Hate to interrupt this mid-90s episode of Later With Jools Holland but honestly this album is unfuckable-with - from Witches Brew right through to Perfect Stranger is an incredible run.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 April 2011 13:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ooh... That live thing sounded horribly like the brand new heavies. Oh well, at least it confirms that, yes, sadly at 30 years old I have developed a crush on a celebrity.― ford lopatin (dog latin), Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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― more than a Bale-sized gulf (whatever), Friday, 1 April 2011 22:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
What is wrong with having a crush on a celebrity at age 30? God forbid a 30 year old finds someone attractive!!!
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 1 April 2011 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
Plus Brand New Heavies is great. Siedah Garrett all the way.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 1 April 2011 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think there is a legitimate fear of live musicianship with music like this less because of whether Brand New Heavies in and of themselves were good and more because historically dance music and dance-pop music that starts going down that path quickly has gone to shit.
― Tim F, Friday, 1 April 2011 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well anyway her voice is great.
― abcfsk, Friday, 1 April 2011 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
i don't know much abt dance music or pop and whatnot
but that louder song is really really good
i like the other ones too, i watched all the youtubes.
they do real cool stuff with vocal effects, reminds me of old dub effects but like more computer space age stuff, like extending the ends of lines until all these layers of decaying echo are bouncing off each other
that's probably pretty common in dance music i've never heard, i bet, but yeah my rock dude ref point is old dub shit i guess.
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 April 2011 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
Lilsoulbrother, naw I'm just surprised at myself really as I've never been a celebrity crush kinda guy, not even in my teens, so to find myself kind of sighing and rearranging my hair when I see a photo or vid is very peculiar and not characteristic of me at all. Still she is lovely, isn't she? Sigh....
― ford lopatin (dog latin), Saturday, 2 April 2011 01:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
standing at the barwith my friend oliviaaa
<3 <3
― lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 11:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
NO BOY IS ON A LEVEL BELIEVE ME
― lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 11:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
― lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 12:24 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark
Best line imo.
― ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 11:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
finally heard this. its good but not as great as it could have been. theres a radio 1 sort of approach to the production which tires me out after a while, very LOUD and impossible to ignore, and i do like lots of the production touches, but despite what i said upthread about her being the person who really leads these songs rather than the producers, her songwriting ability actually gets stretched a bit thin over a full album (and what was she doing with the shout outs at the end?!!?) and you start to think she doesnt have quite as many ideas as first thought. she ends up resorting to a lot of the same sort of melodic tricks over and over. lovely voice throughout, but i think she could do with a writing partner. is only the first album though, so hey.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 4 April 2011 11:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
it would have been stronger if they included new versions of as i and tell me i think.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 4 April 2011 11:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
What's wrong with the shout outs?
― Number None, Monday, 4 April 2011 11:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
The shout outs are so sweet.
― ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
the other katy b (bush) would never do shout outs
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
I've heard the shout outs once and I never want to hear them again. Save it for the sleevenotes.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
exactly. it just makes her sound amateur to be honest. its not a hip hop record. but if it was at least a separate track like on kanyes first album that would make it a bit better.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
the shoutouts only bothered me by virtue of the track they're spoken over being really great and jazzy - like if I was a DJ I guess I'd think it a waste of a good instrumental
― 1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
this album is great imo+btw+fuiud
― 1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
There's a Britishness about this album which I am completely incapable of grappling with, even though it sounds like it was programmed by robots for me to love it
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
shout outs on an album = almost always a waste of plastic/filespace
im thinking that shes actually just not that good at crafting album cuts, shes better just doing straight up club hits like lights on, as i, and so on. obv the hit to miss ratio of songs like that means that you cant always come up with the goods doing that kind of thing all the time, but those are still her best moments - the rest just doesnt really match up. so maybe she *is* better off being a producers puppet, or at least co-pupeteering herself. i do need to hear the album more though.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
ehh I don't really get to go to funky nights or whatever much but I'm not sure the difference between 'club track' and 'album track' on this is as big or clear as you're suggesting
― 1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Titchy you are insanely wrong about virtually everything here. Given most of the album was produced by Geeneus and Zinc, who know their way around a club track, the distinction you're drawing is virtually non-existent. Almost everything here is a club track, or at least a club-friendly track.
