Japanese New Wave listening club - new albums every Monday

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re-listening. a couple thoughts.

"moonlight" - wow, this might be my fave. so sweeping.

"pacific rim imitation network" - maybe not top tier, but whoa, that guitar solo is pretty "out."

the whole thing is fairly consistent, tho. and a lot of little touches to latch onto with this one.

original bgm, Thursday, 7 April 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"Moonlight" still gives me chills just thinking of it. "Kingdom" is one that has really grown on me. Kind of has a trip-hop beat to it and the organ parts in the background are really neat. BTW speaking of "Lotus" it's one of quite a few songs he did that seem to change depending on how you listen to it...like on a full system vs. headphones vs. say, computer speakers

frogbs, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Does anyone know anything about this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRgLhEGEetc&feature=player_embedded

Moka posted it a while ago, and it just slays me.

cant find anything else about this on google except that its from 1983

would love to hear the rest of this album!

dsb, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's great!

original bgm, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll have to look at it when i get home

but if you know the artist or song i'll see if it rings a bell

frogbs, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The band name is Mariah. I have both of their albums on CD in my hometown, but their sound is a little too experimental for my tastes. I haven't heard them in 4 years, but I'm actually curious to give them a listen again. My mom is visiting me tomorrow, so perhaps I'll have her look through my collection and bring them for me!

Patrick South, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Further googling yielded some results after all:

http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=4272

Apparently some of the lyrics are also in armenian?

Thanks so much Patrick, and if its not too much trouble i would love to hear the other album as well.

looking forward to catching up on this thread.

dsb, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

and if you do end up ripping those, flac would be just great. :-)

original bgm, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I was going to say, if you find them, definitely throw them up here, that would be awesome. I did find it on Soulseek but only in 128 kbps

frogbs, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe not top tier, but whoa, that guitar solo is pretty "out."

most of his solos are like that; check this out

(skip to about 2:10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCmtP7dpk4I

frogbs, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, missed this thread!

Agree about Takahashi, though I think Neuromantic is his best. Murdered By the Music is great though. "Blue Colour Worker" is so uplifting in that relentlessly happy 80s Japanese futuristic mall music sort of way. What, Me Worry has a few great tracks too ("It's All Up To You", "Disposable Love") The "Poisson d'Avril" soundtrack has a lot of nice carefree instrumentals like early Bacharach-ish Pizzicato 5 (pre-Nomi Makiya).

Speaking of P5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp951qxPyuc

corey, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ produced by Hosono btw!

corey, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

that solo rules!! xxpost

original bgm, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link

^^i'm not really into guitar solos that much, but that's pretty much how to do it.

Z S, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

love this thread, btw, not sure if i said that earlier or if i just thought it a bunch of times (and i'm apparently too lazy to take 10 seconds to search)

Z S, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3NPMYzruY4

corey, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

corey - I'm a big fan of "It's All Gonna Work Out" from What, Me Worry. Maybe my favorite of his. Have you ever heard that instrumental soundtrack he did called La Pensee?? It's surprisingly addictive, kind of like one of Hosono's Monad albums. There's a track called "Brise" that's so wonderfully bizarre that it makes me laugh every time.

btw; are there any other P5 albums really worth checking out? I've got the first 6 and the only one I really like is Pizzicatomania, which Hosono produced, mainly because I love the sound (similar to his S-F-X record). They seemed to crank out records way too fast

frogbs, Friday, 8 April 2011 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

also if no one's heard this, this is one of my favorite Sakamoto tunes ever, super surprised to find out that it was him, since it's really wild:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRAub18g1Pw

frogbs, Friday, 8 April 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the early Non-Standard singles (Audrey Hepburn Complex, P5 In Action) Couples, Bellissima! and This Year's Girl.

My favorite P5-related release is Maki Nomiya's Pink no Kokoro from 1981 (which is actually perfect for this thread!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnpfqN1F0Wg

corey, Friday, 8 April 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

nice tune!! i like madcap stuff like that

btw is she the one who sings "Baby Universe" on one of the Katamari soundtracks?? love that song

frogbs, Friday, 8 April 2011 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link

http://technopop.info/pm/st2.GIFhttp://technopop.info/pm/bb2.GIF

P-Model (1992) and Big Body (1993)

P-Model's original run was from 1979-1986, but after six years they reformed into a more focused, techno-oriented unit while retaining their original style. They're very high-quality and are a good intro to the band (or Hirasawa in general). Unlike later albums this is still grounded heavily in technopop, with lots of sequencers and blippy noises. I was only going to post the 1992 album but decided to post them both for two reasons - one, Big Body has "Chevron", one of the greatest technopop songs ever, and two, both of them are short and sort of form a set. I might wind up posting another album but for now both of these are pretty worthwhile. P-Model is more straight-up techno, while Big Body has some more epic (and harsh) style of music. In addition to "Chevron", "Wire Self" (from the s/t) is an incredible tune that deserves repeat listens. If you get to the end "No Room" is a neat update on their first single "Art Mania".

