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Yancey is one of the kickstarter cofounders?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i thought it was common knowledge that yancey was one of the main KS guys. also i always thought of him as a pretty major part of ILM for however many of the early years he was posting.

some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I read his on-again/off-again blog for a couple years before I even found ILM and was glad to find him here. Was disappointed when he stopped posting. Cool that that's what he's up to these days.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

kickstarter kickin knowledge


Projects that reach 30% of their funding goal succeed more than 90% of the time. You can see that as the line turns green, the percent of projects that succeed approaches 100%.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's kind of a "no duh" statistic though, isn't it?

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean the curve could be steeper or flatter i guess but it's kind of like saying "people who grow to be 5'9" are more likely to end up over 6 feet tall"

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

we were all 3 feet tall once

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean the curve could be steeper or flatter i guess but it's kind of like saying "people who grow to be 5'9" are more likely to end up over 6 feet tall"

― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, April 29, 2011 7:20 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

i mean, no, not at all. it's more like saying "people that grow to be 3 feet tall almost always end up 10 feet tall."

fwiw on the clickthrough there's way more

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i guess that's a more accurate way of putting it. just seems like a pretty predictable and logical stat that they're dropping like a revelation or truth bomb imo.

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk i mean i phrased it the way i did because the idea that projects reaching 30% get funded fully almost every time is really surprising to me, i would have expected there are a lot of projects that stalled out at higher numbers, or that if there was a threshold like this it would have been much higher--"get to 30% & statistically you're basically there" is way more surmountable as a goal than "promote this until you are all the way there, cause it won't happen otherwise"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw al i'm following this stuff/bumping this thread cause some ppl i run with are thinking about moving to kickstarter to fund some art projects and i actually wanted to tap yr experience on this, so def don't let me make it sound like i know what i'm talking about.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha no it's cool -- i guess i have a different way of looking at how KS tends to work for people but i don't know if it's necessarily because of my personal experience with it. but sure lemme know if you have any questions.

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

By itself, the graphic doesn't mean a lot. For example, what's the breakdown is dollar/values
as goals.

How does it skew when comparing projects that ask for trivial funding as opposed to those requesting more serious money? What's the impact of publicity or recommendation by big name linkage?

Also, from the pov of the non-user, there's no way to gauge how hard 30 percent is to reach. Is it just a meaningless pass through point on the way to full funding? As presented here, it looks fairly ambiguous without clarification.

Gorge, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

seems like people are more reluctant to be the first ones to jump in, or to fund something that looks like a futile effort, but happy to keep the momentum going and give it that last push.

adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

that i think is true, but perhaps less true than that imo your project either has what it takes to go the long haul, or is just nowhere near it, with little in between.

hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Ok my friends all use bandcamp and soundcloud, but I've been doing the mediafire for years now, but I'd like to branch out. What are the differences between the two? Which is better? I really like the soundcloud presentation, and the streaming embedded files, but I wouldn't mind being able to charge for things. Is that a bandcamp thing only? Also, does anyone ever make money off it? Most of my stuff is covers, too, so I don't know if those sites will allow them. Opinions? Suggestions?

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think soundcloud is way better for sharing, but is not geared towards selling at all - you can link to where your stuff is for sale but can't sell directly on soundcloud.

you can share things fine on bandcamp and it is probably a lot more flexible though. i think there is no good reason not to use both.

he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, does anyone ever make money off it?

i'd say we're not in the black yet but it has definitely been worth having

he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are there any reasons to choose soundcloud? Other than prettier embed graphics?

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, one good thing is there's an android app for it, and bandcamp won't stream on android

also soundcloud 'feels' better for non-releases, demos etc as bandcamp is more geared towards "albums", but that's more just my opinion

he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

also the social networking aspect of SC that BC pretty much doesn't have, if that floats one's boat

he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can you sell albums/songs on Soundcloud?

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

not directly, but you can link to stores/bandcamp etc

he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Friday, 12 August 2011 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think i post new stuff more frequently on bandcamp, just like the layout better. soundcloud i do mixes (tho also mixcloud now), covers, "singles"

Dominique, Friday, 12 August 2011 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

hey, thought i'd just do a little bit of shameless self-promotion...i've started a kickstarter to get a digital compilation i just put out for free pressed on vinyl. exclusive tracks from amen dunes, wooden wand, sore eros, xray eyeballs, the renderers, black eagle child and bunches more. there's a link from the kickstarter page to download it. alright, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1671364068/press-blackburns-various-deficiencies-vol-2-on-vin

jonathan - stl, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

a more important chart

sanskrit, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

totaling funding, projects in aggregate.

sanskrit, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow. nearly doubling since the beginning of the year.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

as someone on my facebook said: 33 grand to start a blog?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ricleichtung/ad-hoc

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

kickstarter abuse?

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

although they do say that they are gonna do a print version too. there is that.

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty good NYT story on Kickstarter the other day, they interviewed Yancey.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

yancey s.? what's he up to?

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

hunter hunt-hendrix isn't the liturgy guy's real name is it? the lana del ray of metal. or maybe it is. kinda unbelievable, but you never know.

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Corunning Kickstarter! I had almost forgotten that myself -- it's mentioned upthread.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Meantime, Doug Mosurock on this blog thing is a treat. As are his commenters:

https://www.facebook.com/mosurock/posts/2962663298311

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

ugh, that mosurock thing makes me WANT to donate to this adhoc thing

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

It can't be any more odious than requiring FB membership in order to read the damned thing. Data mine THIS, Zuckerberg.

doug watson, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't understand some of the stuff on kickstarter that has like $10,000+ in funding. i thought people were poor now.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

the whole IDEA of kickstarter is that you can raise that kind of money from a large number of people who might only be able to individually contribute in the single or double digits, dude

some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah haven't you seen Breaking Bad?

scott seward, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

how much money do you think i could make with a kickstarter to never post on ilx ever again?

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

not as much as some people!

some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

:(

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

although an enterprising mod could easily intervene and say "just give me the money, i'll permaban them for half the price"

some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

idgi why would that make you frown

some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i want a lot of money, have no skills or talent

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

be more annoying then.

scott seward, Friday, 10 February 2012 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

come on, you can do it.

scott seward, Friday, 10 February 2012 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

can someone explain to me under what circumstances two separate people might have pledged $325 or more to make this happen?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 10 February 2013 17:25 (4 months ago) Permalink

1. mom
2. dad

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 10 February 2013 17:28 (4 months ago) Permalink

3. Gonna need to see those "acoustic sessions" happen

that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 10 February 2013 17:31 (4 months ago) Permalink

I can't figure out whether kickstarter is about "niche fandoms have incredibly useful new way to fund projects" or "people who come from money have new more socially acceptable way to nudge similarly situated friends/relatives to fund their enthusiasms" -- must be some proportion of each but what are the proportions?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 10 February 2013 17:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

The first post was a review of the lovely Cambridge duo, You Won't, and their debut album, Skeptic Goodbye. To be honest, I was kind of starstruck upon receiving positive feedback from the band after the post- I was honored to be given such high praise for my work. I imagine this is how a musician feels when someone thoughtfully reviews their work. It was at this point that I knew the site could be something more than just my musings on indie music, bike news, and good beer.

zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 10 February 2013 22:13 (4 months ago) Permalink

lol

dirty drone barack boy (some dude), Sunday, 10 February 2013 22:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

I'm sure there are people that use kickstarter to ask their parents for money.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 February 2013 00:24 (4 months ago) Permalink

wk, Monday, 11 February 2013 01:27 (4 months ago) Permalink


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