great season but probably would have been better with snakes
― beyonc'e (max), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link
ya, imagine richie aprile... with snakes
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
would love a listing of every single song used in the entire run, so many perfect moments
― NI, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
rubbish finale tho
― czn (cozwn), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
like, its kinda a miracle that Junior survives as long as he does given the line of business he's in, but in the end he ends up like any other hapless senior.
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
wow, just checked wikipedia and apparently the finale places in the top 5 sopranos eps
I thought it was garbage, really put me off watching season 3 after watching seasons 1 and 2 in quick succession, and subsequently I never went back to the show
― czn (cozwn), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link
are you nuts, the last episode is amazing
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
take it to that thread tho, this is for S2!!!
the one with the fever and the dreaming? barf
― czn (cozwn), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
no, the finale to season 2, I hated it
I probably just need to watch it again (bcs it sounds like I'm in a minority) but I found it v.frustrating and a bit of a letdown (too sombre) after the rest of the season
agree w.all above re:richie aprile, brilliant
― czn (cozwn), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link
and dude, you so need to go back to the show...
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
ja I know
think I'll re-watch season 2 and torrent 3/4 in the meantime
― czn (cozwn), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a pretty minor moment but the scene where carmela kisses the decorator is so amazing, her 'oh jesus' just before it happens - perfect. i rewound that over and over, just wowed by edie falco. other falco greatness in this season: the ep where tony goes to italy and she tries to convince pussy's wife not to divorce him, really trying to convince herself. <3 u edie.
― Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link
her character really opens up in Season 2 - agreed about the bit with Angie Bonpensierro (is it me or doesn't a different actress appear as Mrs. Pussy in season 1?). Honestly going back over season 1 made me think Carmela was a fairly one dimensional bitch for most of it. Although the stuff with the priest is A+++ classic. what a loathsome dude.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
"rubbish finale tho"
WHWHAHTHT?!?! The finale of this season is incredible! This was the last great season IMO, although 4 is pretty strong all the way through IIRC.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I was just gonna say, the food poisoning episode is a masterpiece
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Btw my favourite minor character in this show is rosalie aprile... So good
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think I believe in this list anymore.
Best HBO/Showtime series?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah they introduce some great characters in Season 2 that really broaden the show, primarily the women - Janice, Rosalie, Angie, plus more screentime for Adrianna and Carmela
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Although having not watched most of these seasons in ages, I might be better off trusting haha.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I think my favorite musical moments are usually when people are driving:- Janice unironically rocking "Mother and Child Reunion"- Tony totally ironically rocking "Dirty Work"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i seem to recall info somewhere along the line abt junior never really getting paid
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I think they are shorting him once Tony installs him as a figurehead, but I don't think that = he's not as good a gangster as Paulie.
Hesh is obv kind of an exception though.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
paulie also lives rather meagerly
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link
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hey! I said I probably have to watch again but I remember at the time being disappointed with it... I have v.little patience for dreams
― czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
but letting yrself get shorted obv is not being a v good gangster - tho that could just be him slipping w/age
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
yah all the dream shit is one of the things i really hold against the sopranos - some of them were well done but i mean come on serious dreams plz
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link
i will never not love talking fish in dreams
― Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Does he? My memory is of him being a few steps above Chrissie and Junior, he's got his own place that's pretty nice, he takes care of his "Ma", etc. Maybe I'm wrong.
I think the first few dream sequences (particularly Chris's) are really not well done, fairly clumsy. By the season finale though they are on some next level.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
the Wizard of Oz dream is very uh waht
(great music editing in it though)
rubbish finale tho - "Whaddya Talkin' About?"
http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/img/episode/season02/ep26_fish.jpg
― D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
see! hilarious!
― Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
sets up excellent Xmas gag too
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
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he lives in a rather bleak apartment as i recall from the whole decorating it w/tonys horse painting scenario - did obv have some cash to drop on the retirement home tho
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^thought it was a house...? I dunno I can't remember - I'll take notes when I get to that episode.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Paulie cuts coupons, but is that leaving meagerly or just thriftily?
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
leaving = living
Well I think it's clear from the show that Tony is a much much more successful gangster than Junior is, but that Junior is still a cut above most of the rest of these guys.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
My fave Richie quote from this season...
Tony: I thought I told you to back off Beansie!Richie: I did. Then I put it in Drive.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link
If memory serves, I believe this was based on a real-life NYC/NJ capo who was pretty high-up and wealthy but lived rather spartanly in an apartment over a butcher shop.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link
yah junior/paulies living situations prob hav more to do w/bachelorhood than any financial realities
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link
much like young attorney roommates sitting in a blank apartment before a lol hueg tv smoking weed they are just environment indifferent
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link
ya exactly
and i gotta say i am NOT a fan of dream sequences as a rule but sopranos is a huge exception... they are really brilliant and totally integral to the show
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link
ok I ws on crack
― czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/3096975269_a473876f71_o.gif
― czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:11 (fifteen years ago) link
urgh
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
are you trying to give me a migraine
but im glad you acknowledge you were on crack
I am seriously sorry tho I didn't read far enough upthread.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 28 November 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link
"I'm in ore of you."