Still not a Spotify link

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool — I've been meaning to listen to P-Model. "Techno-oriented" sounds up my alley.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link

hey frogbs is this a private party or can anybody join in? i've been living in Japan since November and buying up this kinda vinyl like crazy. would enjoy sharing w/ you guyz

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I have an album I'd like to post after you missingNO

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

you should go before me since you've been posting already !

I would love to hear some of the more psychedelic, pre-ymo stuff that's working with a primarily electronic palette.

not exactly pre-YMO, but Vanity Records put out some of the strangest electronic music I've ever heard. the Sympathy Nervous and Tolerance LPs especially are a must for all BGM disciples (they even put out a record by group called BGM iirc), super austere submerged tape loops, primitive drum boxes, insane synth programming. the Alfa/Yen Records axis gets most of the attention especially going towards the digital era but there's a lot of weird stuff out there that kinda went under the radar. there's a cool Vanity Records comp that came out last year that's highly recommended

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

http://youtu.be/V0oKkgiiJlo

http://youtu.be/KHYpx5ucIQc

it's like weird euro minimal synth but with better synths and psychedelic drugs

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

there's def a Cochin Moon/Zuckerzeit/Curiosum kinda vibe

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

That Sympathy Nervous track is great. I'd never heard of any of these before, so thanks.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

missingNO; by all means, especially if you can get away from the Alfa/Yen Records axis of everything...nothing against that label but sometimes its hard to remember that there was other stuff out there. I haven't heard anything on the Vanity label so fire away!

If you guys want to go next week be my guest (or just throw them up whenever), if you can't post up two albums let me know because I still have a good amount and can put up one more if you like. Really appreciated...for a while I didn't think anyone was going to help me out!!

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty cool with this being like two or three people just trading records or whatever. :)

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

absolutely, as much as I want to share these albums, I was definitely hoping to find some lurkers with weirder tastes than me

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I would love to contribute but I'm really just dipping my toes in at this point. knowledge definitely isn't v. deep right now but I am really loving everything on this thread so far.

original bgm, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

No problem — the fun of sharing stuff I already know is seeing the reactions of those not already familiar. It's always awesome to see more people get into BGM.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah...it's kind of the Sgt. Pepper or whatever of the genre; one of the few early synth albums that really "plays up" to whatever speakers you have...if you have subs, there's such a big kick-thump on tracks like "Ballet"...not even Kraftwerk had that! And "Mass" continues to scare the shit out of me in any situation

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's one of the few records of that era that lets the bass in the 808 kick come through in the mix. compare BGM to a Soft Cell record from the same period and you'll see what I mean

there's a different mix of "Happy End" w/ a straight 4x4 808 kick drum that's well worth tracking down

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

is that the one on Sakamoto's Arrangement EP?

btw "1000 Knives" is definitely one of the high watermarks of 808 beats

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed on BGM. just played it on my living room setup last week and it sounded great.

that sympathy nervous track is excellent!

original bgm, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Read somewhere that YMO playing "1000 Knives" live was the first concert appearance of an 808? Not sure if that's true or not but I believe it.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Who else was using them in 1980/1981? It didn't really become popular until the mid-to-late 80's.

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Roland (coincidence?) Bocquet's "Robot Bleu" has a few tracks that use it. Tangerine Dream was using them too in their live shows, but they were using them essentially as "rhythm boxes" and not really realizing their programming potential the way YMO did.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm thinking the Germans would have been among the first, thought maybe Cluster had used them at some point but I guess not. I thought Kraftwerk used them for Electric Cafe but just found out it was a Linn drum machine.

