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xp yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.

Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

i knew a dude that went to this -- never heard of any of these "dubstep" artists

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

itt americans talk about dubstep :(

lex pretend, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

When local clubs around here started putting on dubstep nights is when I first realized "Okay they can't ALL be sitting around listening to Kode9."

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:21 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

hahahaha yes i remember in like 2006 i went to dubstep night at this club in austin and it was literally a bunch of ilxor-lookin-boys standing with their hands in the hoodie pockets and headphones around their necks nodding their heads sagely, then years later i realized there were like 5 dubsteps nights downtown now and that they couldn't all be ilxor lookin boys in hoodies not-dancing

HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.

― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark


dude i like dancing too

to all kinds of music

'pop music'
'club music'
'hippity-hop music'

but i would honestly rather dance to lady gaga than this shitty shitty shit

bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

(i don't like lady gaga very much and i think she is just okay for dancing to, if that wasn't clear)

bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

your hipness ranking was in jeopardy til you cleared that up

Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.
― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

i know it's ilx but it's not 2005

history mayne, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

so ive just listened to some of this bro step and its connection to the murky ilxorian dubstep is p clear

^ listening back through something like this ... the big-wobbly-bass thing around 0:40 is obviously what I'd think of as dubstep, but so much other stuff -- the electroish sound palette, the regularity of the beats -- always makes me think of it some other way. (informative thread! learning and whatnot!)

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah it basically takes those wobbly Joker-like bass drops that sounds great when you are stoned and drops them into Crystal Method-style big beat, makes sense that it would play well in a jam band-y festival kind of setting.

Mark, Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

also an important link in this whole dubstep discussion is probably study abroad programs

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

note I know nothing about dubstep but I see the word a lot on the internet

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

mac millar looks and sounds like he's missing at least a couple of important chromosomes, imo. like this is what happens when cousins marry, etc. fella is a walking, talking, mouth-breathing "whitest kids u know" sketch.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

when a form of "british bass music" crosses the atlantic, you it's entered some sort of mannerist, walking dead phase.

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http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hippie J0hn D. (Pillbox), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

hehe, i love those shirts.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

A few of my friends have been making fun of "dubstep" for maybe a year now and complaining about it being played in too many clubs. A few times I've gotten on a bit of a soapbox and scolded them for talking shit about a sub-genre that they clearly knew nothing about, since I'd never heard any kind of the post-burial stuff talked about on ilx in clubs. I just figured they heard a silly-sounding genre name and decided to pick on it and use it as a catch-all term for electronic music, sort of like the new "techno" or "electronica".

Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo

deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

i stumbled over that Salem album on my ipod before going on a run today, and gave it a listen cuz of this thread. it sucks.

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo

― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like the "mosh part" of anthrax songs :: NY hardcore

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

asked my 16-year-old Odd-Future listening son if he'd heard of rappers Mac Miller and Sam Adams mentioned upthread. He said he had--Miller he pronounced ok, Adams he said was terrible.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 March 2011 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

By coincidence an oar live thing was just on mhd.

I watched it. Pretty bad.

Also they have no connection to the dead or even wide spread. Not hippies.

Basically there are people for whom the first counting crows record is sgt peppers. Throw in a little dmb guitar center jackoffery and voila

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 23:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

just remembering that when I was at penn state for a summer like 8 years ago bros were listening to happy hardcore and sandstorm

brostep seems like a logical extension

dayo, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

people who're into Kanye are into the narrative of when he got good & does he keep getting better or when does he "start to suck," etc -- this narrative doesn't appeal to fans of the bands we're talking about; these bands consist largely of "players" (jazz dudes use this term just meaning "guys who can really play") who can hit a groove & hold it and that's not really something you lose if you're always out there, really you just keep getting better as long as your health holds. when you're a pop star your days are numbered. people who go see Ratdog in 2011 first saw Weir sing "Truckin'" in 1978.

― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:44 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this seems pretty otm to me - we ilxor-lookin dudes do love bands & artists whose story arcs parallel those whom we know and love

by the way, 200 posts and nobody's mentioned GIRL TALK yet

dayo, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

his popularity among ppl is kind of thoroughly distasteful to me

HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 March 2011 02:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

fyi mac miller's "all around the world" is produced by just blaze & includes a "SWAG" :-/

deej, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

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max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think this sort of is what this thread is getting at but "bros" are basically "hipsters" now, huh?

max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

its weird how all the unpopular kids in high school "won" but it turns out that winning just means that jocks dress like you and listen to the same music you do

max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

so many rappers/producers/ppl in the industry seem so damn desperate these days

deej, Monday, 14 March 2011 06:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

max otm — my pithy comment of choice for summing up this situation was "it turns out everyone and everything you run away from eventually follows you to the places you made cool"

hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 09:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^ this is why you keep running and how cool cycles imo

HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

"it turns out everyone and everything you run away from eventually follows you to the places you made cool"

have you... made internet message boards cool?

history mayne, Monday, 14 March 2011 12:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

well this was framed more in terms of cycles of gentrification and 'urban renewal' & shit, but i think it obviously applies metaphorically to certain aesthetic choices

not sure whether 'posting on an internet message board' is one of those choices tho

hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

number of college students posting on this thread and board is miniscule I am assuming (number of high school student likely even smaller)

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 March 2011 13:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait wait wait, from waaaaaay upthread: BRETT RATNER????

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Okay I'm glad YOU noticed that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw just for further context on the demographics in question: the highest-voted comment* on that skrillex vid nabisco posted yesterday was (paraphrasing from memory) "Skrillex, I'm taking you into custody... for causing the Japanese earthquakes!"

(not tryna be all cap'n-save-a-public-decency here, but i generally prefer my tasteless humor to be a bit more clever than "lol this bass kills ppl" (but then again, that comment was probably posted by a 15-year-old))

*: it has since dropped off the front page, replaced by

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hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/v/WSeNSzJ2-Jw&fs=1&hl=en

^ listening back through something like this ... the big-wobbly-bass thing around 0:40 is obviously what I'd think of as dubstep, but so much other stuff -- the electroish sound palette, the regularity of the beats -- always makes me think of it some other way. (informative thread! learning and whatnot!)

― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo

― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 4:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to me, tempo and beat-style is a more important connection between the different kinds of dubstep that we're talking about (compared to sound palette/LFO-based basslines). at this point anything hovering about 140 bpm is going to be called dubstep.

adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

like how anything around 120 with a four-on-the-floor kick is going to be talked about in terms of "house", whatever little subgenre it might occupy.

adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw this thread is totally otm about dubstep in the u.s.. i only became aware of it a few months ago...i mean, i consider myself a dude keeps up with electronic music, i've got a vested interest in it, but i live in a midwest college town and was like "who are these dudes (like skrillex) selling out large-to-huge venues here whose names i've never even heard?"

adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

does donal glover fit into this conversation in any way?

hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

the only person i know who listens to childish gambino praises him as the savior of "real rap" without having really listened to the genre. hates lil wayne too.

what was mike posner and kid cudi last year is mac miller and wiz khalifa this year. Fresh on Campus seems to be the go-to blog for this kind of crowd.

flow (chilli), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought the skrillex song was okay at first but I kind of hate how telegraphed the bass drop is, it's so functional

also it's probably shitty youtube qualiy but the mixing sounds like shit, all mid-high bass with no real bottom end - I'd have to listen to a HQ version to be sure, but it sounds like it was mixed to sound good on those cheap 400 watt computer speaker systems you can buy, which emphasize mid-bass

dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

so i guess this is like the frat version of "toot it & boot it"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw

yogi 37 up, 3 down
to have sex with a girl using no condom
I just hit a yogi last night

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

christ -- these dudes or dude or w/e are connected w/ ryan tedder (figures)

the singer on this one is the biggest doofus i've ever seen

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

can't believe "starting six" let the tiny dude into their group

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

it really undercuts the credibility of any song they do about sex

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

these are the types of dudes that end up on jezebel after a string of sexist emails gets leaked

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:13 (3 years ago) Permalink


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