Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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is it possible that mr cee didn't know that it was a dude

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

if only there was some word we could use for people who are attracted to both men and women!

What else could we say?

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scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

There's nothing gayer than not being gay.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe I'm just unaware of the significant number of women lurking in men's bathrooms but that just seems unlikely

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP B.I.G

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe I'm just unaware of the significant number of women lurking in men's bathrooms but that just seems unlikely

― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, April 8, 2011 2:22 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah it seems unlikely to me but idk -- was a bathroom involved?

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought that was the whole story? He was busted in a public restroom getting head from a guy?

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i just read these three tweets re: biggie and homosexuality:

http://twitter.com/dreamhampton313/status/55474575089221632
http://twitter.com/dreamhampton313/status/55474832774672384
http://twitter.com/dreamhampton313/status/55474981022343168

― lex pretend, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:20 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^OMG!!! What??? Really???

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that type of the mentality make so called "straight" people use their privilege to engage in homosexual acts but then deny that they are somewhat attractive to the same gender. Why engage in something like that if you are not remotely attractive to that same person? Once again, "straight" men are just strange.

You can be attracted to people of the same sex and engage in same-sex acts, but I don't think that makes you gay unless it constitutes the full extent of your sexual preferences.

(Some of us don't consider ourselves straight OR gay.)

jaymc, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

lol does nicki minaj really qualify as bisexual in any serious discussion on the matter

― fauxmarc, Friday, April 8, 2011 1:32 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

not necessarily (although she gave an interview to Out Magazine fwiw), i was just pointing out that she's a bigger current star with more overt bisexual lyrics/image than Missy after Missy was brought up

some dude, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

oh it was a car, lol

basically all of the George Michael stories make me assume ppl are always getting busted in bathrooms

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

is this the part where we list every 80s/90s hiphop song featuring a rapper getting hoodwinked by a tranny

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

cuz man it sure seemed to happen a LOT back in the day

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

minaj has played eye-rollingly coy on the subject of her own sexuality but you certainly can't have a discussion of hip-hop and homosexuality without talking about what she's brought to the table

lex pretend, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

HAHA, Shakey, I was gonna start a post like that a few years ago

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

what she's brought to the table

― lex pretend, Friday, April 8, 2011 2:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

DAT ASS?

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

if only there was some word we could use for people who are attracted to both men and women!

Cute Whiney. But you know as well as I do that the idea of bisexual men are seen as boogie men. They shouldn't be seen as that, but our society isn't as accepting.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Bi men are loathed even more than gay men IIRC.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

bi men aren't so much loathed as just...disbelieved

lex pretend, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

like the idea of bisexuality is just not even considered most of the time

lex pretend, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

You can be attracted to people of the same sex and engage in same-sex acts, but I don't think that makes you gay unless it constitutes the full extent of your sexual preferences.

(Some of us don't consider ourselves straight OR gay.)

― jaymc, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:23 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

People who don't identify with any sexual preference is all well and good. However, they are only seen as a problem if they publicly enforce the heterosexual mindset of society in order to fit in.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

is this the part where we list every 80s/90s hiphop song featuring a rapper getting hoodwinked by a tranny

― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:26 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol i thought about starting a thread about this

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

bi men aren't so much loathed as just...disbelieved

Disbelieved by gay men, mostly.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

like the idea of bisexuality is just not even considered most of the time

― lex pretend, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:30 AM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah and it's a fucked up idea too. It's okay for women to be bisexual because that means a straight guy can fantasize about two women getting it on. But men have to be either gay or straight - no ambiguity at all.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Disbelieved by gay men, mostly.

You forgot feared and disbelieved by straight women too.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

cue the violins

fauxmarc, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

cue the violins

Apathy can be as worse than down outright hate.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

It's okay for women to be bisexual because that means a straight guy can fantasize about two women getting it on. But men have to be either gay or straight - no ambiguity at all.

You forget that men, in general, have no ambiguity at all.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying, every man in the world is straightforward in their sexuality or opinions? They have no complexity whatsoever?

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

You can be attracted to people of the same sex and engage in same-sex acts, but I don't think that makes you gay unless it constitutes the full extent of your sexual preferences.

(Some of us don't consider ourselves straight OR gay.)

― jaymc, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:23 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

People who don't identify with any sexual preference is all well and good. However, they are only seen as a problem if they publicly enforce the heterosexual mindset of society in order to fit in.

― lilsoulbrother, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:31 AM Bookmark

You're kind of proving lex's point here.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty cool how a guy who confesses that he doesn't have many straight friends is fronting like he's an expert on straight dudes in the same thread

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone post how many irl friends you have itt

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

24

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

don't ask me if dead friends count because I don't know right now, it is a question I've been thinking of a lot lately because a couple people I know have died

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

just include them for now

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

dead people are not irl

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

well see, the thing is I had a friend who committed suicide recently and sometimes when I walk around I think about him, and I wonder if the thoughts that I have about him really should even exist anymore, because he doesn't really exist anymore irl, but does he?, and thinking about him, while walking around, makes me sad, but sometimes it doesn't, so should I even think about people at all, I've been thinking about it recently

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

also he would only add one to the people I know total so its not that big of a deal in that respect but it may be a big deal in other respects

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

~~ghosts~~

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

you should think about him

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

whatever else he was, he was always an idea in our head, and that idea is still there, it is still "real" in a literal sense

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that's pretty much the direction I'm gravitating towards, also, it's like, if I think about him, then I think about him, nothing more nothing less, but then again, its still kind of confusing

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty cool how a guy who confesses that he doesn't have many straight friends is fronting like he's an expert on straight dudes in the same thread

Maybe I should have clarified that I don't have that many close straight male friends, but the ones I do have we discuss these issues fairly regularly. So I do have interactions with people from different orientations.

Also, what is wrong with talking about the unbalance, complex issue of how western World sees sexuality. That doesn't mean I'm fronting like an expert. This shit has been going on for awhile.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the point you are missing is that sexuality can be fluid and isn't necessarily something that's set in granite?

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I think he's arguing people who use the "fluidity" defense only when they're caught getting head from a MOTSS in a men's bathroom.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the point you are missing is that sexuality can be fluid and isn't necessarily something that's set in granite?

Western society hasn't fully accepted this mindset. If we did, then Mister Cee having sex with a transsexual wouldn't be seen as a big deal.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Eric otm - it's really about privilege.

sarahel, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link


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