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh wait, it was on "Musique Non Stop"

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxxp; i really like the Sympathy Nervous track; seems to have ties to some of the really old experimental electronic stuff I've heard...not a dig on the music, but I'm kind of surprised it came out as late as 1980

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

my favorite japanese new wave song, talk back by logic system. first heard it in the late '90s and i still find it fresh today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXO5IIIhVy8

Sébastien, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

was thinking about uploading that album some day; that one's pretty good but I haven't really found any of the other Logic System albums worthwhile. he doesn't strike me as much of a composer...

so are you guys going to take over next week or should I keep going?

frogbs, Thursday, 14 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll do Monday.

corey, Thursday, 14 April 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll take the week after then, if that's cool

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Friday, 15 April 2011 07:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Does anyone have any early Maki Nomiya or Portable Rock? That YT upthread is great, would love to hear more, SLSK not yielding any results.

bRon To Run (MaresNest), Sunday, 17 April 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually don't have time to do this atm, but if someone else wants to go they're more than welcome. Sorry :\

corey, Monday, 18 April 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

that's ok; if anyone else wants to post something up go ahead
otherwise i'll maybe put something up

frogbs, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

have you heard 4 to 3 yet? love that record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43Q3xzbX-s

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 1 May 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2tS46rl1k

mishio live with haniwa all stars

Milton Parker, Monday, 1 May 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link

lol, I love that Haniwa live record but never actually watched any live footage before, those are some magnificent solo faces right there. Also I was somehow unaware that Mishio Ogawa had solo records though I really like Wha-ha-ha and Chakra, so I ought to get on that

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

I love Chakra but I never realised that she had a solo career until recently and I've liked everything I've heard so far including 4 to 3, which is ace.

MaresNest, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

Why do I ignore this thread? Afraid people will yell Devo at me out their car windows?

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

The Love, Peace, and Trance album (Mishio + the lady from dip in the pool + one other lady + Haroumi Hosono) is quite lovely

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

There's a track by Shoukichi Kina and Champloose that I'm dying to share here because it's totally brilliant, it's a mix of traditional Okinawan music and loose folk with crazy monosynths recorded live in 1977, however it's not anywhere I can share :(

MaresNest, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Some great selections here. Anyone heard those Fairlights Mallets & Bamboo compilations? I generally don't like various artists compilations but these might be pretty helpful.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 8 May 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

Those compilations are great yes!

MaresNest, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

I see they were brought up in the YMO BGM thread and a bunch of non-genre threads. I'll get them someday. Wasn't there a few related compilations?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

This from the JT link upthread, it seems they've been part of the catalyst that has resulted in the renewed interest in some dusty areas of 80s J music.

"He helped artists such as Prins Thomas acquire copies of “Utakata,” who then put songs from it into mixes shared online, helping turn the record from virtual unknown to secret gem. Beyond Shimizu, the internet played a central role in spreading older Japanese sounds. Portland-based producer Spencer Doran’s 2010 mix “Fairlights, Mallets and Bamboo — Fourth-World Japan, Years 1980-1986” attracted attention, while Gorchov says YouTube’s “suggested” algorithm kept highlighting ’80s Japanese songs."

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

We play a bunch of this type of stuff on our little show and it's def become easier to track down and to get information on over the last year too, which is great, we're going to interview Patrick St Michel soon and ask him whats going on.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/djmix/bo_en/plastic_platform__c67___bo_en/

This is the other one I was thinking of but it's not all Japanese.

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/various_artists_f2/ymo_rewake/

Anyone heard this?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Decided to bump this thread to up some Yasuyuki Okamura, who is not really YMO-adjacent like most of the stuff here but does fit into the funkier division of the New Wave scene. He appears on albums by Cornelius and Denki Groove and if you're into J-pop you may see his name crop up a lot. He reminds me a lot of Falco, but with Prince's falsetto and Michael Jackson's sense of rhythm. He actually borrows a ton from Prince but that's obviously not a bad thing. Anyway, he was pretty huge from 1987 to 1990, during which he released four albums, a greatest hits, some singles, and starred in a film. He's slowed down considerably since then, always "active" in some sense (mostly as a producer and songwriter) but he's only released three actual solo albums after 1990, plus some self-cover discs and collaborations. Partially this is due to two drug arrests which derailed his career; if you know anything about Japanese drug law, getting caught with anything is bad news, even if you're a celebrity. But he's actually managed to become a hot name again these last few years, mostly due to the success of the single "Viva Namida" which wound up a high-profile anime theme.

I find his music to be totally addictive, but I couldn't really figure out what album to upload here; in my opinion they're all pretty good, but he's one of those artists where there's a large gulf between his best work and everything else. So I decided to make a playlist, which I've been jamming like every day this month so far. It starts off with his early hits and more pop-oriented work and then goes into his funkier and stranger material. Included are covers of "Burning Down the House" and "Turtles Have Short Legs", the latter of which is from a collaboration with Takkyu Ishino of Denki Groove. Enjoy!!!

Link: https://mega.nz/#F!4qxw1KCJ!Cp2zeKsnP4-SRb3fISUKuw

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

sounds great, thanks!

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 7 June 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link


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