― Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:23 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:28 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 17 March 2003 06:16 (10 years ago) Permalink
What I think is interesting about Garbage is that they fetishised the digital at a point when the obvious influence - namely, hip hop - was actually still in a fairly naturalist mode, so that they were forced to instead tie their mast to "electronica" (of course they might have decided to do this anyway to suit their audience). "Electronica" has receded in terms of influence on pop-rock (replaced by an electronically reinvigorated hip hop), and now what seemed like really obvious musical choices for Garbage to make at the time appear quite curious. The songs on their second album are quite light on groove in the conventional, hip-hop sense; they're much monolithic, in that they're so cluttered that the treble and the bass are essentially fused together. The closest modern reference I can think of is Max Martin; the obvious other one is Phil Spector. It means though that they sound much more unambiguously pop now than they did then... at least to these ears. It's a pretty "white" sound obviously, which is where I think they stand out quite clearly as predecessors to the more electronic end of nu-metal.
I don't have the recent album as both the singles annoyed me, the bridge of "Cherry Lips" excepted.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 17 March 2003 06:22 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Calum Robert, Monday, 17 March 2003 12:09 (10 years ago) Permalink
CD80 Garbage "portable" go!
VowOnly Happy When It RainsSupervixenQueerStupid GirlMilk#1 CrushPush ItTemptation WaitsI Think I'm ParanoidSpecialWhen I Grow UpThe Trick Is to Keep BreathingYou Look So FineThirteenThe World Is Not EnoughAndrogynyCherry Lips (Go Baby Go!)Breaking Up the GirlParade
(chronological according to first release - single or album - and missing "Shut Your Mouth", replaced by key album tracks. 80:20)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:08 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Debito (Debito), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:10 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:13 (9 years ago) Permalink
over-produced angst rock with average vox, no sex appeal, and darkish-i-mean-it-man lyrics.and the men in the group were just 40ish frat rockers
― paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:04 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:18 (9 years ago) Permalink
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 6 November 2003 06:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:08 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Damian (Damian), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:20 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 10:05 (9 years ago) Permalink
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 6 November 2003 10:13 (9 years ago) Permalink
Garbage Vol. 2 sounded great at the time and in a funny way even better now as the sort of lost ancestor for Linkin Park-style digi-rock - only not much of the current digi-rock is as burnished and kaleidoscopic as tracks like "Temptation Waits", "Push It" and Hammer In My Head".
OTM!
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:18 (7 years ago) Permalink
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:23 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Manson (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:27 (7 years ago) Permalink
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:33 (7 years ago) Permalink
did the new one tank that badly?
w. garbage, i dunno why they bothered playing live and stuff. they were really a prefab sprout type studio band?
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:34 (7 years ago) Permalink
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:38 (7 years ago) Permalink
Hits package out Tuesday
Fuck the remixes, where's the b-sides?
― C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
Tim Finney unsurprisingly OTM about Version 2.0 odd charm (can a record be an anachronicism yet ahead of its time?).
Their singles hold up fairly well. In a fit of euphoria I once called the above album the Parallel Lines of the nineties.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:29 (5 years ago) Permalink
i think they have about two pretty key singles: 'vow' and 'i think i'm paranoid'
i think i've still got that debut s/t record sitting around somewhere.
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Cherry Lips" has to be the best thing to come out of the whole JT LeRoy affair.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
The special limited edition 2-CD set adds to the original CD a bonus disc of remixes by some of the world s most renowned DJs, including U.N.K.L.E., Massive Attack, Todd Terry, Crystal Method, Fun Lovin Criminals, and Felix Da Housecat.
Fun Lovin Crims ? worlds most renowned DJs ?
what next a free prince album in a Sunday newspaper.
oh hang on ..
― mark e, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
Where's that thread where ned and I argued endlessly about garbage? That was a good one.
― Tim F, Sunday, 15 July 2007 08:30 (5 years ago) Permalink
where's that thread where ned and tim argued endlessly about rubbish?
that's just about every thread!
j/k :)
― Charlie Howard, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
When was the last time you thought, "You know, I would love to hear some Garbage"?
― Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 1 August 2008 05:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
When I saw this thread!
― moley, Friday, 1 August 2008 06:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
1995
― electricsound, Friday, 1 August 2008 06:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
1 month ago i put version 2.0 on. the debut still kicks its ass, but Push It is something else.
