Rory Gallagher - classic or dud

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that's a dude who looks like he wails IMO

^ Oh, he does. Irish Tour absolutely kills.Get that one, no doubt.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

lol at all the rockist fites going on when this thread began. kinda glad that whole argument has died down around these parts?

tylerw, Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

absolutely. I never understood that particular battle.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i get not wanting rock music to be the standard by which every other music is judged, but after that ... so what?

tylerw, Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda glad that whole argument has died down around these parts?

Pretty much. Boy, I'd forgotten about this thread. Well, I'll be listening to my RG collection tonight, I think.

Gorge, Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that song opens Irish Tour. Gallagher gets introduced, does a little tuning and then nukes the place. One of the best openings to an album ever.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 17 March 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

just downloaded irish tour

this is the definition of going ham on guitar. everything wow! hard shit, slow shit, acoustic shit, dude is a fucking master.

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

robin trower eat a dick

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Eagle Records is reissuing his whole catalog; they started with Irish Tour '74 and just last week I got a package that included the s/t debut, Deuce, Live in Europe and Blueprint, plus a new 2CD set called Notes from San Francisco - a previously unreleased studio session from '77 paired with a disc of liveage from '79. I'd never heard the guy until I was flown to Ireland to follow The Answer around for Relix magazine in 2009 - I bought a 2CD The Essential... on that trip and became a casual fan. Now that I've got this much of his stuff, I intend to do some real wallowing.

that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

That's pretty awesome, psyched he's getting reissued.

(nb: I like Trower too)

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, dude pretty much goes IN at all times

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I think Rory Gallagher's song writing gets a bit undersung in the wake of his instrumental prowess. I really particularly like his Duece LP.

earlnash, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

favourite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heD3siavZBg

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

robin trower eat a dick

― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:14 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

the rory documentary "Ghost Blues" is on Netflix instant! pretty interesting! i didn't know how important he was to the sense of Irish rock identity w/kids like The Edge and Bob Geldof etc

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

johnny marr is in it really briefly and he just talks about how once he say Rory change a string WHILE STILL PLAYING A SONG which marr says "there should be a monument to that somewhere" haha

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

van, phil lynott and rory are like the holy trinity of irish rock

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

i didn't know how important he was to the sense of Irish rock identity w/kids like The Edge and Bob Geldof etc

^you wouldnt know by listening to their shit music that either of these clowns were influenced by someone like Gallagher. For kicks i may go back to back on Irish Tour and Rattle and Hum and hear how pathetic the latter fares.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

the influence wouldnt have been claimed as directly musical

"fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

yeah i mean The Edge was only 15 i think he said when he saw rory w/his older brother and friends

the sense i got was that there just weren't that many bands that really ID'd as "Irish" that were big on the UK/world stage, so the kids there really identified and rooted for them, as michael b. said Van, Them, Thin Lizzy, Skid Row, Rory etc

also in the documentary Rory and his ppl put on some big outdoor Irish rock fest that i guess was a big deal, and he also would tour Northern Ireland when other ppl wouldn't

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

though i never do understand how people don't get that you can be influenced by ppl musically w/o sounding like them :/

usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

I heard this for the first time a few days ago on the radio. lovely song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25x0OFIEhfA

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Friday, 16 August 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I've been getting into this dude lately. His appearances on Don Kirshner's shows are pretty great, especially watch the keyboardist and bassist...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqtX8dGHhEs

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 10 April 2015 07:42 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

irish tour right now...his soloing on "Million Miles Away" just stunning

I said some things about Robin Trower on this thread I regret.

Also the exchange in 2011 upthread about the Roy Buchanan album cover "Loading Zone" between me & tyler was a precursor to the "I've Got My Own Album to Do" thread lol

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

lol rereading this thread i was thinking the exact same thing about that buchanan cover.

new noise, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I find it endearing just how many RG songs are about being a detective or a spy or a crook/gangster. Interesting way to avoid a lot of trad blues cliches.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

man the first few posts on any old ilm thread about a classic rock artist has the most absurd opinions

And there is a general sense that people who like Rory Gallagher are essentially people with a narrow, warped, and failed take on what makes music good or bad.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

Postcards From the Popist Past

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link

two months pass...
ten months pass...

