Portal 2

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I am watching the intro cutscene over mr spacecadet's shoulder right now! (no liveblog)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm down with a seven hour game if all seven hours are great

Prefer this too... a worry with this is that they would feel the need to pad it out to justify the AAA price tag. Picked up my copy earlier, gonna play tonight =)

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

okay the first two hours or so are great fun but it's really just PORTAL like more of the same not there's anything wrong with that
load times kind of inexcusable imo
i'm ps3 btw

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

uhoh

The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

so far this is very funny, but also really fucking boring.

huh

The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Just wait for it. You're in the regular test chambers with Glados being bitchy, yes? Things pick up. Very much so.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's where I'm at. Will be patient.

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

voice acting and script is v v v v good btw

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok, yeah. Think of the part you're in as an extension of the first one's ending. Things get properly nuts once the plot starts, you get to play with the new mechanic, etc.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, looking forward to messing around with this more tomorrow.
one thing i do immediately like: the hostile, self-hating, more interactive environment

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

yikes i don't think i could play this on a console, irc on Portal 1 a lot of the time you had to turn around quickly with almost pinpoint accuracy firing those portals.

I just don't think I could bare that not using a mouse

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I've only used a mouse and a computer for years for FPS since Quake, barring Halo and Portal. Never owned a console later than the NES, and I found Portal was okay with a controller.

fucking up the race charts (S-), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

OK so my housemates "this time she's a potato" comment wasnt a joke? He's been in his room non stop for the last 2 days thanks to this thing.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I cant get my head around this game fwiw. I get so dizzy.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a gang of Amazon trade credit and the get-a-free-$20-gift-card-w/-purchase was still going on last night so I said FUQ IT; should be arriving on Friday. anyone have any coop impressions yet? all I know is what I read in the Eurogamer review.

the pussy/butthole addendum (jamescobo), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

actually gonna try the split-screen co-op with a friend this weekend, seems like it could be really fun (to kill each other).

adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

ok played until pretty late last night, still rolling through the test chambers, game need to get a fucking move on imo - trusting u dudes, but man this really feels like the worlds longest and most unneeded tutorial. wondering if that is thx to this being the first time ps3 types could play portal so

idk, its kind of frustrating and not all that fun so far

The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

wondering if that is thx to this being the first time ps3 types could play portal so

?

portal is on orange box on the ps3

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah duh what the hell am i thinking of

The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

To be fair, the ps3 Orange Box was a pretty shoddy conversion, sold poorly, and Portal was never available as a separate dl like for pc and xbox players.

I agree a bit about the pacing of that section- I get that it's supposed to be GLaDOS just outright tormenting you without even the thin veneer of "professionalism" she had up to the end of the first game (the oxyhen stuff, "a special medical procedure," etc, all very I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream)- but there's really no sense of rising stakes or of anything really *happening* until toward the end of that part. Short version: just because it's supposed to be tedious and oppressive doesn't mean it has to feel that way to the player.

Ignore me, I'm rambling. It gets oh so much better, though.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

probly never going to play this so been watching youtube walkthrough instead. it does look a treat must admit. some of the new gameplay elements also look amazing.

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Thursday, 21 April 2011 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link

also, i was quite surprised at how funny i found the voice of Merchant, whereas in the trailer it really put me off.

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Thursday, 21 April 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Really enjoying this. Put about an hour in, which means I've seen 20 minutes of loading screens.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

rite? loading is really inexcusably long

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

only like an hour in but it is great so far. is there an ilx group on steam?

You Get Hoynes (bnw), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i have no friends so you guys are my only hope for co-op

You Get Hoynes (bnw), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

is it longer than half life 2/portal 1 loading times?

adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i am setting up steam account shortly with ps3 so will co op
and yes there is an ilx steam group. what the hell is it called folks?

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I am contemplating doing Portal 2 on Steam instead of a console but I'm not sure. Is it going to look way better? I loved playing 1 on a console.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

so my understanding is that if you buy it on ps3, you can play it on a pc via steam... right?

My bad Van Buren! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

If they fix the ps3 network issues I'd love to rock some co-op too.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 April 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Steam group:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ILG

join! friend! etc.

Nhex, Thursday, 21 April 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

still not even halfway through watching this playthrough, and the story is amazing.

