"Boyz" might be my fave song by anyone this year
― Dominique, Friday, 3 August 2007 04:42 (7 years ago) Permalink
does this one also sound like it was made on mario paint?
― Richard Wood Johnson, Friday, 3 August 2007 04:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
i really like this.
that's all for now.
― s1ocki, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:16 (7 years ago) Permalink
The best things about Boyz are a) the cheering and the crowd clapping and the fanfares that accompany it and b) the fact that it comes straight after Bamboo Banga and Bird Flu and the cumulative effect is this constant ramping up of deafening drums.
I'm sold on all of this now except for Mango Pickle Down River, and Hussel isn't great, especially Afrika Man's verse. Although the bit when they loop his "you think this is hard, come to Africa" line and there's this enormous bass synth stab absolutely rules.
Also "when I'm dogging on the bonnet of your bright red Honda" WTF?!
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:22 (7 years ago) Permalink
WAIT I GET IT "DICK" "WOOD" "JOHNSON"
― max, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:22 (7 years ago) Permalink
I used to know a guy called R1ch4rd Fa11as actually. Oh the hilarity that caused when we were 15.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
What do we think of "Down River"/"World Town"(?)/"Bucky Done Gun v2"? I think it rivals Boyz for the best song on the album...
― Stevie D, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:31 (7 years ago) Permalink
sort of what matt dc said, except i was never blown away by arular, and i'm loving most of this. jonathan richman shout out is crazy way to open an album - wonder if Radio 1 will get this made into an updated jingle based on the original :-) :-)
Jimmy and Paper Planes,plus all the stuff i've already heard (XR2, Boyz, already featured on FT podcast, yay) instantly lovable. others are a bit hrm so far. the mango pickle one sounds like an extended skit off a DJ Yoda mix. which, to me, is a good thing.
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:34 (7 years ago) Permalink
i cant believe more people aren't loving $20
― max, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
Boyz would sound so great on a street carnival sound system.
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:36 (7 years ago) Permalink
$20 is the blue monday one. mix this into Rihanna shut up and drive plz kthx
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 08:37 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― naus, Friday, 3 August 2007 09:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
agree with matt dc and tim f. OTM etc. still like this album though. ive only heard it once though in case i start to dislike it. i need to love one new album this year. dont ruin it for me.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 3 August 2007 10:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
$20 is awesome as well. I love the vocoder on her voice that alternately makes her sound like Cher doing Believe and a roaring robotic dinosaur.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 10:41 (7 years ago) Permalink
Paper Planes = track most likely to be covered by Lily Allen this year.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 10:42 (7 years ago) Permalink
oh dear... i'm sure i'll regret posting this, but upon marianna's encouragement, this is a drunken email i sent last night about kala:
well, having listened to the MIA album a couple times now, i have to say that i am so appalled by how bad it is, that i wondered if it was even the 'real' album, or someone having a laugh, doing a 'mock' MIA album.
**WARNING - GRUMPY OLD MAN RANT ALERT**
this could be the most asinine, amateurish, worthless recording i have heard in a long time. and i used to listen to trance music! seriously - her "lyrics" are embarrassingly childish and stupid. maybe that was intentional, but come ON! i honestly suspect that she was simply making up words on the fly, just rambling about random things that rhymed. it reminds me of when me and my friends were about 8 years old and we had one of those tape recorder things, and we would just spout whatever words we could string together. needless to say, she has about as much talent in this regard as the average 8 year old - and that might be giving her too much credit. and her singing/MCing everything in that monotone is incredibly tiresome. about the only thing i like is some of the production and background beats, but even those are just re-purposed from the freestyle stuff of the early 80s. what i find most worrisome is the fact that hapless journo hacks will probably laud this as some sort of watershed recording of british music - a great leap forward by an 'adventurous' artist, blah blah blah. then again, these are the same people that think radiohead are geniuses, and they stopped making decent 'music' after 'the bends'. jesus, wake me when it's over.
― Rob Bolton, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:39 (7 years ago) Permalink
wow. i really went off. and upon reflection, i realize that i am a 'hapless journo hack' who gave OK computer a good review. ouch.
― Rob Bolton, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:42 (7 years ago) Permalink
i'm baffled and disappointed by your reaction to this music, Sir.
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:56 (7 years ago) Permalink
MIA really is the most exciting artist in British music right now tho. We're sorry...
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:57 (7 years ago) Permalink
i'm actually a bit baffled by my email too!
hey, at least you've got MIA. we've got nickelback :/
― Rob Bolton, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:58 (7 years ago) Permalink
What part of her or her music is British then? (xpost) (oh, the label, is that it?)
― StanM, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:58 (7 years ago) Permalink
What part of her or her music is British then?
that's not what i said
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:01 (7 years ago) Permalink
altho her basslines never shut up about house prices, chavs and putting the kettle on
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:03 (7 years ago) Permalink
This sounded FANTASTIC at first... probably because her vocals & patois stylings are a BIT more tolerable this time, where Arular was sickeningly, obviously so lightweight and all up-in-your-face without ANY of the wallop or weight to make that approach WORK.
Kala is going for something far more low-down, grooves that are insistent and squirmy but still bang, musically it's SO much more interesting that it's just in a different league. Production wise, it's full of surprises, energy, immediacy and feels like a really unique and effective fusion.
BUT 4,5 listens in, the cracks are starting to show big time and I'm getting annoyed at her too-frequent inability write a song that doesn't evaporate from memory the minute you turn the stereo off. Boyz is a particularly acute example here.
I feel like MIA is absolutely perfect for people who prefer their pop/dance to consist of NOTHING BUT transient thrills and explosions (hi dere ILM!), who can find "massive pop hooks" in anything, however empty & hollow it might be ... and kind of useless if you like anything more solid, especially lyrically.
All of which is a bit unfair, as she's made GIANT steps forward here in packing memorable moments into her stuff, enough that I can understand the excitement she generates a bit better now... but honestly... overrated much?????
mind you "most exciting artist in British music" not saying much looking at the competition so maybe she is :p
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
you're saying Boyz is forgettable??? or the exception to that?
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:47 (7 years ago) Permalink
People who diss post-Bends Radiohead are not to be trusted, even when I think I might agree with them.
― HI DERE, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:56 (7 years ago) Permalink
I'm saying, like SO much of her stuff, it kind of has half a tune, not much of a chorus/hook/song... and then the rest of it... I think I must be hearing her wrong because the rest just feels like load of noise & effects hanging around to disguise what's missing. Doesn't really work for me, soz.
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:58 (7 years ago) Permalink
i'll convert you to this like i did The Knife
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 13:59 (7 years ago) Permalink
Geesh, fandango, is it necessary for you to come into every M.I.A. thread and bitch about how "overrated and shallow" her music is? And you're so condescending about it as well, I happen to quite like her lyrics. And "Boy" is pretty much all hook, so I don't get where you're coming from there either...
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:05 (7 years ago) Permalink
The Knife was a grower, this is sounding like an anti-grower...
but I do like it a lot more than her first, faults and all.
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:06 (7 years ago) Permalink
woah there! I've hardly said shit on ILM's MIA threads before now, and about condescending... I've got some way to go before I catch up with others here imo. I actually started posting on this one because I was honestly surprised how rad this seemed the first few spins... ok, now I'm not so sure, but I'm just going with the flow like everyone else seeing as it only just leaked... fucks sake.
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:11 (7 years ago) Permalink
I wonder how shallow a song called 'Boyz' would possibly have to be to be 'too shallow'.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:12 (7 years ago) Permalink
fandango, is your plan to become completely disillusioned with this album by the official August 20th release date? you're making good time!
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:13 (7 years ago) Permalink
xpost: I post on another board that you do (the Bjork 4um), it's just something I noticed... it's like M.I.A. brings out the troll in you or something...
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:14 (7 years ago) Permalink
ha! I'm not trolling honestly! not especially eloquent unfortunately but... yeah, I find her problematic, and it kind of sours her music, there's just an aftertaste... hell, I'm hardly the only one, but at least this time, I'm undeniably impressed on some levels... isn't that good enough?
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:20 (7 years ago) Permalink
matt dc, you're redirecting something I said broadly onto a specific example which isn't what I really intended to say (about that one song).
and yeah, ILM -loves- these kind of "all hook" records, where I often find them flat (for all the effort) and ultimately sorta boring but I'm kind of resigned to that.
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:23 (7 years ago) Permalink
also, I'm not sure if I'm being condescending towards MIA or other ILM-ers, okay "overrated" I guess is a crit. of others so fair enough, perhaps it's just my reaction to the entire internet throwing me daggers when I dare to say she sucks at some things, but shallow, well that's just my feeling and I'm allowed to say it!
ABout Björk (see also upthread) the sad thing is I actually agree that this is musically, just the kind of genreless, fresh, enervating excitement I was hoping for from her new (and unusually dissapointing, for me) one :(
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:32 (7 years ago) Permalink
Yeah I know, I was just sort of amused by the concept.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:41 (7 years ago) Permalink
still sounding fantastic ten or so listens in - i never really liked arular like that much (at least in comparison to piracy funds terrorism), and didn't have high expectations for this, so it's great that it's turning out to be my pop album of the year so far. really looking forward to seeing her live again.
i can't believe that $20 doesn't piss me off - bootlegs in 2007? - but i guess it's just weird enough to work.
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:47 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― J0hn D., Friday, 3 August 2007 14:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
xpost matt dc - heh :)
that dogging line is hilarious btw, she's got some really funny lines but for some reason I never seem to pick up on them IN the songs (unlike say, Missy) which might be why she sometimes comes across as a lot more academic than she should... also BAD hangover fwiw so apologies if I'm being particularly unpolite & harsh... typing rubbish to the interweb about all I'm good for today :x
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
The Bends is shit
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:15 (7 years ago) Permalink
half of the bends is shit.
'watching lost on cable'
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:16 (7 years ago) Permalink
i can't believe that $20 doesn't piss me off - bootlegs in 2007?
wha? how is $20 a bootleg? it's only a bassline lift, not even a sample!
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:17 (7 years ago) Permalink
blue monday + where is my mind = bootleg.
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:18 (7 years ago) Permalink
i think i like the slower songs better. eerier.
― strongohulkington, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:19 (7 years ago) Permalink
bury her vocals further in the mix.
maybe i just want an instrumental mix.
i don't know the 'where is my mind' thing. but it's hardly a bootleg cf rap music
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:22 (7 years ago) Permalink
the final (timbaland) track is growing on me
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink
? what about rap music? she sings an entire verse + chorus of where is my mind, it's most of the lyrics to her song!
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:24 (7 years ago) Permalink