Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

I've managed to get sucked into a couple of spoiler sites (don't worry, I will neither speculate nor spoil - besides, a lot of people on them are barking up the wrong tree IMO) but I still thought this rocked and surprised me.

As to the Silents, the Scream/Gentlemen/Dementor/Slender Man (all comparisons I've seen) are all iterations of an archetype Moffat has said is designed to play on primal fear (human beings are hardwired to freak over anything that looks skully).

Shite Nixon, though.

We were too busy shouting "arrooo!" at the screen to hear anything Nixon said. He didn't seem very Nixon-y though. (Also after a weekend of Portal 2 the underground cavern bit was making us all "OK, you can put a portal in that wall but not that one, need to go through there and...")

I love all the "timey-wimey bullshit". As a kid I think my main disappointment with Who was that, ffs, you've got a time machine, let's have more of the timey-wimey bullshit.

Having said that, I didn't like this episode quite as much as I might've on paper. I like dicking abt with time, I like River when she's not being all "spoilers", like the concept/design of the Silents - but it didn't quite hang together for me. Plus, yes, lots of "haven't we had this before?" to disembodied anxious child voices, aliens you have to keep looking at, etc. But I'm interested to see where it goes.

I like the fact it is a bad Nixon, it's the so bad it's good argument.

The older Doctor surely knew he needed to die in order to set in motion whatever is going to happen over the course of the next episode, and probably the rest of the series. It's pretty obvious that Mofatt hasn't written the end of the whole story.

Also the bit where the Doctor suddenly was all "why should I trust you, what do you know?" was terrific, Tennant would never have been able to pull off that sort of abrupt register shift as well as Smith did.

i had a dream that the entire series 5 and 6 were taking place inside the TARDIS and the David Tennant was still the doctor and that the whole series was like a doll house created by Amy.

i thought the Nixon was great, what was he getting wrong?

- looking like Nixon
- sounding like Nixon
- having a black secret service agent calling the shots (??!)

but being constantly over-ruled and undermined! actually i was wondering about the relative racial diversity of the 1969 oval office security...

was this nixon really less accurate than the churchill of last series? i just like the way he says "hello" - apparently the (american) actor did struggle with the voice a bit due to having to use fake teeth

well, my uncle was a federal agent in the late 60s but he didn't work at the White House

was this nixon really less accurate than the churchill of last series?

otm, they're both enjoyably panto

well really they were both terrible but at least Nixon wasn't also in a terrible story

the Legs, the Nose and Mrs Robinson loooooolllll

omg that was A+

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JIM THE FISH

this was pointed out on another msgboard but, elsewhere in 1969, doctor ten and martha were waiting for sally sparrow to send their tardis back from 2007.

next week I hope they properly explain why the universe exploded that one time

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The Silencios do look kinda camp when doing their zapping thing

US trailer for next week: http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/day-of-the-moon-bbc-america-trailer-18775.htm

The Doctor is always going to get out of it, that's what he does.

Will the whole of the next series be him getting out of it, or just the next episode.

Based on Moffat's form, I can see the whole of the next series building towards one of the doctors friends having to go back to the lake to kill him which will somehow also save him.

the 'oh-noes Moffat will kill the doctor' is reminding me of Batman RIP.

The BatmanDoctor is always going to get out of it, that's what he does. The fun is seeing how he does it.

I feel better now! :)

Moffatt was on Radio 2 talking about how he was plotting out the Christmas special and the next series, so I think we're good!

Of course the rest of the series could be about the Master (called Dr Master, PhDeath) after the Dr buys it

lol

MOFFAT

Moffatt Moffet Moffett Mofett Mofatt MOFFAT

Ahhh hah ha I stand stricken through

CAST HIM OUT

except Batman doesn't die until after Batman RIP. It's, erm, like the end of Final Crisis and then the alternating issues of Batman & Robin #9-16 and Return Of Bruce Wayne #1-6. Or something.

well, my uncle was a federal agent in the late 60s but he didn't work at the White House

He wouldn't happen to be a contestant on Survivor this season, would he?

except Batman doesn't die until after Batman RIP. It's, erm, like

actually if they let this mystery stand until the end of the second half-series, it's TOTALLY like the first three stories in B&R just getting on with the new status quo and letting the mystery build!

Got a feeling that the whole Nixon thing was an elaborate excuse for showing the Doctor with his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office.

How does River shoot the Stetson off the Doctor's head from the other side of the road, behind Rory?

With mad skillz?

there was a string on his hat that someone behind the camera pulled.

the bullet was a miniature TARDIS

river used a bullet that curved through space

the doctor knocked it off himself because river missed and he didn't want her to feel bad

the universe is curved, duh

How does River shoot the Stetson off the Doctor's head from the other side of the road, behind Rory?

*ahem*...spoilers.

Lol

so fckng stoked u guyz

SO GOOD. Thought pantomime Nixon was jokes. The Silence were great. I wasn't sure it was all going to hold together but I try not to care about that kind of thing too much so it all seemed ok to me. Next episode looks a bit silly.

I remained sceptical about the first one but I loved loved loved that.

loved the first half but think it kinda lost it a bit after that as it became clear they weren't really going to reveal anything much of note :/

i mean explain not reveal ;)

Reminded me of Ghost Light (this isn't a good thing).

(oh and jesus, that pre-credits sequence! Moffat just seems to be addicted to killing main characters then having them turn out fine, and the more he does it the more he destroys any sense of actual danger).

But he does it so well!

So, are we automatically meant to think small child = daughter of amy and the doctor?

why not daughter of amy + rory?

Because it had timelord power?