The 74 Irish Tour doc is on Amazon Prime. What a fucking player, just pure excitement every time he takes a solo.

Also he's playing Cork and other towns in Northern Ireland and these crowds probably didn't get that many big bands, they are just out of their minds at times

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 February 2020 04:32 (four years ago) link

IIRC, there'd been an IRA bombing the morning of one of those shows, and the promoters wanted to cancel, but Gallagher argued that the city needed the show and carried on.

Also, due to the Troubles, they weren't able to get the mobile recording truck to most of the gigs on that tour, so as it ended up that most of the album was taken from Nagra tapes recorded for the movie.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 15 February 2020 04:56 (four years ago) link

Wow.... had no idea, they do show some bombed out houses in Cork, parts definitely look like warzones

He's so inventive and exciting as a soloist. In a just world he'd be regarded higher than Clapton

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:38 (four years ago) link

There weren't any bombs in Cork, wrong Ireland.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link

Rory was from Cork! In fact you can see this statue of his guitar outside the station:

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0b/99/2d/ee/found-rorys-place-in.jpg

And this awesome statue in his birthplace, Ballyshannon:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Rory_Gallagher_Statue_-_Ballyshannon.jpg/800px-Rory_Gallagher_Statue_-_Ballyshannon.jpg

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link

He really was one of the best guitarists, makes Mr J. Bonamassa sound like a beginner

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link

tom may recall this differently (better!) but in the 70s uk rock papers, gallagher was held in fond regard, as a good thing that was also an anomaly: as like the honest and committed flying dutchman of great blues guitarists, who never lets up touring

(which notion i believe i gathered from the EOY awards, where he was year-on-year chosen by the readers for the "annual vasco de gama medal for always being on the road")

iirc this special EOY category vanished with punk, when "blues guitar" was no longer considered necessarily a virtue? but i haven't checked this in all the relevant weeklies tho: nme switched away from what was left of this kind of music and never got on the metal train -- sounds in particular may have remained more loyal to the concept :|

mark s, Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link

I don't remember much talk about Rory Gallagher at all, tbh! I imagine you're right he wasn't thrown on the scrapheap though.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link

My confession is that I don't think I'd heard Rory Gallagher until a few years ago and I still have heard next to nothing other than the occasional live thing I might stumble across on YouTube.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

Wow.... had no idea, they do show some bombed out houses in Cork, parts definitely look like warzones

Just FYI, Cork is at the opposite end of the island, about as far away as you can get from where the bombs were going off. The footage you saw was probably filmed in Belfast.

Diddums Is a Ranter (Vast Halo), Saturday, 15 February 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

oops yeah they seemed to play a little loose with editing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

also I'm dumb

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvO5OdZgtyM

I love how it's just the jam parts.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 March 2021 00:56 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

I've been listening to so much 70s blues rock lately (latest purchase was Foghat's debut) but had never really given Irish Tour '74 a listen before today. Guitar playing is incredible, but I really wish his keyboardist didn't sound like he was using a Casio.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

You might want to check the Live! In Europe album, which was done right before he added keyboards.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

I personally like the rinky-dink electric piano, as it adds a unique flavor absent from other acts of the time & ilk. I can see how it could grate tho.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

Thanks for the Live in Europe recommendation, this sounds better to me already.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

No keys on the 1979 Stage Struck live album either, more in the hard rock direction too if that's your thing.

speaking the language of goals, going forward (Matt #2), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

i'm another one who's grown to love those keys. that guy's on "blueprint," one of my faves. plus i love how he announces his bandmates on the live albums. "rod de'ath rod de'ath." talk about your de'ath metal! (i know he's the drummer but...)

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

The Beat Club Sessions is great early live stuff if you don't mind it a little raw

Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 07:09 (two years ago) link


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