Curious to know if anyone out there has heard any of their later material.
Yes. It's OK. It is what it is, it's jazz rock. Some good tracks here and there. Agree that "Rocksession" is quite consistent however. Oh, they dabble in ethnic/Eastern textures on quite a few albums, which can be interesting (tho I prefer Wolfgang Dauner and Dzyan's similar efforts).
Thanks to scott pgwp for restoring my faith in this thread and in the notion that there might be some "Krautrock" out there that I haven't heard yet that might actually be worth hearing! Thought we were kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel towards the end last time round. Deutsche Wertarbeit is totally up my strasse, could say that it's shading into Neue Deutsche Welle a bit (1981 after all), also reminds me of Chris Carter in places! Great sounds on that Earthstar album! There's a bit of wandering about aimlessly trying to find a tune, a la Klaus Schulze, but I can forgive that.
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
... sorry it was van smack not scott who posted those albums!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Must have been von smack, right? ;)Will get that Deutsche Wertarbeit album tonight, curious after all the praise (somehow I've never seen this thread?!)Bought Opal] a couple of years ago but it's (was?) not up my Straße, I'll try again. Sounded way too "crowded" (krauted lol sorry) for my taste
― willem, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Catching up to that Earthstar record posted a couple weeks back... some of it sounds like it could be dropped directly into an Emeralds album and no one would blink.
Is it somebody else's turn this week?
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Neil S is this week. Where is NEIL?
― van smack, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
uh oh sorry guys will put something together now
― Neil S, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Ashra - New Age of Earth
http://img262.imageshack.us/i/covercustombi9.jpg/
Allmusic review, which credits the record to Manuel Gottsching solo:
Opening track "Sunrain" sounds like it could soundtrack a narrativeless documentary on just that, or at least some sequence of nature photography; bright and sparkling, the synths and drum machines blend together nicely. "Ocean of Tenderness" has a similar sense of film accompaniment, being a gentle, minimal flow of keyboard shading, electronic chirps deep in the mix, and a soft lead melody that carefully unwinds throughout the lengthy track, with a low-key bass pulse appearing a few minutes in as contrast. "Deep Distance" lives up to the title nicely, combining sweetly spaced-out drones with minimal percussion that sounds like raindrops as much as anything else as lead melodies slowly come to the fore. "Nightdust," which takes up the original second side of the album, captures the original psych-jam feeling of Ash Ra Tempel more than anything else.
Spotify link
I'm on an ambient tip for this week. First choice is a lovely, lovely record from Ashra, with burbling synths and psychedelic guitar to spare. I also really like the record cover, for ages I thought it was a prehistoric monolith, only lately did I realise it's a skyscraper.
More thoughts and another choice to follow.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
oops album cover is:
http://rebels.img.jugem.jp/20110129_1806257.jpg
― Neil S, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
One of the best ambient albums. Great choice. I also like the other cover to New Age Of Earth:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xR09LKGOmXM/R53-luol1OI/AAAAAAAAAGw/fdMOBXKbW1E/s200/ashra.jpg
― van smack, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Eno - Moebius - Roedelius - After the Heat
http://991.com/newGallery/Brian-Eno-After-The-Heat-475340.jpg
P1tchf0rk review
After the Heat differs sharply from its predecessor in tone, as well as its English language titles and the occasional vocal presence of Eno. "Most of the day we were at the machinery," he sings on "The Belldog", alluding perhaps to the creative ferment happening in Plank's studio.
Perhaps considered a minor record in both Eno's and Cluster's large back-catalogues, but I think a really good one. It perhaps shades a little too far into inertia in paces, but there's always interesting stuff going on.
I've also managed to do a cover connection of sorts!
So, have at it!
― Neil S, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
xp wow at that over cover, amazing!
― Neil S, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I like the monolith cover, too.Reminds me of Holy Mountain.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
New Age of Earth on grooveshark for those who cannot access spotify
I have been on a virtually nonstop Gottsching kick for days thanks to this thread.
― Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks LL.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Here's the other one for this week
After the Heat on grvshrk but as usual the sequencing seems to be a little screwy
― Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
After the Heat was sequenced differently on its original release vs later CD reissues
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 March 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"After the Heat" is the first EMR album? I prefer the 2nd one.
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Ashra's New Age of Earth is one of my all time favourite krautrock/kosmische records, I can't vouch for it enough!
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry folks, I have an album I want to share but mediafire, which I've never tried before, doesn't like me it seems. I'll keep on trying.
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i get probs uploading to them too, try m3gaupl0ad
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
try multiupload because it will upload to a bunch of those share sites.
― van smack, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
@ Algerian, add me to the queue, i think i have a couple i'd like to share
― ashra williams (san frandisco), Thursday, 31 March 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok, thanks for your advice Algerian Goalkeep and van smack. Think I'm good to go now. Here's goes;
La! Neu? - Cha Cha 2000 Live in Tokyo
http://www.allflac.com/covers/b_48443_La__Neu_-Cha_Cha_2000__Live_In_Tokyo_Cd1-1996.jpg
There's some discussion of this recording in the Klaus Dinger post-Neu! thread Klaus Dinger post-Neu
For me this is one of Klaus Dinger's high water marks. A lengthy two cd long version of the la Dusseldorf "Viva" classic 'Cha Cha 2000' released on the Japanese Captain Trip record label. The performance on disc 2 in particular is heavenly, one the the most profound examples examples of the Dinger beat in action.
