Japanese New Wave listening club - new albums every Monday

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hey frogbs is this a private party or can anybody join in? i've been living in Japan since November and buying up this kinda vinyl like crazy. would enjoy sharing w/ you guyz

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I have an album I'd like to post after you missingNO

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

you should go before me since you've been posting already !

I would love to hear some of the more psychedelic, pre-ymo stuff that's working with a primarily electronic palette.

not exactly pre-YMO, but Vanity Records put out some of the strangest electronic music I've ever heard. the Sympathy Nervous and Tolerance LPs especially are a must for all BGM disciples (they even put out a record by group called BGM iirc), super austere submerged tape loops, primitive drum boxes, insane synth programming. the Alfa/Yen Records axis gets most of the attention especially going towards the digital era but there's a lot of weird stuff out there that kinda went under the radar. there's a cool Vanity Records comp that came out last year that's highly recommended

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

http://youtu.be/V0oKkgiiJlo

http://youtu.be/KHYpx5ucIQc

it's like weird euro minimal synth but with better synths and psychedelic drugs

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

there's def a Cochin Moon/Zuckerzeit/Curiosum kinda vibe

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

That Sympathy Nervous track is great. I'd never heard of any of these before, so thanks.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

missingNO; by all means, especially if you can get away from the Alfa/Yen Records axis of everything...nothing against that label but sometimes its hard to remember that there was other stuff out there. I haven't heard anything on the Vanity label so fire away!

If you guys want to go next week be my guest (or just throw them up whenever), if you can't post up two albums let me know because I still have a good amount and can put up one more if you like. Really appreciated...for a while I didn't think anyone was going to help me out!!

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty cool with this being like two or three people just trading records or whatever. :)

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

absolutely, as much as I want to share these albums, I was definitely hoping to find some lurkers with weirder tastes than me

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I would love to contribute but I'm really just dipping my toes in at this point. knowledge definitely isn't v. deep right now but I am really loving everything on this thread so far.

original bgm, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

No problem — the fun of sharing stuff I already know is seeing the reactions of those not already familiar. It's always awesome to see more people get into BGM.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah...it's kind of the Sgt. Pepper or whatever of the genre; one of the few early synth albums that really "plays up" to whatever speakers you have...if you have subs, there's such a big kick-thump on tracks like "Ballet"...not even Kraftwerk had that! And "Mass" continues to scare the shit out of me in any situation

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's one of the few records of that era that lets the bass in the 808 kick come through in the mix. compare BGM to a Soft Cell record from the same period and you'll see what I mean

there's a different mix of "Happy End" w/ a straight 4x4 808 kick drum that's well worth tracking down

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

is that the one on Sakamoto's Arrangement EP?

btw "1000 Knives" is definitely one of the high watermarks of 808 beats

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed on BGM. just played it on my living room setup last week and it sounded great.

that sympathy nervous track is excellent!

original bgm, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Read somewhere that YMO playing "1000 Knives" live was the first concert appearance of an 808? Not sure if that's true or not but I believe it.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Who else was using them in 1980/1981? It didn't really become popular until the mid-to-late 80's.

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Roland (coincidence?) Bocquet's "Robot Bleu" has a few tracks that use it. Tangerine Dream was using them too in their live shows, but they were using them essentially as "rhythm boxes" and not really realizing their programming potential the way YMO did.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm thinking the Germans would have been among the first, thought maybe Cluster had used them at some point but I guess not. I thought Kraftwerk used them for Electric Cafe but just found out it was a Linn drum machine.

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh wait, it was on "Musique Non Stop"

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxxp; i really like the Sympathy Nervous track; seems to have ties to some of the really old experimental electronic stuff I've heard...not a dig on the music, but I'm kind of surprised it came out as late as 1980

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

my favorite japanese new wave song, talk back by logic system. first heard it in the late '90s and i still find it fresh today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXO5IIIhVy8

Sébastien, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

was thinking about uploading that album some day; that one's pretty good but I haven't really found any of the other Logic System albums worthwhile. he doesn't strike me as much of a composer...

so are you guys going to take over next week or should I keep going?

frogbs, Thursday, 14 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll do Monday.

corey, Thursday, 14 April 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll take the week after then, if that's cool

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Friday, 15 April 2011 07:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Does anyone have any early Maki Nomiya or Portable Rock? That YT upthread is great, would love to hear more, SLSK not yielding any results.

bRon To Run (MaresNest), Sunday, 17 April 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually don't have time to do this atm, but if someone else wants to go they're more than welcome. Sorry :\

corey, Monday, 18 April 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

that's ok; if anyone else wants to post something up go ahead
otherwise i'll maybe put something up

frogbs, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone doing next week?? or should I put a few more up?

until then, here's a song that's kind of taken over my life lately...I even had a dream about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oE903xV53E

frogbs, Friday, 22 April 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link

uh yeah i was gonna do tomorrow but i have to pull out now, as soon as i get a home internet connection i'm back in

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Sunday, 24 April 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, here are a couple more:

Haruomi Hosono - Paraiso (1978)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WdV28slTW00/SsYG7zwzh4I/AAAAAAAAAFM/xLAJZTRHlpQ/s400/front.jpg

Not really "new wave" per se but still one of my very favorite albums. Hosono was the founding member of YMO and wound up quite famous as a composer of ambient and electronic music. However, before that, he was the bassist in a couple of rock bands (including Happy End) before taking an interest in tropical and exotica music. By 1978, he was starting to incorporate electronics into his work, most famously on Cochin Moon, released the same year. This is more song-based, and holy cow is it magical. It's catchy, relaxing, and otherworldly. Has the feel of a good exotica/folk album but the electronic textures make everything off-balance. And then you have Hosono's goofy vocals, which are charming (if not very good on a technical scale). Hey, I like his voice. Check out the cover of the Okinawan folk song "Asatoya Yunta", which almost sounds as though the vocals are sung backwards. Creepy, but in a good way. Lots of great music here.

click here to get it

Akiko Yano - Japanese Girl (1976)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WdV28slTW00/StJvfF833tI/AAAAAAAAAF8/jQGDQZk0dPk/s400/624daceb.jpg

You might recognize Yano's name from her husband of nearly two decades, Ryuichi Sakamoto (they have since split). She often played live with the group, especially in their 79-80 era, and they would sometimes perform a few of her songs ("Kang Tong Boy" is probably the one you've heard if you follow YMO). She's also a pretty prolific solo artist, regularly releasing solo albums since 1976. On this, her debut, she must have been a teenager when she wrote most of the songs. But it's a very enjoyable listen with some very memorable tunes and a lot of neat Japanese instrumentation. It was recorded in L.A. with members of Little Feat. The tune "Helicopter" in particular is stunning. Rolling Stone rated it the 26th best Japanese album of all time, whatever that means.

click here to get it

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

japanese girl is a stone classic, easily as good as anything YMO ever did. good picks

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Love that Akiko record, iirc it has *all* of Little Feat as a backing band.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 08:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I wasn't sure whether to put that or Gohan Ga Dekitayo up, as it has a lot more electronics and definitely is more of a New Wave album, but ultimately it lost out because it's so damn long...right now I only really have her early stuff, are the later albums worth getting?

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Trying to catch up on this thread. Love this stuff so much.

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

XP - I have 'Honto No Kimoch' from 2004 which is pretty great, has elements of the first album sound I guess, haven't listened to it in a while, will revisit.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Later Akiko Yano albums are great! Highly recommended.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

any in particular?? i'm trying to go chronologically but theres just sooo much of it

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Try 'Honto No Kimochi', I'd be interested to see what you think.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Thursday, 28 April 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm way behind on this thread but i just wanna say that i'm am completely and utterly in love with Sim City

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 28 April 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, sim city is so, so good. been spinning it a bunch.

original bgm, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys should check out the P-Model albums I posted a few weeks back then
definitely much more technopop oriented, but they're also really good.
later P-Model albums sound a lot like the solo ones, very epic and dense, maybe I'll put some of those up

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I did, actually. sorry that I didn't comment. was a bit of a crazy work week and mostly listened while doing crazy work stuff. liked em tho!

original bgm, Thursday, 28 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

that p-model youtube sounds pretty great. that's from the later era I'm assuming?

original bgm, Thursday, 28 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's from their last album. That tune hits me in a weird way - it's currently my ringtone and is always running through my head. It's the only real straightforward song on the entire album IIRC.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I dig the way this goofy keyboard riff anchors the whole thing but much of the rest of the track is almost arranged like a ballad.

original bgm, Thursday, 28 April 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

japanese girl is quite nice btw.

original bgm, Thursday, 28 April 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

The BGM thread kind of goes into the great later Akiko Yano's but "Gohan Ga Gekitayo" and "Ai Ga Nakucha Ne" are awesome and have more YMO interaction plus Sakamoto produced them ( I think).

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 April 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry - "Gohan Ga Dekitayo". And "Tadaima" is excellent, too. All very synthy and Akiko Yano at this time was the closest I've heard to someone reaching those sort of eccentric young woman with keyboards vibe that early Kate Bush mined.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 April 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

my fav Akiko Yano album is Brooch, just minimal note perfect piano/voice arrangements of Schubert and Debussy and Stravinsky and stuff -- later sampled by Carl Stone on Mom's

check this shit out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK0XJ-09ZYU

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Friday, 29 April 2011 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link


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