― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link
So they've seen the concept, but we got you involved so we can make sure they have the ability to do what we've ... concepted.
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
I just hope they don't learn this new term. Ever since I told them I would run a session on weed (identification of exotic plants) I have been at risk of cruel laughter.
― Issadora (Issadora), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
"We got you involved so we can make sure they have the ability to do what ... we've conceived."
"Oh wow, congratulations, I didn't even know you were seeing anyone!"
??
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Not as exciting as it sounded at first - she was just agreeing to arrange a meeting.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Thomas Nashe, the English minor poet and satirist, thrown out of Cambridge University in the 16th century for an unknown reason, felt the need — as a modern Merriam-Webster lexicographer put it — “to remedy the surplus of monosyllabic words.” To meet this need for longer locutions, he claimed credit for inventing the suffix -ize, but in 1591, Nashe found himself criticized (as he would put it) for starting the polysyllabic parade.
The -ize still have it. Whenever a new verb is launched using Nashe’s little trick, traditionalists are shocked. Only a generation ago, some academic jargonaut coined prioritize, meaning “give priority to” or “rank in order of importance,” and stiffs like me ran to the ramparts to denounce it as ugly, bureaucratic and unnecessary. Before that, we language mavens gnashed our teeth at the replacement of the simple finish with the pompous finalize, to no avail; both those -izes, and dozens of others, usaged their way into dictionaries.
Now we are faced with the rise of operationalize. Implement was bureaucratic enough as a substitute tool for “carry out,” but the vogue to Nashe-ize the phrase “to make operational” has seized the realm of academe and politics with a rush of just over a million Google citations. “That’s a good goal,” said Senator Hillary Clinton recently about the Bush doctrine to rid the world of tyranny, “now how do you operationalize that in a sensible way.”
My job is to hoot at this Nashe-ization for a few years, supported by the dwindling legion of those determined to stay the course, and then to cut and run with the usage antelopes. But wait: an exception. I am a happy resident of Nashe-ville about the usage — already at the quarter-million mark— of anonymize. Eric Schmidt, C.E.O. of Google, was quoted last month deploring a leak of subscribers’ private data by AOL with “The data as released was obviously not anonymized enough.”
What’s the matter with privatize? Here’s what: that verb was used by some politicians to torpedo what other politicians called “personal accounts” in Social Security. With privatize scaring people away, we privacy nuts needed a new Nasher. It is now provided by anonymize, soon to be followed by anonymization-resistant, the coiner of which prefers to masquerade as a sock puppet.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link
"gift" is not a verb
― nabisco, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
says the guy who obviously hates "Night Shift" by the Commodores
― J0hn D., Friday, 18 January 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
It might sound like "gifted us," but it's actually an arcane and clever pronunciation of "gave it to us."
― nabisco, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
gave it to us geff itta us gefftta us giftad us gifted us
― nabisco, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Also I do not allow for poetic license or rhyme scheme cheating in the legal fine print on a brochure
― nabisco, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
let's table this discussion and take it off-line.
― gr8080, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
when/why did this stuff start? i mean, i can't imagine businessmen in the 19th century talked like this.
― J.D., Friday, 18 January 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
let us acquisitione that spende
― max, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
actually I think Disraeli has several industrialist characters in his novels that talk like the 19th-century version of this
'It's a booked place though,' said the stranger, 'and no mistake. We have all of us a very great respect for Manchester, of course; look upon her as a sort of mother, and all that sort of thing. But she is behind the times, sir, and that won't do in this age. The long and short of it is, Manchester is gone by.''I thought her only fault might be she was too much in advance of the rest of the country,' said Coningsby, innocently.'If you want to see life,' said the stranger, 'go to Staleybridge or Bolton. There's high pressure.''But the population of Manchester is increasing,' said Coningsby.'Why, yes; not a doubt. You see we have all of us a great respect for the town. It is a sort of metropolis of this district, and there is a good deal of capital in the place. And it has some firstrate institutions. There's the Manchester Bank. That's a noble institution, full of commercial enterprise; understands the age, sir; high-pressure to the backbone. I came up to town to see the manager to-day. I am building a new mill now myself at Staleybridge, and mean to open it by January, and when I do, I'll give you leave to pay another visit to Mr. Birley's weaving- room, with my compliments.'
