up on this thread. Here's to hoping.

FUCK YOU DO NOT DO THE ACCENT OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU IS THAT ABSOLUTELY FUCKING CLEAR!?!

*stops mentally reading Kv's posts in Irish accent*

P, they were giving away Maker Faire tix on KUT this morning. 'Bout to put the headphones on, maybe they'll be giving away more.

Ruby, I shall mail you my address and return the deed with some homemade salsa.

to work now.

Misery, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

My life in pubs is far from exotic. The last time I was at a beach our car broke down and we sat in the car eating chips and looking forlornly at each other and willing it to start again of its own volition without us having to call out the RAC (and, surprisingly, it did, the ignition processes of Renault Lagunas (Lagunae?) having weird ass minds of their own) and it was bloody cold and miserable, but that's Largs for you.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Largs is great

onimo, Thursday, 11 October 2007 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

dead ilxor.com made me work today :(

onimo, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just telling someone the very same tragic tale.

Michael White, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

We were all in the same boat. Lets hope it doesn't happen again.

Guilty_Boksen, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Largs is not great when you are in a broken down car and it's cold and you don't have any money and aren't dressed for walking about outside because you thought you were just going for a wee run in the car.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish I could say I was more productive. But I can't. :(

Misery, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Spending much of the past year being an English person in Northern Ireland (was going to type Norn Irn but maybe that counts as interweb comedy accent) I worried that I would one day say something like "sure that's grand so it is" and have everyone round on me for taking the piss out of them when it is only that their speech patterns are kind of addictive and after a while there I find myself thinking like that.

Even now I'm back home it only takes a few threads of the NI music scene ILX-equivalent to get me thinking like that. Plus we don't have great words like "lalty" back here, take pity on us. But no matter how much my brain starts doing the accent I don't think I could do it out loud anyway so maybe I'm safe.

(Comedy Irish accents only dragged out in my family when my father declares things an ecumenical matter, which is probably just as bad, but still)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Impersonation of specific fictional character. I deem it allowable.

I wish I had done some work today. Instead I started more scrabulous games than I can reasonably play, and now I'm watching First Knight. Again. But only the good bits.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I finally got paid for work done 3+ months ago. lol freelance chump!

The check was big enough that the bank is putting a hold on the funds while it clears, so it'll be closer to FOUR months after the work done before I can call myself paid.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 11 October 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

This is part of the reason I gave up freelancing. It's no fun having to threaten people with solicitors' letters to get them to fucking well pay you for work you did for them.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 11 October 2007 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I bitch, but it wasn't totally unexpected, so I was able to set aside in May and June to keep from getting into a tight spot. (Didn't even have to dip into the Hamsterjam fund to do it!) Actually, getting six big checks a year has taught me a lot about money management.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 11 October 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

If there's one thing I've learned about money management, it's not to leave it to Mister M. He likes to put our money in electronics.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 11 October 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Right, time for bed. The film has got to the boring bits in London now, with all the love and family and no more heraldry. BORING!

accentmonkey, Thursday, 11 October 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

ah accents...a lot of people said in college I sound like Bob Geldof, which is pretty terrible but when I hear my voice recorded or something I do notice a little resemblance. probably means middle class Dublin accent or something. oh well!

Ronan, Thursday, 11 October 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Man I am feeling v. ill. I'm staying home tomorrow.

And G. is gone for the second night b/c his dad had surgery.

bored and too sick feeling to do anything fun like guitar hero.

Misery, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link

that sucks :(

thanks trish and misery for your lovely support on the other thread! much appreciated. i think mr. white may have also given some support, but it was all in french so i can't be sure.

(not that i give a flying fuck what anyone else's 'judgement' of my situation is)

Rubyredd, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I was going to say pretty much what trish said too, fwiw, but she got there first. anyway, trish is sensible and I am slow. And good luck with it all!

ailsa, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Not giving a flying fuck about lame idiots on the interweb is an important thing.

Misery, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

also, sometimes, easier said that done.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

than, not that. it is late. i need sleep.

ailsa, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

you guyz RULE. obviously i will keep you updated with whether it works out splendidly. or whether it all FALLS TO SHIT!

honestly though - i have been through some bad shit in my time, and have all kinds of reasons to be pessimistic and negative and cynical about 'love', but i've never been so sure about something in my life.

