R.E.M. news - yay

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tylerw, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

REM "return to form"

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Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Thursday, 17 March 2011 10:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Isn't it just what happens when a) being in a band becomes a career and b) it's lasted long enough that there is no other way for the people involved to find a way of self-definition and c) the career becomes so successful that it actually becomes harder to split, given the number of people who are dependent on REM (or U2, or the Stones or many other bands) for their living. It becomes a grind of trying to find inspiration, sometimes with success sometimes not. I'd guess REM had said everything they needed to say by Automatic, and since then they've been trying to find things to say.

Alan Partridge Project (ithappens), Thursday, 17 March 2011 11:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

so i haven't wanted to turn this off yet!
(i almost wanted to during the peaches duet)

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey this was OK! just a little generic-y sounding at times.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Pageant next on the reissues list, second CD with 19 demos from '86 including an early take on King Of Birds (although that might be instrumental) and Wait, which iirc from bootlegs is pretty good.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

that sounds cool. stil haven't gotten the last two reissues, but i plan to.

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think LRP might be my favourite REM record, but I just don't listen to it as much as say Up.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

i go back and forth between 'pageant' and 'fables.' excited for this

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

If I'm allowed I'll post a tracklisting for the demo's disc later.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think LRP might be my favourite REM record, but I just don't listen to it as much as say Up.

Wow! Maresnest, I feel exactly the same way! I've always felt like "Up" was made by a different band yet still showcasing what makes REM great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

:) There's something consistently bright, optimistic and headrush-y and also weirdly a bit post-hardcore about it, like those tours with Minutemen got to the core of Buck's songwriting for a while.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Here we go:

Disc Two: The Athens Demos – all previously unreleased
(Recorded March 1986 at John Keane’s Studio, Athens GA)

1. Fall On Me 10. Cuyahoga
2. Hyena 11. I Believe
3. March Song (King Of Birds) 12. Out Of Tune
4. These Days 13. Rotary Ten
5. Bad Day 14. Two Steps Onward
6. Salsa (Underneath The Bunker) 15. Just A Touch
7. Swan Swan H 16. Mystery To Me
8. Flowers Of Guatemala 17. Wait
9. Begin The Begin 18. All The Right Friends
19. Get On Their Way (What If We Give It Away)

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh jeez..


Disc Two: The Athens Demos – all previously unreleased
(Recorded March 1986 at John Keane’s Studio, Athens GA)

1. Fall On Me
2. Hyena
3. March Song (King Of Birds)
4. These Days
5. Bad Day
6. Salsa (Underneath The Bunker)
7. Swan Swan H
8. Flowers Of Guatemala
9. Begin The Begin
10. Cuyahoga
11. I Believe
12. Out Of Tune
13. Rotary Ten
14. Two Steps Onward
15. Just A Touch
16. Mystery To Me
17. Wait
18. All The Right Friends
19. Get On Their Way (What If We Give It Away)

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love "Cuyahoga" so much.

1) "Let's put our heads together & start a new country up"---been feeling this a lot lately; & Stipe sounds so earnest about it, a totally suitable attitude imo. I want to do this too.

2) The rush from the third chorus into the bridge ("rewrite the book")---sublime. And the idea goes too far & it dies out, into the opening again.

3) How the rhythm section swings: the opening bass riff gets it started, and then whilst the first verse kinda thuds on the drums, the pre-chorus bit ("this is where we walked...") just dances; and so does the chorus; you could dance to this & it wouldn't be that awkward!

4) "We are not your allies, we cannot defend."

5) Is that feedback on the second verse? Or is that an organ? It adds to the menace, whatever it is. I think there's an electric piano in that second chorus at the end, so it's probably keys. I don't have any session notes handy.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

euler you are otm. the whole album's galvanizing. the first two songs are calls to arms

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

The bridge of Swan Swan H has always been one of my fav rem moments

secretariat on demand (Z S), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

My main problem with this album is that "What If We Give It Away?" & "Just A Touch" are the worst songs on an REM album until "Ignoreland". I know they're old songs & I love pre-Murmur REM but they don't fit the flow of the album. They'd work ok as singles, though they're still sub-par. The chorus of "What If We Give It Away?" is a whine; & "Just A Touch" doesn't pop like the raver they're envision, plus its chorus sounds like a mishmash of lines ending up in "I Believe" with, well, just a bunch of garbled words---the kind of thing REM haters accuse Stipe of! I'm happy when it ends because that moment of Stipe falling off is a highlight & it leads into a couple of great songs.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

"just a touch" works for me like a reassertion of "little america" -- "i can't see myself at 30" to "i'm so young, i'm so goddamn young." never been a huge fan of "what if we give it away" though either

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah that last bit is the good part of "Just A Touch". They must have been struggling for material to put those two old songs on there.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

man "The Flowers of Guatemala" is REM's first power ballad & it's a great one. Another ace bridge! that feedback blast on it is a hook, & then into a rare guitar solo. I'd kinda like to have heard more Mills vocal on it, maybe even a lead or a duet? Stipe hits a few too many drones that I think helixing with Mills could have cured or at least blurred.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe we'll hear more mills on the demos?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

true! I didn't find the Fables demos to be much of a revelation but tbh I only listened through once & anyway I like the murk of Boyd's production.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

ok I take that back, the demo of "Auctioneer" is really swell; it ends with Stipe saying "another...engine....another...engine" à la "Horses" & then someone yells really loudly & then it ends; really tense!

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

What is it with PSA? Surprised at it popping up here, I thought it was written around the time of Green, odd to be reiterating such an obvious lame duck.

the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

LRP's second side is weak in the songwriting dept - they didn't have enough songs, had to flesh out old 1980/01 live numbers. Disappointing given the first side is so cohesive. Would say the same for Document (ace first side) but I like the oddball stuff after the big hit - people obviously don't. But it was more interesting than LRP's.

Fables better the whole way through both albums.

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp
It sounds like "I Believe", so maybe it's a version of that? It also sounds like "It's the End of the World..." so I dunno.

Euler, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for this, as this is my favorite R.E.M. album by quite a ways. This was the one where I REALLY got them as a band. And if these songs benefit from the remastering as much "Fables" did, I'll probably listen to it exclusively for days on end. "Begin the Begin"/"These Days" is as good as it gets for a one-two punch in the whole R.E.M. catalog.

Captain Hyrax (Phil D.), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

That half acoustic, half electric thing they were after on Green should/could have been LRP - Guatemala, Swan, Fall on Me, Cuyahoga on one side and Begin the Begin, These Days on the other - problem is they didn't have enough examples of the latter and fleshed it out with light stuff like Superman/Bunker/JAT, which don't fit on the album IMO. Superman I love, but better as a standalone single.

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

"My picture that I have of us breaking up is that we'd do a couple of really bad records...and then we'd go to a Chinese restaurant and get drinks with umbrellas in them and say 'you know guys it's been a really haul but we just don't have it anymore', you know, and have a good toast and go home"

Peter Buck 1998.

piscesx, Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

How many bad records had they made at that point?

<- got off the bus with Out of Time

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

4

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just wanted to see Buck with the Baseball Project but he hurt his back and skipped a month of gigs.

So is Stipe gonna do an album with Patti Smith now that REM are broken up ?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

heard some REM news - yay

let me markers that for you http://tinyurl.com/6jdgf7f (cozen), Thursday, 22 September 2011 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

some dude, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait until you get the Bill Berry ''they've sucked the last decade'' interview now

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

album of the year?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 September 2011 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

when I heard this my first thought was 'but don't they have an album that is coming out pretty soon?" and then I remembered that it already came out, and I listened to it, and didn't remember anything about it. so I guess that says it all.

akm, Friday, 23 September 2011 05:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's good, i find myself whistling the beginning of "it happened today" quite a lot

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

hearing "blue" now as their "riders on the storm." what a great band

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 September 2011 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

do we think they knew it'd be the last album so threw their all into 'Collapse...' to go out with some dignity? i mean you know even the title suggests it.

piscesx, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

http://r-e-m-cycle.blogspot.com/

nate woolls, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spotify is crazy comprehensive on these guys now; all the recent IRS years 2 disc remasters are there and even UP which was weirdly missing on there for years.

piscesx, Thursday, 22 March 2012 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I don't which REM thread to put it on so I am putting a link to this nice live version of "Harborcoat" here
http://open.spotify.com/track/3xRaBjpIWB444tvpxAeP87

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

except for the harmonica solo

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:07 (2 years ago) Permalink


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