― Matt DC, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
I find the shout outs kind of sweet actually, it's like having the credits roll on what's otherwise a slightly underwhelming closer (relative to the rest of the album which is A+++).
― Matt DC, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think they confirm the album's modest, reverential touch which draws her to me more and stops her becoming another Lily Allen or whoever.
― Evil Eau (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
matt, i dont care who produced it. i think what i am saying is simply that there are about 3 obvious club hits on this, the rest isnt quite as strong, not cos of the producers, but cos katy didnt come up with songs as strong as say, lights on (which render them album tracks, though not as strong as 'album material' cos shes aiming for club hit status each time out). which might seem unfair (do like that shes trying to insert more of her personality into this than most garage or funky vocalists have done/would do) but then this as you said, this is a club album. but maybe i wasnt paying enough attention. i should listen a few more times to make sure ive not missed anything.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 4 April 2011 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
which draws her to me more
careful, dog.
― nultybutnice (whatever), Monday, 4 April 2011 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
love the line "now i love a bad boy mentality/ but i don't want to be visiting no jail"
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 02:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
and the next one - "just know when there's someone out there mocking me / be my gangster when it's time to get real" <3
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 08:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
GUYS THIS AMEN BREAK ON "WITCHES BREW" IS FUCKING SLAAAAYYYING ME
― ToeJam & Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 14 April 2011 04:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I like how it's all slow motion.
― Evil Eau (dog latin), Thursday, 14 April 2011 09:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
<3 Broken Record
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i've fully come round to "broken record". remixes from todd the god and jacques greene also pretty u&k
there really isn't a single song on the album that i don't love to some extent - even the ones i think are slightly weaker still make me very fond of them somehow
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
you didn't like 'broken record' at first? that kind of makes me a little sad...
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
i did like it, i just didn't think it was AMAZING like "katy on a mission" and "lights on". that is rectified and i now think it's very AMAZING.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm not big on "Broken Record" as a whole but i LOVE the vocal breakdown bit.
― Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
i guess i can see it; it does remind me of radiohead a little bit
compare:
i would toss and turn at night with your voice in my head
vs.
miss could you stop the noise i'm tryna get some rest
it's a stretch for sure, but not that much of one
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
Zinc remix is nice too xps
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i had to come around on 'broken record' - looooove the ascending/descending vocal in the verses
― boehner und der club of gore (donna rouge), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
compositionally, it's great! (plz do not read this as = soundz like Radiohead) I love the way the ending mantra repeated over and over again--a common trope in pop music--ties into the 'broken record' conceit, I love the R&B harmonizing towards the end (I assume this is what NumberNone is referring to as the 'vocal breakdown'), the little countermelodies underneath that long note in the chorus...I think the songwriting chops add a whole new dimension to Katy's style and keeps things from turning into "guess the beat" (though I like that game)
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
i love this woman - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/apr/24/soundtrack-of-my-life-katy-baltho she should really mention mamas gun over baduizm (not that baduizm is bad, its not)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
be interesting to see what happens when she goes a bit R&B as she prob will (even if its just trying her hand at it, rather than coverting full on)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
Is this going to get a US release any time soon?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
'I used to like a lot of R'n'B, but when I analysed most of those songs, and looked at the chord progression or whatever, there wasn't much there'
bet lex would love this if anyone else said it
― just sayin, Friday, 29 April 2011 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
Seeing her tonight... sooo excited...
― mike t-diva, Monday, 9 May 2011 10:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't think there's much in house music when you "look at the chord progression" either.
― Matt DC, Monday, 9 May 2011 12:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
"Is this going to get a US release any time soon?"
its released worldwide on google.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 9 May 2011 12:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
What's that stuttering sample on 'Go Away' from? The King's Speech maybe?
― PG Harpy (Doran), Monday, 9 May 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think i worked out it was the prodigy ("charly" iirc)
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 May 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink