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Have you become one of those people who is told that they don't have any kind of an accent?

That's fine. I'm talking about the whole "Oooh aren't they lovely with the leprechauns and sure doncha just luv em" it's a real putting-a-person-in-their-place type of thing and drives me fucking mental.

Did you see Dara O Briain the time he was giving out about this very thing on Jonathan Ross's show? He basically said "if I was an Indian person you wouldn't start going "goodness gracious me", would you?"

Dara is my comedy hero.

I didn't but Dara is alright by me. He needs to come back to The Panel. The Northern guy is too gentle.

I had an American accent growing up, my accent has now basically become posh Dublin. It is both a blessing and a curse.

Thing is, Jonathan Ross *would* start going "goodness gracious me" because he's exactly that kind of guy. But a good point well made by Dara, even if made to the wrong person.

Thirded on the love for D O'B, he's pretty funny, which is a good thing in a comedian.

I'm not sure if I'm speaking for all present, but accentmonkey endeared herself to me at last year's ATP when we met up at the Irish pub and said:

"Christ, we went passed this yesterday and they were playing diddley music and I said we're not going in there EVAH!"

in her rather lovely accent.

As an Englishman I have trouble with the Scots (well aldo, onimo and their partners) only in that I find myself copying them and saying 'Aye' all the time, even after I have left them. Trying to explain to SO why I'm saying 'aye' instead of my normal 'yeah, whatever' is a bit difficult.

I like Do'B, too, especially on IQ where he is surprisingly intelligent for a Irishman (joek, kv!)

That should have been QI but I am thick Englishman.

AND A FUCKED ONE AT THAT!!! (joek as well!)

I copy accents as well, I am so bad at doing them though that I never can mock someone correctly...

Also diddley music is the devil. I did see Andy Irvine recently though but it wasn't trad it was Woddy Guthrie. Closest thing to a trad gig I've ever been I think.

Ha ha, my mother always claims I sound like a fishwife.

Copying the speech rhythms and oft-repeated words and even the accents of the people around you is totally normal and acceptable. Jesus, if you put me in a room that was half Scots, half American, I don't think there'd be an Irish speech pattern left in me after an hour.

Doing the equivalent of "oh! look, sounds are coming out, I think it's trying to speak English? What is it, paddy? Would you like some whiskey?" is not.

I like diddley music :-(

Not this diddley music.

Doing the equivalent of "oh! look, sounds are coming out, I think it's trying to speak English? What is it, paddy? Would you like some whiskey?" is not.

I suggest waiting until they give you the whiskey before glassing them.

Fake Irish bar diddley music, yeah, not so good.

Glass them? I could get ten pee for that glass, your honour. I'm having it.

See, the problem I have with this thread is that when everyone has the chat on, I can't leave it and get work done. Feck off all of you!

No, wait, feck off me. Yes, that's more practical.

Ha ha, my mother always claims I sound like a fishwife.

I've always liked Irish accents, dunno why. I have trouble with the harsher Northern Ireland accent sometimes, but even then it depends on who is speaking.

Feck off all of you!

Ah yes, Irish people all speak like Father Ted.

Is is just me, or are Trish's posts more in the Irish idiom since this particular conversation started?

I always read Trish's posts in her accent, especially when they start with "Jesus!" (about half of them :-P)

I think you have a point, Mr Cowpat. I, too, do as onimo does.

To be sure to be sure (xxpost).

Aldo, thanks for tip on graphic novels thread.

Guilty, you're alright by me. Glassing after drinking the drink? There speaks a man with the right attitude!

As I said on the graphic novels thread, I will make an attempt to Why Ess Eye the Alan Moore spoken word albums over the weekend. I've got the interviews he did with Stewart Lee (as interviewee) and Brian Eno (as interviewer) somewhere as well, they're worth it too.

I may be getting slightly burned out on Big Hairy Alang Moore though, about half the anecdotes/theorising on the Mindscape doc I'd seen/heard before.

hm, i'm getting a funny notion that i may actually sound like the begorrah paddy that annoys you guys so much.

interviews he did with Stewart Lee (as interviewee) and Brian Eno (as interviewer) somewhere as well, they're worth it too.

I heard them. It was a series on BBC about who inspired you or something. "Chain reaction" iirc.

That sounds really good Aldo, keep me posted.

Darragh, I doubt it!

Nonsense, Darragh. Unless you actually talk like you're in a Dion Boucicault play, you're fine.

It's not even specifically the racism accent of it that irritates me, nor is it the fact that it's an English person doing it. It's when people make jokes of a kind that are really only acceptable to me when I'm absolutely certain that the intention is good, and I'm not sure of the person's motives.

Like, I remember meeting an uncle of Mister M's at a party one night and we were all talking about how it takes ages to get a driving licence in Ireland, and I said that it had taken me 13 months to get mine. He thought this was hilarious, and for the rest of the evening would say things like "well, don't get Trish to drive you home, it took her over a year to get her licence!" and chuckle away merrily like it was some fantastic joke. I know it's a particular style of humour that some people employ in order to try to create a connection between them and the other person, but it really gets my back up.

Man, so much on this thread. I love all your posts and tales of your exotic lives in pubs and by lovely beaches. Maybe when work finally slows down I'll be able to come into work and leisurely catch up on this thread. Here's to hoping.

FUCK YOU DO NOT DO THE ACCENT OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU IS THAT ABSOLUTELY FUCKING CLEAR!?!

*stops mentally reading Kv's posts in Irish accent*

P, they were giving away Maker Faire tix on KUT this morning. 'Bout to put the headphones on, maybe they'll be giving away more.

Ruby, I shall mail you my address and return the deed with some homemade salsa.

to work now.

My life in pubs is far from exotic. The last time I was at a beach our car broke down and we sat in the car eating chips and looking forlornly at each other and willing it to start again of its own volition without us having to call out the RAC (and, surprisingly, it did, the ignition processes of Renault Lagunas (Lagunae?) having weird ass minds of their own) and it was bloody cold and miserable, but that's Largs for you.

Largs is great

dead ilxor.com made me work today :(

I was just telling someone the very same tragic tale.

We were all in the same boat. Lets hope it doesn't happen again.

Largs is not great when you are in a broken down car and it's cold and you don't have any money and aren't dressed for walking about outside because you thought you were just going for a wee run in the car.

I wish I could say I was more productive. But I can't. :(

Spending much of the past year being an English person in Northern Ireland (was going to type Norn Irn but maybe that counts as interweb comedy accent) I worried that I would one day say something like "sure that's grand so it is" and have everyone round on me for taking the piss out of them when it is only that their speech patterns are kind of addictive and after a while there I find myself thinking like that.

Even now I'm back home it only takes a few threads of the NI music scene ILX-equivalent to get me thinking like that. Plus we don't have great words like "lalty" back here, take pity on us. But no matter how much my brain starts doing the accent I don't think I could do it out loud anyway so maybe I'm safe.

(Comedy Irish accents only dragged out in my family when my father declares things an ecumenical matter, which is probably just as bad, but still)

Impersonation of specific fictional character. I deem it allowable.

I wish I had done some work today. Instead I started more scrabulous games than I can reasonably play, and now I'm watching First Knight. Again. But only the good bits.

I finally got paid for work done 3+ months ago. lol freelance chump!

The check was big enough that the bank is putting a hold on the funds while it clears, so it'll be closer to FOUR months after the work done before I can call myself paid.

This is part of the reason I gave up freelancing. It's no fun having to threaten people with solicitors' letters to get them to fucking well pay you for work you did for them.

I bitch, but it wasn't totally unexpected, so I was able to set aside in May and June to keep from getting into a tight spot. (Didn't even have to dip into the Hamsterjam fund to do it!) Actually, getting six big checks a year has taught me a lot about money management.

If there's one thing I've learned about money management, it's not to leave it to Mister M. He likes to put our money in electronics.

Right, time for bed. The film has got to the boring bits in London now, with all the love and family and no more heraldry. BORING!

ah accents...a lot of people said in college I sound like Bob Geldof, which is pretty terrible but when I hear my voice recorded or something I do notice a little resemblance. probably means middle class Dublin accent or something. oh well!

Man I am feeling v. ill. I'm staying home tomorrow.

And G. is gone for the second night b/c his dad had surgery.

bored and too sick feeling to do anything fun like guitar hero.

that sucks :(

thanks trish and misery for your lovely support on the other thread! much appreciated. i think mr. white may have also given some support, but it was all in french so i can't be sure.

(not that i give a flying fuck what anyone else's 'judgement' of my situation is)

I was going to say pretty much what trish said too, fwiw, but she got there first. anyway, trish is sensible and I am slow. And good luck with it all!

Not giving a flying fuck about lame idiots on the interweb is an important thing.

also, sometimes, easier said that done.

than, not that. it is late. i need sleep.

you guyz RULE. obviously i will keep you updated with whether it works out splendidly. or whether it all FALLS TO SHIT!

honestly though - i have been through some bad shit in my time, and have all kinds of reasons to be pessimistic and negative and cynical about 'love', but i've never been so sure about something in my life.

(oh i sound like some lame rom-com movie)

Do you have a job and accommodation and stuff all lined up?

I would say moving to the Bay Area in general is not a bad thing.

than, not that. it is late. i need sleep.

It's early here and I need sleep.

accommodation is lined up, but no job. not worried though, as it's a few months away yet, and i imagine waitressing is something i could get prettily easily, with all the experience i have.

Wait. What did I miss??