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Friday, 22 April 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i just started playing this tonight. how the environment slowly changes and the background hints that are dropped throughout are great.

shaane, Friday, 22 April 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

10 things about portal 2

1 - No game should EVER have this much loading. EVER.
2 - The basic game mechanics hold up real well; it's still fun to work out puzzles with portals
3 - The pacing is PLODDING; I finally reached the twist sequence but MAN it took some time
4 - Script and voice acting and story are the absolute best thing this has going for it so I can see where spoilers are an actual concern
5 - I love the weird human touches throughout, the "save the turret being recycled" achievement was a great moment in gameplay
6 - Weirdly unforgiving platforming; lots of "what's over here oh i'm dead" jumps
7 - Some serious frustration points that could be easily amended by a bit of in-game direction. I've been stuck in a room at least three times where I just end up running in circles trying to find the one place I can shoot to get a portal and there's just no obvious solution. Some of this is poorly designed, which is a bit out of character for valve.
8 - the graphics are just a joy
9 - so's the sound design
10 - sure do wish i could play co-op. thanks for being a sometimes functioning network sony.

forks (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 April 2011 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

11 - potato

forks (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 April 2011 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

12- 100 - NO GAME SHOULD EVER HAVE THIS MANY LOADING SCREENS

forks (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 April 2011 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I came around to Stephen Merchant, especially toward the end when he has some more interesting material to work with (and I'm sure it helps that I'm not a British and haven't seen Extras), but I can't help but wish Valve had gone with their original pick of Richard Ayoade.

Or Karl Pilkington. He's even the right shape!

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Friday, 22 April 2011 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Played a bit of the co-op. Good stuff.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Friday, 22 April 2011 08:07 (thirteen years ago) link

12 hours to download? ack, why didn't i set it off sooner. oh well i should prob get out and enjoy the sunshine anyway.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Friday, 22 April 2011 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, playing this with a 6 yr old spectator, and on three separate occasions now I've been sat scratching my head over what to do next only for him to say something like "put a blue one over there, then you can go round that bit" and BE RIGHT. wtf kiddo!?

Associated question - this is has a PEGI rating of 12 but so far there's been nothing worse than Stephen Merchant saying 'bloody'. Does it get significantly less kid friendly later on? Maybe I should start a gaming parenting thread.

JimD, Friday, 22 April 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

the loading screens are very quick on my pc /bragging '11

You Get Hoynes (bnw), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Jim- it's rated 10 and up in the states, and whileit doesn't get especially vulgar (a few "hells" and "craps") or violent it is quite dark in places. More jokes about tumors than your average game, for instance.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Friday, 22 April 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

loved this game.

loading times are ridiculous for sure but i can forgive that for a game that feels aesthetically whole--just lots of small well planned things that contribute to a meaningful experience. like the evolving aperture logos. and other stuff that would be spoilers.

adam, Friday, 22 April 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Every single time there was a long jump (the kind where you jump down from somewhere really really high, shunt through a portal on the ground, pop out a portal from a slanted surface to go forward really really far) I yelled wheeeeeeeeeeeee in delight, I couldn't help it.

That consistent feeling plus the great dialogue made this game for me, plus the damn amazing attention to detail and set design, sound design, these guys are just so good.

There are lot of things that make the game short of perfect - the pacing as forks mentioned, various things that sort of try to live up to the first one but inevitably can't - but this really had plenty to enjoy, and I loved the puzzles with the gels and refractory cubes. The game was just hard enough where I never felt like I needed to go seek a FAQ, but still felt really satisfied whenever I solved a tough puzzle. I feel like that's rarer and rarer these days.

Gonna try to pressure a friend to buy this sooner than later - he's waiting for the next time it goes on sale, and I promised him we'd do the co-op mode together...

Nhex, Saturday, 23 April 2011 07:14 (thirteen years ago) link

More jokes about tumors than your average game, for instance.

― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Friday, 22 April 2011 21:22 (Yesterday)

Kindergarten Cop had no problem with tumor jokes and six year olds.