Given the low key import release of the La! Neu? stuff I'm sure there'll be a few folks here who will be keen to check this one out. You won't be dissapointed.
Links;
CD1 - http://www.multiupload.com/TFZ9S2Q8T4
CD2 - http://www.multiupload.com/USBMANST9Y
Enjoy!
― AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 31 March 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks! I'm a bit worried about the idea of a 2CD with one song on it tho!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 March 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah...I'm on this...thank you! I'm kind of with you Tom, but one of the La Neu releases I have is over an hour long and really only features two tracks - one is a 20-minute update of "Hero", and the other just a longform jam that goes for over half an hour. It totally rules. The disc is called Dusseldorf. I'd upload it if I could get a week in here *cough, cough, cough, cough*
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
huh, somehow had the impression that the la neu material was slight without having ever heard it. but this sounds cool. definitely looking forward to spinning it.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm planning to go through all the albums sooner or later to get a better overview of it all. AFAIK the La Neu moniker was just a blanket term for whatever Dinger happened to be feeling at the time. I also have "Zeeland" and it's totally different, very low-key with a prominent female vocalist. It's generally fairly good, but way overlong.
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, I've never checked out anything dinger has done outside of neu before. which is kind of weird because I've dipped into tons of stuff from the neu/cluster/harmonia axis and have found value in everything I've heard.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Get the first two La Dusseldorf albums; I can all but guarantee you'll like them
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, duh. I forgot about la dusseldorf. those are awesome, yes.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
so, live in tokyo starts very low key. you can even hear lots of audience movement, coughing, a bit of chatter, and what sounds like some movement on stage. kind of digging the intimate feel so far.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
He's sold before the music even starts, Klaus would love that
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh this pic was also a factor:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/21998855/La+Neu+Laneu.jpg
aww.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
david lee roth family reunion
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
just wrapping up the la neu lp. loved this one!
it comes off as a bit amateurish in spots, particularly when the cha cha 2000 groove flat-out falls apart suddenly once or twice. but that's also part of the draw too - there's a real sense of joy on this recording and the free nature of the performance is part of that. doesn't hurt that the motorik bits just sound unstoppable.
― original bgm, Thursday, 31 March 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Looking forward to this...Cha Cha 2K's such an epic, it stands to reason that he'd want to underscore those qualities in a major (2 CD's!?!!?!) way.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 31 March 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Glad your all enjoying this one so far. I'd encourage those that are sceptical about to give it a try, it really is more dynamic and engaging than the '2cd's worth of 1 song' premise sounds.
Dinger's playing guitar on this one I assume and his playing is fantastic at points.
― AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 31 March 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmmmmmmmmm, can't agree, this just isn't very good. Did Dinger want this out or was it put out without his permission? Can't hear much of any worth in the 1st CD at all, it takes about 30 minutes(!) before anything interesting happens. 2nd CD is better, there is some good guitar playing, drummer(s) pummel away entertainingly, but whatever way you slice it, it's still a 50-odd minute jam. Thx again tho!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 1 April 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Kinda with Tom on this. It doesn't really feel like the type of recording that was intended for live use. It's not very high-quality and they flub a few things. Plus I don't really feel that it really picks up too much but maybe I'll have to have another listen. I don't really mind that it's just one song since Cha Cha 2000 is basically an amalgam of everything Dinger has ever done. I do like the communal, intimate vibe of it though.
― frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
6 April - ilxor13 April - jacob sanders20 April - Tom D27 April - ashra williams (san frandisco),
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
can i get one?? (if i'm not banned by then)
― frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
6 April - ilxor13 April - jacob sanders20 April - Tom D27 April - ashra williams (san frandisco),4 May - frogbs
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 1 April 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
push me back plz :(
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Friday, 1 April 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't really mind that it's just one song since Cha Cha 2000 is basically an amalgam of everything Dinger has ever done
Sacrilege probably, since "Viva" seems to be everybody's favourite LaD LP these days, but I always thought "Cha Cha 2000" was too long anyway, well the piano bit in the middle really.
― Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 April 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to live in tokyo volume 2 just now. Worth looking into if you dig the live version of "cha cha".
I understand the comments criticising the lengthy periods of nothingness on cd 1 of the "cha cha" live recording but its worthwhile for the perpetual climax that is the second disc.
If factforthose that are sceptical about checking this one out i'd implore you to perhaps download cd 2 by itself.
― AnotherDeadHero, Saturday, 2 April 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, download both, don't let critics put anyone off
― Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought i was the only one that thought this...
― Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Saturday, 2 April 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Did we skip a week?
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 7 April 2011 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ilxor requested to be banned so i guess we need to bump everyone up a week. Want to post now jacob?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 7 April 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
give me an hour and I've have them uploaded and posted?
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link