Katy B - On A Mission (4 April 2011) - hype, anticipation &c

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No, but it does have a long list of thank yous at the end of the last track, which is quite endearing even though I never want to hear again.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

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Haha, I'm yet to delve that deep. But there is a song about getting chatted up in a bar followed by a fairly reasonable shopping list detailing what she looks for in a lad.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost endearing was the word I was looking for, thanks DL.

(PS I sometimes think your posts are my posts and it gets kinda confuse)

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh damn, I didn't think about that when I picked a new display name.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

But there is a song about getting chatted up in a bar followed by a fairly reasonable shopping list detailing what she looks for in a lad.

starting to sound like the street/danceable kate nash ppl on here were talking about last year.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

If kate nash wasn't so risible people would make that comparison much more than they do.

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

still need to hear this album

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link

(PS I sometimes think your posts are my posts and it gets kinda confuse)

lol

(took me a couple of days after DL's name change to figure out why he didn't sound like dog latin)

blud money (sic), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

who is DL originally btw? I can never keep track of name changes on here. Even that thread supposedly explaining them all is like a labyrinth.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I was Dorianlynskey and then I got increasingly tired of seeing my real name on screen but have never been one for online aliases so I went for the prosaic and (ha) unconfusing DL.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i didnt know it was you.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Really? I forgot to apply my new password to my laptop so I think there are some threads where I'm commenting first as DL, then as my real name, and then as DL again. Internet anonymity is wasted on me.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xposts ah right, it all makes sense now :-)

I've been wanting to ditch the "dog latin" name for ages now. It's a handle I threw together when I first started using the Warp Records messageboard back in 1999 and it just stuck with me. I still use it when I DJ, yet it's one of the uncoolest DJ names I can possibly think of.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

why is there a song tagged "witches brew" on the katy b album. seriously. is that a brew made up of witches? is it a brew belonging to witches, plural, in which case where is the apostrophe? is it a brew belonging to one witch? if so that grammatical disaster may cause me to go on a rampage. THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT BOTHERS ME.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The witches are brewing, it's a verb.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Also yeah Miles Davis.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

hang on i never noticed that about the miles davis album before - it IS meant to be "brew" as in a verb there, right? or a brew made up of bitches? right? right?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think i can cope otherwise

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont think he was saying bitches like to heat things up from time to time. its meant to be bitches' brew.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

you should prob stay away from urban music. rap esp. you might hurt yourself.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont think he was saying bitches like to heat things up from time to time. its meant to be bitches' brew.

whyyyyyyyyy has this been permitted to happen, why in nearly half a century did no one think to step in and quietly add the necessary apostrophe???

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

an apostrophe would look unsightly.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate the world

lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Lex I really liked your FACT review of the album - struck the right tone between setting Katy up as standing for a concept in dance/pop music and but also letting her just stand for and as herself (though maybe this is tautological insofar as the latter is also exactly what she stands for).

Tim F, Saturday, 19 March 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks!

it really struck me as i was relistening to the album - which is vv good indeed, and gets even better on repeated listenings, though i think the lightness (and housiness) of the beats has thrown a few people - how singular a figure in pop katy b is. i feel like i go on about this a lot - the best way to essay an underground/mainstream crossover, or to erode the boundaries between them (which is what katy says she wants to do), or just to help underground ideas become part of mainstream pop, is with this kind of identifiable feminine frontperson - it's frustrating that british dance music has been written about in such a tediously blokey way for the past decade plus, given that its form is so conducive to this.

lex pretend, Saturday, 19 March 2011 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway my favourite non-singles here are "power on me", "witches' brew" (it has the apostrophe on the actual cover SO RELIEVED), "easy please me" and "hard to get" - can't believe they've actually done the hidden track thing in the itunes age though smh (it's really good though)

lex pretend, Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago) link

'Easy Please Me' is the most interesting track on here as far as I can tell. On one hand it's kind of a Lily Allen/Streets-style diary entry about a night out - a device she doesn't tend to rely on too heavily on other tracks - but it also says the most about Katy B as a person.

The album might inhabit a twilit world of clubs and bars, but I couldn't imagine Katy stumbling out of Funky Buddha, flashing her bits at the paparazzi before stumbling into a cab with a premiership footballer. That's not her style, she's much more guarded and self-aware than that, coming off all the better for it in the process. No wonder she seems to get approached so often - she's a popstar with humility, the kind of girl you'd happily take home to your mum for tea and then go raving with all night.

So while she's out to have a good time, she's very much aware of the people around her. She has a kind of passiveness in wanting to please others but really wishes to find the one true person she can help to please. But until then she's politely fending off suitors, with maybe the odd polite flirtation here and there. And this is reflected in the way she approaches her music - not tying herself to any particular genre yet still embracing each one in the same genuine and endearing way. She's as comfortable with the underground as with the mainstream, like so many mumsy teatimes and all night raves.

