the juke/bmore/bloghouse frankenstein dance music they play at clubs

ay this thread got good again

hows lol med school

sup joe, sup evan, sup jordan

lol finals next week :-/

but i'm killing time trying to play with traktor, hence my interest in quality jamz

have u heard this song called 'day and night (crookers remix)'? what do you think

and a lot of dance music is pretty intensely emotional and weird then theres shit like this thats jut lol dancing right

this stuff seems to be positioned against the intensely emotional and weird, and that's part of the appeal, isn't it? one is not supposed to give a fuck about anything. big beat looks like the progenitor, but instead of the drunken hooligan vibe it's more like ADHD carelessness

wiat that's the one with the guy in the convenience store with the babes

only on a purely aesthetic level though, which is the point i didnt make well.

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well, i don't know what "a purely aesthetic level" is or would be like ... but i think the sense i get is that these guys have absorbed the dogma that what's thrilling about pop music is a lack of pretension, tossed-off-ness, not caring about rules, the right to be trashy, the ephemeral-ness of it, etc etc

it sort of sounds to me like they read a simon reynolds article on the greatness of early rave music and decided to build on that, almost by intentionally making all of the "bad taste" mistakes they can

i'm thinking specifically of, like, jokers of the scene and so on when i write this.

punk has a lot to answer for imo

yeah and a lot of this stuff has day glo aesthetics straight from the post-JW noise scene

not a coincidence that people listen to this stuff also listen to like, crystal castles and whatnot

pretty cool that this scene has made making shitty music a really truly democratic thing -- cant really blame patriarchy or racism as this stuff is being embraced across the spectrum

there are so many dj's all of the sudden

post-JW noise scene?

i like day glo!

noise scene way down hill after jw died ;_;

wait so was he really banned? i guess i haven't been paying attn

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it sort of sounds to me like they read a simon reynolds article on the greatness of early rave music and decided to build on that, almost by intentionally making all of the "bad taste" mistakes they can

but rave's committment and sense of mission looks almost bolshevik compared to the attitude here

i've been to a couple of nights like this and by far the best thing i heard was "energy flash" into "the rhythm of the night." it was pretty intensely emotional and weird to me.

big beat looks like the progenitor, but instead of the drunken hooligan vibe it's more like ADHD carelessness

reading this thread actually makes me remember a little essay I tried to write in 1996 or really early 1997 about how 90% of jungle was crap because most folks making it only knew how to do one thing with the sampler and weren't interested in any of the other possibilities

which you can kind of say the same thing for tons of genres all the way back to jazz and rock & roll, these musics are ostensibly about seeking out and experimenting with the new, not ripping off DJ Elin's trashy autorepeat idea a decade late and with nothing else to show

^^^ cred points added for mentioning auto repeat

^^^ cred points deducted for not calling them "CHEAP" ideas

if this were 1992 we could be having this argument on a BBS about how all these kids with their mod trackers were not getting the point of industrial

if this were 1992 everything would be more authentic

lol handbag

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I am trying to picture the target audience and setting for this stuff in Chicago. What kind of crowds and clubs is this music being consumed in?

the wrath of the math

I kinda want to make an excel graph plotting the decline of realness over time against world population growth and increase in average annual temperature

I am trying to picture the target audience. . . for this stuff in Chicago.

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there are some clubs im sure where its pretty much all that gets played -- like debonair or wherever. but u hear it in all kinds of places -- i think the core audience is DJs and ppl who are like real into the scene. but djs who spin it get good reviews in the reader all the time, and they play it at mainstream-ish lincoln-park-in-wicker-park places like empire liquors, evil olive which gets a pretty diverse crowd, sonotheque, bettys blue star lounge, and of course a gang of different smaller bars like tumans etc ... about the only clubs that i havent heard it in are places like tini martini or dvine which are older-skewing mostly black clubs, and the mexican bars.

im not real familiar w/ the glossier trance clubs.

i think the one relatively diverse scene that doesnt really break this way (if it can avoid it) is straight up house music places like zentra

altho the gayer it gets the MORE it prob skews this way -- i havent been to berlin in awhile but that place was already pretty electro/hipster-y in its music choices when i was there last -- except on prince nite which was X^D

(sorry about the chicagocentric posts but he asked)

late to party but

and this isnt some lol im old bullshit i dont think

everybody says this at first LOL

i still like lots of new music tho -- im bumping the new plies today B-D

Funny thing for me is that this is just about the only way I keep up with popular music.

Otherwise I'd just listen to disco and soft rock all the time.

I'm 24 and this music makes sense to me, but the demographic it attracts makes me feel ancient.

I had a 17 year old tell me that I was the best DJ he'd ever seen in his life, the really sad thing is that it was probably true. He was a small town kid, probably has only seen me and maybe one or two other DJs ever. Maybe he was just really high, I don't know.

I don't have a radio in my car and I don't listen to one at work.

Don't spend much time at stores, so I'm almost completely insulated from pop.

Except for remixes.

my main problem with this kind of music

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fitted caps or los angeles celbculture influence

Aoki does bring out a snarl from me, he and all of the Roxy Cottontail set.

Makes me remember why I hated Vice for so long.

If we're hating on white kids making shitty Baltimore tracks, well I can't really hate. At least they've got some enthusiasm, as opposed to this smug cokehead vibe I get off the LA people.

i actually don't know what this thread is about anymore

enthusiastic white kids with laptops and headphones

also the ipod earbud and 192k VBR as the be-all end-all of sound, do we already have a thread on that?

lets pretend that we do

enthusiastic white kids with laptops and headphones

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see but its not just white kids -- thats more what this thread is about. equal opportunity to be shitty

If I have some audio technica ad700 and many mp3s ripped at 320k, though guilty of being a white girl with a laptop, am I still killing music?

This thread leaves me very concerned.

i dont know what song are u playing

some bloghouse and madonna

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