― Surmounter, Friday, 1 August 2008 13:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
I stuck Supervixen (aka Only Shallow II) on the other day!
― Just got offed, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
Always made me car-sick.
Bunch of fat dads squeezing into those tight pants.
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
I re-discovered 2.0 year ago and I still listen it to it pretty regularly. I like it much better than the debut
― baaderonixx, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
Surely Shirley's debut should have been out by now, no?
― StanM, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
Three weeks ago! I really wanted to hear "Hammering in My Head."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
I had the hits album out the other day (the regular albums are in storage). Speaking of Shirley, I read in TV Guide that she's going to appear in a semi-regular role this season on Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
I spent an afternoon a few weeks ago scouring the web in the hopes that some enterprising nerd compiled & illegally uploaded a collection of Garbage b-sides.
― David R., Friday, 1 August 2008 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
And that's all I'm saying about that.
― David R., Friday, 1 August 2008 16:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
they have some good songs
― latebloomer, Friday, 1 August 2008 16:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
The first album singles SOUND fantastic, with awesome hooks, and I love them... but god are they inane. "I'm Only Happy When It Rains"? Just look at that title. Couldn't find a worse example of packaged DARK NINETIES NIHILISM AND BADDITUDE. Obviously this was essential to their success but it'd be kind of nice if they had less aggressively stupid lyrics.
Still great though. "I'm only happy when it ray-heeens!" So much fun to sing along to. This was great car music.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
They're also your one-stop shop for alt-rock videography cliches, if you're into that kind of thing. Dirty, chemically damaged film... illegible writing scrawled everywhere... flares between over- and under-exposed shots...awkward stop-and-start speed changes... watching "Stupid Girl" just brings back hours and hours of MTV.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
dud becuz lol 90s
― velko, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
They're also your one-stop shop for alt-rock videography cliches, if you're into that kind of thing. Dirty, chemically damaged film... illegible writing scrawled everywhere... flares between over- and under-exposed shots...awkward stop-and-start speed changes... watching "Stupid Girl" just brings back hours and hours of MTV
One of the basic hd TV channels in my area is a Latin music channel. I was channel surfing the other day and and happened upon a video by a singer/group that I missed the name of which was practically a cover of the "Stupid Girl" video (similar visual effects & sets, even the singer looked like a latina Shirley Manson).
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Alternacandy is the best!
― u s steel, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'd forgotten how exciting 'vow' was, having just heard it for the first time in probably ten years
― carbonara not glue (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
Tubular bells + kettle drums in middle section of Cherry Lips = classic
― ecuador_with_a_c, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 06:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
I still really like 2.0
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
"I Think I'm Paranoid" was integral to my improvement as a Rock Band player last year.
Never thought I'd see Shirley T-1000 it up as urinal and then stab a guy at the time. Shows what I knew.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 09:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
I heard "Why Do You Love Me?" for the first time in years on the muzak where I had lunch yesterday. I'd forgotten how crummy it was. Sounds like an outtake form the first album. It seems like it should work--the band has a good pulse, Manson was a charismatic as ever--but it just doesn't gel. And that was their comeback single!
― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
I remember, as a 16 year old, thinking that Garbage would take over the world; be the next Sonic Youth or Nirvana. Hah! I pretty much only like the intro riff fromt he first song ont he first album now, even if it does sound like the intro of Loveless.
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
new album out, yeah? halfway through it and it's more like "bleed like me" than the earlier albums, unfortunately.
― producer / dj / humanitarian (reddening), Thursday, 24 May 2012 04:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
I stuck Supervixen (aka Only Shallow II) on the other day!― Just got offed, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:01 (4 years ago) Bookmark
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lol thought i'd bone up on old mbv and this suddenly hit me. and it's pink
now listening to this instead obv
― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:35 (3 months ago) Permalink
lol, so true.
This is better than anything on the new MBV record.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:00 (3 months ago) Permalink
beyond love the first two albums, especially v2.0 which is so generous in its devotion to thinking of sounds you haven't heard.
― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:17 (3 months ago) Permalink
also never get tired of the "supervixen" drop-out gimmick; i am easily amused (aroused?)
― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:19 (3 months ago) Permalink
well since it's asked way upthread this is the thread with the back and forth between ned and tim about garbage TS: Curve's "Horror Head" vs. Garbage's entire discography
an ilx classic imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:01 (3 months ago) Permalink
you'll take Version 2.0 from my cold dead hands
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:12 (3 months ago) Permalink