Is there any reference to the updated ending of the first Portal, ie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXAq34TrVXM

fucking up the race charts (S-), Saturday, 23 April 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Read Lab Rat -
http://www.thinkwithportals.com/comic/

I can understand the PG rating, the idea of an omnipresent voice constantly telling you how they're going to kill you might be a little much for little ones

Nhex, Saturday, 23 April 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Outside of Lab Rat, the only reference/connection to the updated Portal ending is the fact that you start the game back in stasis. Party Escort Bot doesn't get his turn in the spotlight :(

This is probably a side result of my Valve fanboyism more than anything, but the National's song is shockingly decent, kind of pretty, even:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMEIuTxfwM

Note for the spoiler-averse- it's not one of the game's musical numbers; it only appears in the game playing on a tinny little radio in a hidden Ratman room early on.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Saturday, 23 April 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

played this with my girlfriend at the time and i ended up crying literal tears of frustration and was in a mood for the entirety of the day after.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

the sequence through the 'historical' section of the complex (the j/k simmons bit) is just amazing. valve are so good at storytelling.

― goole, Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that whole section of the game is really special, to the point where the later stuff back in the normal complex is kind of disappointing

ciderpress, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

jk simmons is amazing

mh, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

narratively and atmopsherically it was great, but in terms of the puzzles it was a little weaker than the other parts for the sheer fact that the number of portal-able surfaces were so limited

Nhex, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

yeah, but the puzzles were interesting in their sheer size, i thought. like, few portal-able surfaces, but they were sometimes hard to find, just a tiny lil white spot across a huge room or something

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

^i totally said "portalable" all the time while playing

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

i came up with the mental neologism of 'whitewall' for what i needed

goole, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

FUCK NO WHITEWALL THERE WHAT DO I DO FUCK

goole, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

played this with my girlfriend at the time and i ended up crying literal tears of frustration and was in a mood for the entirety of the day after.

― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Friday, May 10, 2013 12:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha its a healthy exercise in being patient! you forget how unnatural using 2 sticks to move and turn your view is for people not used to fps games. she ran in circles a lot instead of just turning her view >_<

best new whale (bnw), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

you forget how unnatural using 2 sticks to move and turn your view is for people not used to fps games. people who play fps games with a mouse and keyboard, as god intended

mh, Friday, 10 May 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

omg you use a two button LOL

best new whale (bnw), Friday, 10 May 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

two button mouse* #fail

best new whale (bnw), Friday, 10 May 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link

the frustration was at how bad I was - she is far better at games than me. we were playing it with her housemates watching us and she was berating me for being shit and it all got a bit too much for me tbh.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link

aw

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

mh otm about control schemes; gamepads for fpses are an abomination before the lord

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link

I played some doom in my day but came of age in the realm of shooting people in quake with a sweet Logitech mouseman.

mh, Saturday, 11 May 2013 04:38 (ten years ago) link

Lol olds

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link

i am a clinger. here's a picture i took five minutes ago (i did have to retrieve the disc from a drawer)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Inuxx/0a124241-7687-47e6-9f1f-73ba7a09903e_zpsd160bc76.jpg

that stuff on the mouse is noob blood

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:11 (ten years ago) link

mousepad also obv from like 1995

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:11 (ten years ago) link

Doom was the last shooter I was any good at

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:25 (ten years ago) link

doom actually when i replayed it last year i discovered that because there's no Z-axis you can get total precision just using the keyboard: left hand on WASD to move forward/backward and strafe left/right; right hand on the left and right arrow keys to turn. (the left pinky and thumb rest on CTRL and SPACE for shoot and use respectively.) as a kid i was totally unaware of this approach; what i did was play mouse-only, as in i pushed the mouse forward across the pad to walk forward, which now seems INSANE. i kind of want to write a book about FPSes that's why this post is okay.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link

(that was also the excuse i used when downloading eric harris' custom doom levels)

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link

(but wait: aiming with the arrow keys is the same as aiming with a stick only not analog and thus less precise. i guess what this means is i wouldn't mind the sticks in modern shooters if you weren't allowed to look up or down. actually that single technical limitation gives doom a HUGE elegance boost imo.)

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:55 (ten years ago) link

except when you're shooting point blank at a wall and the invisible bullets magically careen upward in a parabolic arc to nail the zombie sergeant on the ledge above

Nhex, Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

ha i had never thought that that would happen point-blank! but of course you are right it would. the doom-quake axis of shooters is so abstract compared to the new ones: nobody least of all john carmack really thinks you're a space marine. you're a floating node.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWjP77TztTQ

am0n, Saturday, 5 March 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

5 years after everybody else in the world I have just finished this.

And then immediately replayed the whole thing.

Would like there to be a 3rd person replay view - some of the flying jumps are impressive but you don't really get a sense of distance with 1st person.

koogs, Friday, 30 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

still probably my favorite game ever

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link


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