(oh i sound like some lame rom-com movie)

Rubyredd, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you have a job and accommodation and stuff all lined up?

ailsa, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I would say moving to the Bay Area in general is not a bad thing.

than, not that. it is late. i need sleep.

It's early here and I need sleep.

Misery, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

accommodation is lined up, but no job. not worried though, as it's a few months away yet, and i imagine waitressing is something i could get prettily easily, with all the experience i have.

Rubyredd, Thursday, 11 October 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait. What did I miss??

kv_nol, Friday, 12 October 2007 08:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh wait, read it. That doesn't seem bad at all (the reaction I mean). Ruby, all the advice I can give that might be of any use is: don't live with them. At first, move over and have a place of your own. That way, should the worst come to the worst (and I'm very sure it won't!), you at least don't need to worry about a roof over your head.

Also buy an open-ended return ticket. You might not need it for years and even then just for a quick trip home but when you're broke and far from home it's always nice to have a get out available.

</sermon>

kv_nol, Friday, 12 October 2007 08:59 (sixteen years ago) link

kv_lol speaks sense. Especially about the not living together thing. I wanted to say that but didn't want to sound preachy. Moving in with someone is scary and stressful at the best of times, but I imagine it would be scary and stressful to the power of shit if your entire lifestyle is dependent on it working out that way and you haven't even spent quality real time with each other prior to invading each other's privacy 24/7.

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

(and yes, well done me on the not sounding preachy thing)

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:06 (sixteen years ago) link

kv_lol speaks sense

Plz 2 have made into t shirt 4 meh?

kv_nol, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:07 (sixteen years ago) link

http://i23.tinypic.com/315fvog.jpg

onimo, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Onimo I kiss u.

kv_nol, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Right, I am officially in the job market.

aldo, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

My job is officially in the market :(

onimo, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Aldo, have you handed in your notice, or are you just pissed off with your job?

accentmonkey, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait. What onimo?

Why aldo?

kv_nol, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha, I too am officially in the jobs market as well (well, will be in a fortnight).

Al, what happened? You've been down this road before, pushed you too hard this time?

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't handed in my notice yet, but I have told one or two people formally (as of an hour ago) I am in the market and have had three speculative offers on the basis that I may be available already.

Basically, I've had enough. I work fucking miracles (for example, last year I did in 6 months what would normally take 2-3 years, and saved the taxpayer at least £15M in the process) with no money, and for no money (about half of what I'd get paid in industry). We reorganised in April and the upshot of that is likely to be 1 in 3 job cuts. Then last night I got a phone call advising me of a meeting that was happening this morning that I was being painted as the fall guy for. The word 'fraud' was used. I spent an hour gathering enough signed documents to make me bulletproof, then went to the pub. I had an hour this morning handing them over, but the people I'm dropping in it are sufficiently senior to me I can see any evidence being ignored.

Hang on, there goes the phone again...

aldo, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Keep at it man. Least you know that you're right and can do a great job. Fuck 'em.

kv_nol, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:57 (sixteen years ago) link

:-(

Still, remember what happened the last time :-)

(also if you can get paid 2x in industry, go there!)

onimo, is your job in danger with these job cuts? Also, Al, can you get a lawyer involved to make sure things aren't ignored?

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a friend going through a similarly crap time with his work (allegations of fraud etc) which has led to him resigning (and missing out on megabucks redundancy deal into the bargain). He has excellent evidence on his side proving he is right. We're all screaming "constructive dismissal" at him, but he won't bite, figuring the hassle isn't worth it. I can't blame him, some people here might remember I had a similar situation about four years ago which had constructive dismissal written all over it, but I couldn't go through with it so I'm not really in a position to encourage others to do otherwise.

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm waiting to see what happens in the meeting that's currently going on before I work out whether I need representation or not. Also, that's what the union is for.

aldo, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Righto, I didn't have the aid of a union in my case, and I don't think my friend does either (but his girlfriend has just qualified as a lawyer, which helps)

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

My job is in danger from these cuts but is in more immediate danger from other things that I can't discuss publicly atm.

onimo, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I have an uniong, here is a picture of it

http://www.antonraubenweiss.com/expo/photos-small/KIF_5198.JPG

onimo, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Fair enough, you can tell me over a pint on Wednesday (or email me). My job is no longer, hurrah, I am a free womang and shall be requiring a new job forthwith.

ailsa, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link


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