THE ILX ALL-TIME SPECULATIVE FICTION POLL RESULTS THREAD & DISCUSSION

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And mine as well

the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes! Earthsea was my #1 and it is the greatest thing ever, all three of the original books.

I guess lotr will be number one, obviously

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i was borderline annoyed @ hitchhiker's guide placing so highly (or at all really i think theyre kinda garbage) but when i read ned's post abt the series i softened - i can see how it might mean a lot to other ppl, how it might have real value

lol anyway on to NUMBER ONE...

RANDY BEAMAN ANAGRAM (Lamp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Gormenghast!

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee366/lamp11/1TheLord.jpg?t=1302114814
J.R.R. Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings
378 points/21 votes/2 #1 votes

Lord of the Rings (started by anthony on board I Love Everything on 16-Nov-2001)

Lord of the Rings (started by Rolf Königshof on board I Love Film on 18-Apr-2004)

LORD OF THE RINGS! (started by gaol clichy (clichy) on board I Love Books on 2-Mar-2004)

Lord of the Rings fillum (started by Alan Trewartha on board I Love Everything on 10-Dec-2001)

favorite "lord of the rings" character (started by mike (ro)bott on board I Love Everything on 18-Aug-2002)

lord of the rings modulator (started by Ian John50n (orion) on board All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar on 21-Dec-2004)

Taking sides: Lord Of The Rings vs Lord Of The Flies (started by the anti-momus on board I Love Everything on 17-Feb-2004)

Lord of the Rings OST - much cop? (started by dave C on board I Love Music on 17-Dec-2001)

LORD OF THE RINGS poll (film version) (started by "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little) on board I Love Everything on 23-Jul-2009)

ralph bakshi's lord of the rings (and other adaptation frankensteins) (started by jess on board I Love Everything on 17-Nov-2001)

Silencio (or: Mulholland Dr. vs Lord of the Rings - FITE!) (started by Edna Welthorpe, Mrs on board I Love Everything on 7-Jan-2002)

Lord of the Rings, fashion trendsetter, sez Elle (started by Ned Raggett (Ned) on board I Love Everything on 5-Aug-2003)

Lord of thej Rings: ELves were stupid? (started by Mr. Latham Green (hanle y 3000) on board I Love Everything on 31-Jan-2006)

FORCE FIELD "Lord of the Rings Modulator" ....... C/D? (started by maria b (maria b) on board I Love Music on 4-Apr-2003)

Syncing up Andrew WK and Lord of the Rings (started by richard wood johnson on board I Love Music on 30-Sep-2005)

I Have a Colleague Who Has Suddenyl Become Obsessed with Lord of the Rings (started by MarkH (MarkH) on board I Love Everything on 12-Nov-2002)

Oct. 17 Lord of the Rings exhibit in London pre-Tom FAP special! (started by Ned Raggett (Ned) on board I Love Everything on 7-Oct-2003)

OPO: Lord of the Rings Vs Star Wars (Episodes 4-6) (started by hmmmm on board I Love Everything on 19-Jan-2004)

Lord of the Animated Rings: Bakshi's "Lord of the Rings" v Rankin-Bass's "Return of the King" (started by Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt) on board I Love Everything on 29-Mar-2011)

LORD OF THE RINGS 2 - FIRST BEST FILM NOMINATION FOR A SEQUEL SINCE GODFATHER 2 ? (started by piscesboy on board I Love Everything on 11-Feb-2003)

The official thread for Lord Of The Rings - The Return Of The King [LOTR ROTK TROTK ROK] (NOW CONTAINS SPOILERS) (started by gygax! (gygax!) on board I Love Everything on 12-Nov-2003)

Taking Sides: Star Wars episodes 1 to 3 v. The Lord of the Rings films (started by DV (dirtyvicar) on board I Love Film on 15-Jul-2003)

#1)Tolkien "the lord of the rings" (well, back in my early teens I loved fantasy novels! I've read many of them but this is just insurpassable. Besides it's beautifully written while most fantasy stuff is RPG-derived, which means that the prose is often lacking... What struck me is that Tolkien created an incredibly detailed world, where everything, from the vegetation up to the races and their languages, is richly described. Plus, it' long and I love saga-like books)

― Simone, Friday, April 6, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark

RANDY BEAMAN ANAGRAM (Lamp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

my poor dog

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

yay movies

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank god it wasn't Gormenghast.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I am really kinda pissed at a bunch of stuff I rated in my top 10 not even appearing. what is wrong with you people

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, why don't we all have the same taste as you

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

wau that gap between #1 and #2

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm surprised at no Prydain Chronicles or Chronicles of Amber.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted LOTR number one, btw

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm surprised no harry potter

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

LOTR win just makes me feel kinda nauseated. Milton otm

xp shakey, are you serious?!

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I should have voted.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It's kind of appropriate that lotr is #1, no matter what you think of it. It is the most notable, most popular, most influential work of speculative fiction in the 20th c, probably

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw hell. woof's partially convinced me, although I still find most of The Two Towers, nearly all of The Return of the King and the first part of the final third of Fellowship tiresome as all hell.

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I take back my curses towards the Harry Potter ppl btw

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

TOP 51:

51 Alfred Bester - The Stars My Destination

50 Yevgeny Zamaytin - We
49 Kurt Vonnegut - Cat's Cradle
48 Guy Gavriel Kay - Tigana
47 Philip K. Dick - Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said
46 Neal Stephenson - Snow Crash

45 Madeleine L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
44 Stanislaw Lem - Solaris
43 Walter Miller - A Canticle for Leibowitz
42 Thomas Pynchon - The Crying of Lot 49
41 Edwin Abbott Abbott - Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions

40 Isaac Asimov - The Foundation Trilogy
39 Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse-Five
38 Alasdair Gray - Lanark
37 Mary Shelley - Frankenstein
36 Philip K. Dick - Ubik

35 Lewis Carroll - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking Glass
34 Susan Cooper - The Dark is Rising Sequence
33 H.P. Lovecraft - The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories
32 William S. Burroughs - Naked Lunch
31 Philip K. Dick - The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch

30 Margaret Atwood - The Handmaid's Tale
29 M.R. James - The Collected Stories of M.R. James
28 Fredrik Pohl - Gateway
27 Aldous Huxley - Brave New World
26 Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson - The Illuminatus! Trilogy

25 Mikhail Bulgakov - The Master & Margarita
24 J.G. Ballard - The Drowned World
23 Iain M. Banks - The Player of Games
22 Franz Kafka - The Collected Stories
21 H.P. Lovecraft - At the Mountains of Madness

20 Robert Jordan - The Wheel of Time
19 Philip K. Dick - The VALIS Trilogy
18 J.R.R. Tolkein - The Hobbit
17 Philip K. Dick - A Scanner Darkly
16 Ursula K. Le Guin - The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia

15 George R R Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire
14 Philip K. Dick - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
13 Jorge Luis Borges - Ficciones
12 Philip K. Dick - The Man in the High Castle
11 J.G. Ballard - The Complete Stories of J.G. Ballard

10 Frank Herbert - Dune
09 William Gibson - Neuromancer
08 C.S. Lewis - The Chronicles of Narnia
07 Ursula K. Le Guin - The Left Hand of Darkness
06 Philip Pullman - His Dark Materials

05 George Orwell - 1984
04 Douglas Adams - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
03 Gene Wolfe - Book of the New Sun
02 Ursula K. Le Guin - The Earthsea Trilogy
01 J.R.R. Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings

RANDY BEAMAN ANAGRAM (Lamp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously tho, do ppl just not adore Watership Down the way I do or was that just outside of the boxes ppl were using to pick their votes?

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Never read watership down, though the movie haunted the dreams of my youth

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

btw the dog is my wife's, not mine, so he survives on a technicality

xp I haven't read Watership Down; I guess I should someday.

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously tho, do ppl just not adore Watership Down the way I do or was that just outside of the boxes ppl were using to pick their votes?

― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 12:10 PM (1 minute ago)

it was in my top 5, i think?

sarahel, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't read Watership Down since my early teens. Didn't care for it much then so haven't revisited.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i was just the right age for harry potter when the first few books came out but i suspect i'm at the lower end of the ilx demographic age-wise so i'm not that surprised it didn't show up. also probably major harry potter fatigue around now, i didn't even consider voting for it and have also pledged to myself upon finishing the 7th book that i will not re-read them for at least 10 years.

i did like watership down when i was 12 or so but didn't think of voting for it here

ciderpress, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

watership down is good, but it's no duncton wood.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG

SERIOUSLY IF YOU HAVEN'T READ WD READ IT IMMEDIATELY

I encountered it pretty much by chance when I was... 7? I just assumed it was a kid's book because it had a rabbit on the cover. It remains to this day the second-most enthralling reading experience I've ever had and is largely responsible for me reading fantasy and science fiction almost exclusively.

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Shall we post and talk about our ballots here or in a separate thread?

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

even doing a GIS for "watership down" is sending serious shivers down my spine

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I vote for a new thread for ballots

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh wait, Lamp is posting #52-100 tomorrow, right? I'll hold off with my ballot until then.

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Dan - that was about when the movie came out, wasn't it?

sarahel, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I've neither read it nor seen the movie. I heard it's about bunnies dying and that it's really sad. I don't want to subject myself to that! ;_;

ENBB, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

a couple of notes:

- most ppl voted for at least some sci-fi novels, in fact of the single genre ballots all but two were sci fi (the others were fantasy)
- lost of entries got just as many votes as some really highly-ranked ones, it just seems like some more 'cannonical' pix were consistently on the lower end of ppl's ballots
- like half of the #1 votes ended up off the list, weirdly
- i think the fantasy and ya series were helped bcuz there wasnt any real vote-splitting
- lol: two entries (wells the time machine and tad williams memory, sorrow & thorn) got 5 votes but finished under 30 points
- all the titles w/ only one #1 vote & no others:

Guy Gavriel Kay - The Last Light of the Sun
Kingsley Amis - The Alteration
Michael Bishop - Philip K. Dick is Dead, Alas
Margaret Weiss & Tracy Hickman - The Dragonlance Chronicles

RANDY BEAMAN ANAGRAM (Lamp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Really enjoyed this - keen to read

Guy Gavriel Kay - Tigana
Madeleine L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time

guess I should read the Wolfe as well.

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

my dad read the hobbit/lotr to me a chapter at a time for my bedtime stories when i was a little kid instead of childrens books, so i guess i could blame him for me becoming a SF/F nerd. but i won't because that was a pretty rad thing to do imo.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Dan - that was about when the movie came out, wasn't it?

The movie was a few years earlier. I don't remember if I read the book or saw the movie first but they happened in quick succession; I can't remember if the movie viewing was a special thing that happened at the library or if it was on PBS.

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

xp shakey, are you serious?!

about what

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoever voted the Dragonlance Chronicles at #1 is my hero

first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

aw, the Dragonlance Chronicles also fell off of my ballot at the last second

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't remember if I read the book or saw the movie first

me neither, actually! I think I was 5 or 6. The next summer my family went to England on vacation, and my parents thought it would be really fun to find the exact locations of the book. So we spent the better part of a day driving through the countryside looking at fields of grass. It was kinda boring.

sarahel, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Watership was my #20 and was the highlight of my 2010 reading year. Srsly if you havent, READ WATERSHIP DOWN AND PLAGUE DOGS ASAP. Yes you will cry copious tears but you can't always hide from yr feelings!

the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG sara i'm jealous!!!!

the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Also bcuz there will never be a similar opportunity let me give MAD PROPS to Angela Morley for her awesome wonderstruck score to the Watership movie.

the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Did Ballard get the most number ones?

Spectrist, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

xp shakey, are you serious?!

about what

placing LOTR #1 on your ballot

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Only 2 of my top 10 made it into this ;_;

the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

No Vance = FUCK YOU ALL IN THE EYE-HOLE

the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link


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