And don't you just love the internal rhyme of "I was at a bar with my friend Olivia"? Also love those dubby synth sounds that come in during the chorus.

farielan chosder bout a chagh an i ballme trantuming (dog latin), Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah Lex, I just read your review. Really nice!

farielan chosder bout a chagh an i ballme trantuming (dog latin), Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

i love that she's spent the past few days bigging up teedra moses on twitter - seen so many retweets of people just discovering teedra b/c of katy <3

lex pretend, Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link

oh no i think she did it on some radio show - it's teedra who's been retweeting everything lol

lex pretend, Saturday, 19 March 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link

well she brought up teedra in this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqk7VtUfofg

and now she's repping her on the radio as well? god i love this woman

uberweiss, Saturday, 19 March 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

it's frustrating that british dance music has been written about in such a tediously blokey way for the past decade plus, given that its form is so conducive to this

I think British dance music, post-92 at least, has *always* been written about in a tediously blokey way - female vocalists appear all over the place but they're usually a front for the producers even when they make the whole song (Exhibit A being Shara Nelson on Unfinished Sympathy obviously). 2-step is a bit of an outlier in that respect but even that threw up fewer durable pop stars than one would expect.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 March 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Lex I really liked your FACT review of the album - struck the right tone between setting Katy up as standing for a concept in dance/pop music and but also letting her just stand for and as herself

cosign, really good review lex (just got the FACT email newsletter, read it, thought "oh cool great review!" then noticed yr name at the botton after i'd read the entire thing-- go figure!)

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

bottom* obv

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y12kbjyqJ0M

bangin' band behind her there

abcfsk, Saturday, 26 March 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

kris menace isn't even french (sic), Sunday, 27 March 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Random Thoughts:

a-*This album is like a rundown of every dance electronic genre of the past decade or so.

God she has a sexy voice. Can I have a crush on a girl even though I'm gay? (thinks for a second) Yeah sure why not?

She really does play hard to get. She never sings a song on what specifics traits she likes in a guy. She keeps that information to herself. Shes both warm and aloof at the same time.

"Why You Always Here?" is the best fuck off song I've heard since the late 90s Scrub/Bills Bills Bills era.

Why the fuck Louder isn't on this album?

Please don't come to the USA and go r&b. That's how Craig David ruined himself.

She never sings a song on what specifics traits she likes in a guy

ha, until "easy please me" when she tells you all of them!

def one of those albums that gets even better w/repeated listens - seriously impressed by it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

vg interview - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/mar/29/katy-b?CMP=twt_gu

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I wanted to like this more than I do, but I've only listened through one time. It leans a little "clubby" for my usual tastes, but I'm willing to give it a fair shake.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link

def one of those albums that gets even better w/repeated listens - seriously impressed by it

In that case, wow, because I'm on my first play and I already think it's going to rival PJ Harvey for my album of the year. This feels like the big overground moment British dance music's been leading up to for years and I'm glad it's come in the form of such a likeable pop star. Seems such an obvious blueprint that I can't believe UK vocalists haven't been making albums like this for years.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Aside from the ones I'd already heard last year, "Movement" is the only track that's jumping out at me. I need to give this some more listens though. Given my usual listening habits, it's probably more of a surprise I like any of this. (Also, I've kind of shifted back to mostly listening to Latin music at the moment.)

degrading the enemy narrative (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

no issues with this album whatsoever, it's ace. egg & chips on fine china.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

no boy is on a level believe me

(aoty)

uberweiss, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

'Go Away' is the real stunner for me so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

pardon my phallocentrism for saying so but from the origin seed of his and hers 'good life' cover geeneus has done just a beautifully well-judged job here - articulating katy's early sugababesness through a low-key nostalgic chart house prism is as rewarding on a dreary tuesday in the office as it is in evening glamour.

(course, it still would have been a nice evocative touch to have had the bassier, more propulsive og 'lights on' on the single as a club mix. he was wise to change it in the first place though.)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

btw lex fwiw that is your best ever rvw imo

i was so certain you'd go overboard on the €om£dy mi$andry too but no!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

also

female vocalists appear all over the place but they're usually a front for the producers even when they make the whole song (Exhibit A being Shara Nelson on Unfinished Sympathy obviously). 2-step is a bit of an outlier in that respect but even that threw up fewer durable pop stars than one would expect.

― Matt DC, Monday, 21 March 2011 13:00 (1 week ago) Bookmark

there is something about this mode of things i think is very fruitful and feel quite protective of but find very hard to put across successfully. certainly i don't believe it to automatically evidence any paternalistic despotism or whatever; in some mysterious way even it seems almost less cynical than the american model sometimes.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

early sugababesness yes! i did think that but iirc it was 3am at the time and i second-guessed myself by thinking it was just her gingerness leading me on.

(and thanks!)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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