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 November 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link
btw Tony explicitly tells Junior to live on "the pile of cash you're sittin' on" in this season
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 November 2015 03:36 (eight years ago) link
Tony, putting Janis on the bus: "All in all though, I'd say it was a pretty good visit."
I caught many a bus right on that spot (Newark Penn Station).
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 November 2015 03:59 (eight years ago) link
Bus scene is a beaut. "We buried him on a hill"
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 29 November 2015 04:04 (eight years ago) link
Do they check ID on Greyhounds? Or is that the quite obvious reason why she's not flying home.
― pplains, Sunday, 29 November 2015 05:00 (eight years ago) link
haven't ridden one in a while but I think they just take your 'boarding pass'. and Greyhound is so disorganized that even if they do they probably forget half the time.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 29 November 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link
esp pre-9/11 (which this was)
i was fine with the finale, animated talking fish always are a plus, as is Asbury Park in winter.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link
god that finale was devastating.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 29 November 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
lol i thought of 'we buried him on a hill' this morning
― balls, Sunday, 29 November 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
always lol at janice's "I loved him so much!" in that scene.
― nomar, Sunday, 29 November 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
is season two when aj gets existential and livia's 'poor you'?
― balls, Sunday, 29 November 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
"Nitch"
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 29 November 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
i kinda think you guys laugh at the wrong things sometimes at least per D Chase's intentions.
strange, HSB, i don't get "devastated" by these scumfucks
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 November 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link
immoral gangsters or not, Tony having to ice his childhood friend was still a rough watch.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 30 November 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link
i mean no I don't even remotely "root" for Tony in the conventional sense (same w/ Walter White on Breaking Bad), and it's always more interesting watching Tony continually trying to rationalize his shitty actions by stretching his code well beyond its limits. but that whacking was diff than the others cos of who it was. even if Big Puss was also a terrible human being, which by all accounts he certainly was.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 30 November 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link
The key to the sequence was how wobbly, weak and pathetic all four of the characters were.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 November 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link
Tony having to ice his childhood friend
was Pussy ever identified as such? cuz Gandolfini was about 15 years younger than Vincent Pastore.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 November 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
yeah i don't think they grew up together or anything. T did refer to him as his "best friend" multiple times tho
― k3vin k., Monday, 30 November 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
yeah Pussy is Paulie's generation
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
lol thought y'all were talking about tony b at first
― balls, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link
...banderas?
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Monday, 30 November 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
NO SPOILERS
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
Posted this in a different Sopranos thread - pretty sure Big Pussy's name came from a Roth novel published in 1998:
Related to Sopranos origins and Newark, this is from Philip Roth's I Married A Communist (1998):He got his name (Little Pussy) because he started out professionally as a cat burglar, sneaking across the rooftops and going in through the windows with his older brother, Big Pussy. In grade school they were already up all night stealing. When they even bothered to come to school, they sat sleeping at their desks and nobody dared to waker them up. Big Pussy died of natural causes, and Little Pussy was bumped off in 1979 in real gangland style...three bullets from a .32 in his head. The next day Ritchie Boiardo tells one of his cronies, "Perhaps it was for the best--because he talked too much."― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
He got his name (Little Pussy) because he started out professionally as a cat burglar, sneaking across the rooftops and going in through the windows with his older brother, Big Pussy. In grade school they were already up all night stealing. When they even bothered to come to school, they sat sleeping at their desks and nobody dared to waker them up. Big Pussy died of natural causes, and Little Pussy was bumped off in 1979 in real gangland style...three bullets from a .32 in his head. The next day Ritchie Boiardo tells one of his cronies, "Perhaps it was for the best--because he talked too much."― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
― my harp and me (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link
Chase:
…people say “What the fuck are these dreams doing in my gangster movie?” Well, from the get-go, this is a story about psychology…so much of psychotherapy has to do with dreams. But because its a psychological show, the dreams often have to be interpreted. Because they have to carry a point. And so – “Funhouse.” That came about because I couldn’t bear the fact that we were going to have to do some kind of procedural in which Tony found out Pussy was a rat. Like he was going to have to call up some cop, or some guy would come to him and then he’d follow up on the lead. And they’d stake out Pussy’s house. And they’d follow him to the FBI. Blah, blah. I fucking would have wanted to kill somebody. So I thought, “How can he just know it?” Can’t we skip all that crap?
http://sopranosautopsy.com/season-2-3/funhouse-draft/
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link
Lol at carmela crushing on the wallpaper dude “anybody ready for another sandwich?”
― calstars, Saturday, 12 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link