'I thought her only fault might be she was too much in advance of the rest of the country,' said Coningsby, innocently.
'If you want to see life,' said the stranger, 'go to Staleybridge or Bolton. There's high pressure.'
'But the population of Manchester is increasing,' said Coningsby.
'Why, yes; not a doubt. You see we have all of us a great respect for the town. It is a sort of metropolis of this district, and there is a good deal of capital in the place. And it has some firstrate institutions. There's the Manchester Bank. That's a noble institution, full of commercial enterprise; understands the age, sir; high-pressure to the backbone. I came up to town to see the manager to-day. I am building a new mill now myself at Staleybridge, and mean to open it by January, and when I do, I'll give you leave to pay another visit to Mr. Birley's weaving- room, with my compliments.'
― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
and is it wrong of me to also think of the the efforts that go into the decoding of dealer-speak by the cops in The Wire?
― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link
watch me superman dat hoe
^^^ is no noun sacred??
― gbx, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
nsfw, obv
like, any trade is full of coded chatter and jargon; is managerial/MBA-jargon really so different from the way colleagues in various other professions talk to one another? Isn't the problem rooted in the fact that managers have to communicate with other workers outside of their typical sphere more often, so us non-managers have to listen to what sounds like insane babble?
― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
that is if you separate management/public affairs/general counsel ass-covering neutralized bullshit speak from the conversation. that type of "business-speak" is a whole beast unto itself and has been covered in depth elsewhere
― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I was trying to get at this above -- I actually like word-repurposing when it's interesting or convenient or fun, but a lot of managerial stuff gets to the point where it's making up words to fill in for words that already exist (e.g., the bit about "orientate" upthread). Using "spend" as a noun that means "spending" is just weird.
― nabisco, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm trying to think of verbs and nouns that get repurposed or abused in my area of work in a similar fashion
― El Tomboto, Friday, 18 January 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
"Coming down the pike" is bad enough, but when they say "Coming down the pipe" I want to mini-gun the conference room.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link
toe the line tow the line tuff row to hoe
― sexyDancer, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Or when they repeat words like "incent" because they don't want to use the actual word "incite" because it has negative connotations - it would be interesting if they made it up, but they didn't and they just sound like idiots for repeating a word that doesn't exist.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
drop the lime
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"Deliverables"?
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think there's a general rule about the goodness or badness of business speak, I have to say. During a big upheaval at the care facility where I worked until '03, we had a lot of meetings where we talked about the "culture" of the organization. I was pretty put off by this at first, but I came to see it as useful shorthand for "the various habits the whole team develops in going about their work, and the assumptions that like behind them, and the prevailing mood that those assumptions and habits help to build."
I am now defending some of the stuff that used to make my daily life completely insufferable, but what the hell.
― J0hn D., Saturday, 19 January 2008 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link
when did "in silo" become a thing? can fuck right off again imo.
― what kind of present your naked body (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link
'in silo' comes from some sort of company structure diagram, right?
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
that would indeed be the context in which it appeared. repeatedly.
― what kind of present your naked body (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Had not heard before, was investigating, looked at this wiki page (which may help explain - it looks like it comes from that world of ISO-numbered management structures) and read that 'systems thinking promotes a foaminess of collaboration'.
― woof, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:50 (fourteen years ago) link
that'll get rolled out in the next sprint
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i love the word "monetize"
― max, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
something so creepy and sinister about it
"in silo" sounds like an awesome horror movie I haven't seen yet
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"in silo" was the finnish release name for 'Witness' iirc.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Where's nabisco been lately, anyway?
― Sex Sexual (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
people like you find it easy,naked to seewalking on air
don't walk awayin silodon't walk away
― falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
transmission me that asap
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Nabisco was so OTM on this thread, even using ("utilizing") the very orientate/conversate analogy I always rely upon myself. Dunno what people have against the word "orient" - maybe it's considered non-PC in some convoluted way.
xpost - First place I ever encountered the word "monetize" was on ILM, courtesy of a poster then calling himself "Monetizing Eyeballs". "Monetize" suggested some portmanteau of "vandalize" and "Monet" - blurring up a completed painting after the fashion of an Impressionist, and "Eyeballs" reinforced the visual aspect, so I got a fully unique (and completely wrong) interpretation of what the name meant. Wasn't until some months afterward that I began to encounter the word "monetize" in its usual context.
― Ceci n'est pas une display name (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I've certainly heard of "silo structure" or "silo mentality" in a workplace - the idea that every deparment is a world unto itself and wont cross-communicate with the rest of the company, to its supposed detriment. These days its all about generalisation instead of specialisation, grumble.
― ABBAcab (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Was listening today to an interview with the two guys who run the agency that created the new Old Spice ads. When asked how they work on ideas, one of them replied, "Well, we concept everything together . . ." That one just drives me insane. We already HAVE a perfectly good word for what you're doing: conceive. Most disgusting savages, etc.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
TS: Business-vapo-speak VS Masters-Degree-in-Educationese
― Aimless, Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link
just heard the phrase "drink from the hose"
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
'conceive' is too sexy for orfice use
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Boy Wonder weighs in
Stop “Disrupting” Everything: How a once-useful concept turned into a meaningless buzzword.http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2013/05/disrupting_disruption_a_once_useful_concept_has_become_a_lame_catchphrase.html
― I will forlornly return to my home planet soon (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
that fuckin guy
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
secretly reads ILX?
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Wasn't sure if this belonged here, in the college/debt thread or what, but:
http://www.fastcompany.com/3007541/mfa-new-mba
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
this graf is almost worthy of Friedman:
Artists know the world of adaptability and resourcefulness very well. In fact, according to an annual survey tracking the career trajectories of more than 65,000 artists from hundreds of arts schools, the Strategic National Arts Alumni Project (SNAAP), close to 60 percent of arts graduates hold more than two jobs at once, and approximately 20 percent have more than three.
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Arts students may not have all the traditional skills, but they have the most important one: desperation creativity.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
I have a particular fondness for articles with the format "HEADLINE POSITING OUTRAGEOUS SUGGESTION"/"Body text quietly suggesting that the answer is 'probably not' at the end of the seventh paragraph, but otherwise arguing an enthusiastic 'YES'"
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
GRAAAAAAAA just received an HR "onboarding" packet & immediately thought to come here to share the horror, but I see it's been covered.
― emilys., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link
Only one thing more patronising than "onboarding". "offboarding".
― mmmm, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link
when i was leaving a job a couple months ago, the board wanted to have a "debriefing" with me. I did not work for the military or for an intelligence agency. This was an arts non-profit.
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link
I was not fired from my last job; I was "separated" -- is this a thing?
― #REV! (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link
"I would expect"
― anvil, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
what is a corporate workstream and how do i align to it
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Thursday, 7 August 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
Do what you are told and don't cause problems.
― dustups delivered to your door (Aimless), Thursday, 7 August 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link
speed
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 7 August 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
don't drown
― j., Thursday, 7 August 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
h8 'workflow'
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
i wish work was a flow
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
'solutioning'!!!!#
'here's how we're going to solution it'
argh
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Thursday, 14 August 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
i never saw eye-to-eye with my old manager, a nice South African lady who nevertheless used to ask me (w/r/t sales strategy) if I was 'building a pipeline'. I literally had no clue what she was talking about, having never encountered this expression and especially with an accent that sounded like she was saying 'bi-plane' :-/
― 3kDk (dog latin), Friday, 15 August 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link
wow sterl that is a prize specimen
― j., Friday, 15 August 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
Building a pipeline = meh. otoh, building a biplane = A+! Then you can fly it instead of attending meetings.
― Aimless, Friday, 15 August 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
i've got one more thing i want to cover off
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
i am tired of hearing "triage"
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Just saw the verb "to feedback", as in
"I'd like to feedback on the excellent level of service..."
― bert streb, Friday, 3 October 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link
In January 2014 the Government published its response to the Transforming Youth Custody consultation outlining its plans to introduce Secure Colleges, a new form of youth detention accommodation with innovative education provision at its core which will equip young offenders with the skills, qualifications and self-discipline they need to turn away from crime.The consultation response confirmed that a purpose-built Secure College Pathfinder would be opened in the East Midlands in 2017. If the Pathfinder proves successful it will inform our vision for the future of the youth custodial estate in England and Wales.
The consultation response confirmed that a purpose-built Secure College Pathfinder would be opened in the East Midlands in 2017. If the Pathfinder proves successful it will inform our vision for the future of the youth custodial estate in England and Wales.
― sktsh, Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:58 (nine years ago) link