Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Oct 2010) - hype, anticipation &c

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xpost Apart from the Dixie Chicks in 98, I haven't seen another mainstream country show but for me the Taylor one was all about her songs and persona rather than the staging - the set-up seemed pretty formulaic, but then so do the structures of her songs - it's what she does inside the formula that counts.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Monday, 4 April 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

The back-and-forth, re-tweeting and referencing between Roger Ebert and Taylor Swift since they started following eachother is pretty funny, and should lay to rest any belief that hers is a world of conservative ideas (because no one would be able to sit through Ebert's 186 anti-republican tweets a day if they were inclined to vote for them).

abcfsk, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

but he doesn't follow her? i can only find one actual communication between them. i'm fairly sure taylor (and most slebs) don't actually read their timelines that much.

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

the last two minutes of that mean performance are great. her facial expressions.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

back to listening to 'speak now' each teatime, since the concert. and two songs that i wasn't sure about before the concert have become huge stayers: 'sparks fly' and 'long live'.

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Liked it. Screw the Mean naysayers.

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thanks for the link, thats a belter.

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

long live is noticeably cheesier than the rest of the album but i like it too. a good friend called the line "AND THE CYNICS WERE OUTRAGED / SCREAMING 'THIS IS ABSURD'" "unfortunate" and he's right but i can dig the song's prideful excess. it's kind of like "juicy" for someone who grew up with disney princesses.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Ah, he did follow her, though, and even made a blog 'page' on her birthday http://twitter.com/#!/ebertchicago/status/14455108200824833. She must read his tweets since she's retweeted stuff not directed at her.

abcfsk, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

ebert: america's uncle

difficult listening hour, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

fantastic song, but the worst line's gotta be when she calls her touring band & herself "a band of thieves in ripped-up jeans" o_O

xp re: "long live"

hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yes some of the lyrics might have been better written but she turned the song from one about her band into one about everyone else in front of her. i looked down the row of seats and my daughter was clapping and crying. and it was happy and sad for me in the same instant.

and i wished i were her age again.

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i like the thieves/jeans rhyme fwiw

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

"Long Live" is my least favorite track; the chorus sounds like it could have blasted over the end credits of an Ann Hathaway vehicle from 2001.

"long live" rules

markers, Monday, 4 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I've warmed up to "Long Live" a lot, didn't care for it much at first. I like how it plugs into her obsession with recognizing, cataloging and holding onto specific emotions and experiences because she knows they won't last -- it goes from "Remember this moment" in the first verse to imagining some future when she's not even in touch with any of these people any more and they're showing their hypothetical kids pictures of it all.

The song it reminds me of most, thematically and in its embrace/effective deployment of clichés is Springsteen's "No Surrender."

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a great way to put it, tipsy. It's def. a highlight of the album for me---my attention lags a bit (a bit!) after "Mean" but peaks again with the last two songs.

Euler, Monday, 4 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

and each night she plays it she's with another crowd/moment telling herself and them to hold onto it.

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

it's cheesy in a stagey way, but it works.

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

like elvis doing 'can't help falling in love' in ever more cabaret-esque stylings at the end of each show.

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"long live" has always been a favourite of mine - you don't need to think about who she wrote it about (just like the love songs), but she totally nails that one moment of being at your absolute best - at the absolute height of that thrill, when you feel invulnerable and 73 feet tall (cf t.i.'s "what you know"). i listened to it a lot around the time of the london protests in december and last week.

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

a protest song without the protest?

nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bS7BoavLMM

very nice! I'm interested in seeing how big it can get on the country charts, because dreaming of big cities isn't the usual country trope in 2011.

I'm impressed with the fashion designer in the video; seems like a ~message~, no?

Euler, Saturday, 7 May 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

AWESOME

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 7 May 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it's like the ne plus ultra of "it gets better" videos. Fantastic!

Captain Hyrax (Phil D.), Saturday, 7 May 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

was not aware she was the banjo player on this? or is that slight of hand so to speak

Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 May 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

did taylor at karaoke yesterday, was great!

a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

what song dogg!!!

markers, Sunday, 8 May 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

you belong with me (but we had to cut it short)

a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

\(^o^)/

markers, Sunday, 8 May 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

just showed the "mean" video to my little one, around the first chorus she goes: "aren't they gonna show her on the railroad tracks like in the cd paper?" and then beginning of second verse video cuts to taylor tied on the tracks and she goes: "aaaaaaahhhh!!!!" totally made my night

great video/song!

ilxor, I know you sometimes feel like ilx revolves around you (ilxor), Sunday, 8 May 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

Great video for "Mean". Uses some country tropes but still very pop glam, you can tell she loves Shania.

Still wish "Sparks Fly" were going to be a single, not just for my sake but for radio's.

I don't wanna be with nobody but boobs. Oh no. (edwardo), Sunday, 8 May 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it's like the ne plus ultra of "it gets better" videos.

was so happy about this too cuz i was pushing this song hard last year as the frontrunner in this sudden mini-genre, even though it didn't seem to have occurred to taylor's marketing people.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 8 May 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

also i did you belong with me at karaoke a few months ago with a bunch of people including jaymc and thoroughly humiliated myself on the chorus, which is wholly impossible for me

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 8 May 2011 06:49 (twelve years ago) link

was so happy about this too cuz i was pushing this song hard last year as the frontrunner in this sudden mini-genre, even though it didn't seem to have occurred to taylor's marketing people.

maybe they (sensibly) didn't want to associate themselves with katy perry and ke$ha.

lex pretend, Sunday, 8 May 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link

"sparks fly" does seem like a natural single, surprised that hasn't happened yet. i think they just gave up in the UK after "mine", though.

lex pretend, Sunday, 8 May 2011 08:09 (twelve years ago) link

ke$ha has an "it gets better" song? I didn't think ke$ha was able to grasp concepts like "change".

Tim F, Sunday, 8 May 2011 08:13 (twelve years ago) link

iirc she tried to graft "we r who we r" on to it all

lex pretend, Sunday, 8 May 2011 08:15 (twelve years ago) link

i wish 'the story of us' had been the first single. that would've been cool

uberweiss, Sunday, 8 May 2011 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

"Mean" is the country radio single, and she released "Story of Us" to pop radio. She shot both videos a few weeks ago, so a "Story of Us" video should be coming soon.

trippin lookin at my portfolio (billy), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

i still don't get "the story of us"

by get i mean remember

lex pretend, Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

Story of Us is still one of my favourites on the album, but 'Mean' could potentially be a killer single, if it catches on. Video is fun, and simultaneously less and more hamfisted in its approach to IGB type stuff than Firework and Beautiful and Fuckin' Perfect etc. etc. etc.

Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

there's not a single song on the album that i think is less than great. however the sequencing of better than revenge => innocent => haunted => last kiss has never worked for me.

uberweiss, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

aw the "mean" video is great

lex pretend, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the story of us video's coming out tomorrow

markers, Monday, 23 May 2011 05:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! So glad it's a single. Stellar choice.

failure to recognize semi-ironic 'faggot' (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 23 May 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

website says the video's out at 8 PM tonight

markers, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

i assume that's usa time. i've got bed to go to in uk. ho hum.

nultybutnice (whatever), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

yes, 8 PM EDT

markers, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

here we go: http://www.mtv.com/videos/taylor-swift/654729/the-story-of-us.jhtml#id=1664460

markers, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link


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